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This government don’t give a shit about schools or your kids

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noblegiraffe · 20/08/2020 19:11

AIBU to think that the government have fucked up literally everything to do with schools and education this year?

Evidence:

Chaotic school closures and keyworker provision (couldn’t decide what a keyworker was until the very last minute)

Forgot that kids on free school meals would go hungry so heads had to go round delivering sandwiches while the DfE put together an utterly shambolic voucher system that crashed and was pretty unusable.

Issued no guidelines for minimum education requirements during lockdown leading to vastly different provision between schools. Even Ofsted said they couldn’t judge schools on lockdown provision as there were no standards to judge them against.

Had to be shamed into u-turning on their insistence that free school meal children should go hungry during the holidays by a celebrity footballer (well done Marcus Rashford you absolute star)

Fed stories to friendly newspapers about schools re-opening in May to judge public reaction, leading to anxiety and uncertainty among parents and school staff

Announced that primary schools would open to all pupils before the summer holidays, an announcement that had surely not been run past anyone who worked in schools given that under the government’s own guidelines for schools for bubbles of 15 and no rotas, this would require double the classrooms and double the teachers available. Then backtracked on this a few weeks later (getting the friendly press to blame the unions) again creating uncertainty, anxiety and disappointment for parents and pupils.

Ignored education select committee questions about Ofqual’s algorithm when they raised issues in July

Lied and said they didn’t have early access to the data from Ofqual’s algorithm

When Scotland u-turned on their use of an algorithm, instead of making a considered response, came out with the bizarre notion that kids could use their mock grades - a suggestion that had obviously never been put past anyone who worked in schools. Again.

Took 5 days to realise that their mock suggestion created more problems than it solved, then u-turned on awarding CAGs creating problems for Y12 next year.

Fed stories to the friendly press that the unions are blocking the re-opening of schools in September so if it goes tits-up, they can blame them again (unions are asking for a ‘plan B’ in the case of local lockdowns, and for working conditions comparable to those of all other workers, no strike action has been proposed or balloted for so they couldn’t block re-opening even if they wanted to)

Blamed Ofqual for the algorithm they were told to create (prioritising statistics over teacher assessment)

Branded a teacher payrise that was agreed back in January a ‘reward for work during lockdown’, knowing this was incorrect, and deliberately fuelling outrage that they themselves had caused by having no minimum requirements for education in lockdown leading to vastly different provision.

Not funding this payrise so teachers probably won’t get it as otherwise it will lead to redundancies for other staff members due to having to fund it from already dire staffing budgets.

Issued guidelines that said that schools should reopen with increased cleaning schedules, increased handwashing, hand sanitising but providing no extra funding for this.

Instructed heads not to take any measures that would improve safety but would require more space (e.g. use of village halls) or not have pupils in full time (rotas, staggered timetables).

Didn’t realise that kids wouldn’t be able to get to school on public transport under current social distancing requirements as there aren’t enough buses until three weeks before schools reopened, and decided to throw £40 million to LAs to sort this (what? buy more buses?) so that they could blame the LAs when it inevitably goes wrong and kids can’t get to school.

And these are the people currently running a campaign to convince parents that they are capable of re-opening schools safely.

YABU: I have full confidence in the government and am perfectly happy with how things have gone so far

YANBU: It is mind-boggling how incompetent they have been, and how little thought they have given to the education of the nation’s children.

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Clavinova · 24/08/2020 12:21

ChavvySexPond

New funding for school transport here -

8th August;
"Multi-million-pound funding package for school transport."
"New funding for local authorities to ease pressure on public transport as children return in September."

www.gov.uk/government/news/multi-million-pound-funding-package-for-school-transport

Prestel · 24/08/2020 12:39

Does anyone know what is happening with the results for the home schooled students?

Was this answered at any point? DS was seriously ill in year 11 and missed some mocks and work. Was given grades for most subjects but nothing for French ( "insufficient evidence" according to the school, though some other schools have given grades on far less completed work as far as I can tell, so feels a bit harsh). I asked if he could resit in November but was curtly told no, you can't resit an exam you didn't get a grade for. This seems really tough and unfair on all those students who have missed mocks and stuff because they were ill and weren't able to get CAGs submitted. Does anyone know if it's true or if the school are wrong and he should be allowed to sit his missing exam in November?

Clavinova · 24/08/2020 12:47

Prestel

Suggests he can sit the exam in November here;

"Ofqual and the exam boards have explored the options for those students who do not have an existing relationship with an exam centre and who need results this summer for progression purposes. The Joint Council for Qualifications published guidance for exam centres on accepting private candidates which set out the options that would be available. Unfortunately, not all external candidates will be able to be awarded a calculated grade this summer because some will not have been in a position to provide sufficient evidence to enable their exam centre to include them in their centre assessment grades and rankings. Students in this position will need to sit exams to get their grades, either in the autumn or in summer 2021."

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-cancellation-of-gcses-as-and-a-levels-in-2020/coronavirus-covid-19-cancellation-of-gcses-as-and-a-levels-in-2020

cantkeepawayforever · 24/08/2020 13:04

[quote Clavinova]ChavvySexPond

New funding for school transport here -

8th August;
"Multi-million-pound funding package for school transport."
"New funding for local authorities to ease pressure on public transport as children return in September."

www.gov.uk/government/news/multi-million-pound-funding-package-for-school-transport[/quote]
The difficulty with this is the scale of what would be needed, the timing, and its availability.

DD catches the bus to school. It is a school double decker, rammed full. To allow for the same occupancy as is considered safe for 'ordinary' buses, it would need to be replaced by 3-4 buses of this size - and I know for a fact that the company that runs the bus (the only local bus company that has double deckers) does not have 3-4 extra for every route, especially not when each would only be required for a couple of hours each day and then be idle (and expesive to garage) the rest of the time.

Not to mention the less than 1 month timescale...

It's like the 'use community spaces' - capacity constraints, and the cost of creating that capacity, are prohibitive, and if this is a genuine solution, it should have been announced in early July at the latest.

WhyNotMe40 · 24/08/2020 13:23

The shambolic DFE should have been listening to headteachers over all these various issues. But through arrogance they thought they knew better. Then one day its "oh shit, the buses!" Hmm

ChavvySexPond · 24/08/2020 13:37

[quote Clavinova]ChavvySexPond

New funding for school transport here -

8th August;
"Multi-million-pound funding package for school transport."
"New funding for local authorities to ease pressure on public transport as children return in September."

www.gov.uk/government/news/multi-million-pound-funding-package-for-school-transport[/quote]
Well ours go back in 8 days and as far as I can discover it's still "get on a poorly ventilated, rammed bus with the general public in rush hour" in the mornings and "get on a poorly ventilated slightly less rammed bus full of old people" in the afternoons.

ChavvySexPond · 24/08/2020 13:38

@WhyNotMe40

The shambolic DFE should have been listening to headteachers over all these various issues. But through arrogance they thought they knew better. Then one day its "oh shit, the buses!" Hmm
And how much money is that, per school, per day? Tuppence?
Jux · 24/08/2020 13:40

Bliar wanted a better educated population (well, he said he did); this lot have realised that a better educated population are less obedient and have ideas and get cross about their masters and the deeds they do.

Therefore,, this shower want an less educated population and COVID is helping them achieve that.

ChavvySexPond · 24/08/2020 13:43

@Peregrina

We probably all know people a bit like Boris, bright but lazy and have never had to try too hard.
Both he and Cummings have coasted by on "Bullshit Baffles Brains" so far.

But bullshit doesn't count for anything when you have real responsibilities.

I'll never forget Cumming's wife Mary Wakefield saying that he was "kind" to come home from work for a while when she told him she was too ill to look after their toddler. That's not "kind" it's his responsibility to his family.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 24/08/2020 13:44

@Peregrina

We probably all know people a bit like Boris, bright but lazy and have never had to try too hard.
Amazing how many of them made it into politics or work for government departments
Prestel · 24/08/2020 13:45

Thanks Clavinova

Although I'm not sure if that means he can take the exam in November or not. It doesn't actually say anything about students who aren't private entrants who didn't have a CAG provided by their school. He was ill during mocks but the school graded him for his other exams. I've asked why they couldn't do French but haven't had an answer. I fear it's a case of a school being able to choose not to enter a student for some exams and there's not a lot we can do about it now, after the fact.

BubblyBluePebbles · 24/08/2020 13:52

Agreed that Boris has no empathy. He's a narcissist, like Cummings and the rest of their cronies.

noblegiraffe · 24/08/2020 14:01

[quote Clavinova]ChavvySexPond

New funding for school transport here -

8th August;
"Multi-million-pound funding package for school transport."
"New funding for local authorities to ease pressure on public transport as children return in September."

www.gov.uk/government/news/multi-million-pound-funding-package-for-school-transport[/quote]
That was fuck-up number 28 on my list, Clav - you should give it another read.

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BubblyBluePebbles · 24/08/2020 14:04

I'd love to send our two primary school aged kids back to school in a few weeks, but just can't see it happening.
2/3 months ago, we already resigned ourselves to the fact that we may be continuing to both WFH and homeschool for the foreseeable future.

There is still no logical plan. The Tories don't give a shit about anyone else except themselves.

ChavvySexPond · 24/08/2020 14:04

The 40 million for school transport... it's about a tenner per day per school isn't it?

ChavvySexPond · 24/08/2020 14:19

OH has pointed out that most nurseries and primaries don't have kids coming in on the bus so it's just secondary schools and VIth forms.

Which means that it's just under £48 per school per day. I'm sure you can hire LOADS of buses for that. Hmm

itsgettingweird · 24/08/2020 14:37

@Jux

Bliar wanted a better educated population (well, he said he did); this lot have realised that a better educated population are less obedient and have ideas and get cross about their masters and the deeds they do.

Therefore,, this shower want an less educated population and COVID is helping them achieve that.

You maybe right there.

There demonisation of unions certainly hints to that.

They certainly seem to think "how dare they" when people ask for better conditions of work.

Danglingmod · 24/08/2020 14:37

I've already posted this before : according to my LEA, they'd need £38m pa to provide socially distanced transport. So the amount allocated by the govt for the whole country will cover one county. Good oh.

itsgettingweird · 24/08/2020 14:39

Their even.

Talking about educated and I feck up my grammar 🤦🏼‍♀️🤣

latticechaos · 24/08/2020 14:39

@Danglingmod

I've already posted this before : according to my LEA, they'd need £38m pa to provide socially distanced transport. So the amount allocated by the govt for the whole country will cover one county. Good oh.
It is so draining. Constant bullshit announcements about too little money and too little action.
Notfeelinggreattoday · 24/08/2020 14:46

Could you all of done better ?
Its a pandemic , something we haven't had to deal with in modern times
Yes they have got things wrong but also got some things right like furlough etc

Notfeelinggreattoday · 24/08/2020 14:48

My schools has got and given out laptops etc and labour support opening of schools wtc

spanieleyes · 24/08/2020 14:48

What, to do with schools and education, have they got right? Name just ONE thing because for the life of me, I can't!

spanieleyes · 24/08/2020 14:54

We were given three laptops, they arrived after school had closed for the summer holiday.

itsgettingweird · 24/08/2020 14:58

@Notfeelinggreattoday

Could you all of done better ? Its a pandemic , something we haven't had to deal with in modern times Yes they have got things wrong but also got some things right like furlough etc
I'm sure most people could do better than nothing.

They've set a low bar Wink