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AIBU to still be shitting myself over the GCSE grades tomorrow

186 replies

Lowhangingfruit · 19/08/2020 16:04

According to the radio 4 show "More or less" this morning some students might not get they're teacher predicted grade. As there's another assessment I'm distraught. I have so much pinning on this tomorrow :-(

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namesnamesnamesnames · 19/08/2020 17:47

@Lowhangingfruit I'm waiting for mine also and it's very important I pass. I hate that I didn't sit the exams. It feels fraudulent but I worked so hard towards this, I'm sure I'd have passed the exam. Now it's such an unknown thing, we don't have the 'feeling' of how it went that sitting an exam would give.

W00t · 19/08/2020 17:49

@StormzyInaDCup They get their centre assessed grade or the calculated grade whichever is higher. That is what boards provided to schools today. BTECs, Cambridge Nationals and Entry Level qualifications have to wait until 25th August.

ColdAsIceCubes · 19/08/2020 17:49

I’m the same OP, but with English as well as Maths. My college sent out an email earlier today to explain the CAG procedure and how we can ask for appeals if we’re not happy. Good luck tomorrow 🤞

Lowhangingfruit · 19/08/2020 17:50

It's so difficult I have also worked my bloody ass off. And this has held me back for so many years confidence, job opportunities. I can't do my new course without it. I guess yours is the same?

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tinytemper66 · 19/08/2020 17:51

They are not teacher assessed grades but centre assessed grades.

SweatyBetty20 · 19/08/2020 17:52

@Lowhangingfruit I am waiting on a GCSE Biology at 48 years old to open doors to a change into paramedic because I don’t have a science! Wishing you the best of luck!

Lowhangingfruit · 19/08/2020 17:53

Thanks and you too! Let me know how it goes. I just checked the email and I can't see anything. Monday was a sudden U-turn as I told my teacher about the change!!

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cassgate · 19/08/2020 17:53

@BelleSausage

Your child will get the higher of the two grades. Please try not to worry, colleges and sixth form have more room to be lenient than unis.

Remember that the grades are not teacher assessment. We didn’t assign each pupil a grade. They were ranked as a year group and then assigned grades based on past performance. It was done as a whole centre so that individual staff members could not be over generous or over harsh.

Surely that’s what the algorithm did not schools themselves. The algorithm has been shelved because it took no account at all of the CAGs. The algorithm used the ranking of students and fitted it to the schools past performance, so if you have 6 A grade students but past performance your school only got 2 on average the 1st and 2nd ranked students would get A and 3-6 ranking would get lower grades. It sounds like your school did what the algorithm was designed to do which wasn’t the point was it. I understand that schools would have been trying to do this when it got to say SLT level so that they couldn’t be accused of grade inflation but surely teachers should have given a grade for each student to begin with as a starting point and had evidence to back them up.
Lowhangingfruit · 19/08/2020 17:55

And to you. Wow just seen the amount of votes against me shitting myself. Cold hearted lot 😉

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HipTightOnions · 19/08/2020 17:57

Surely that’s what the algorithm did not schools themselves

Some schools did it themselves because they knew there was no point submitting higher grades because the algorithm would just lower them.

Slightly kicking ourselves now.

Farcry66 · 19/08/2020 18:02

I'm going to be really interested to see what happens with my class tomorrow. They are a much much weaker cohort than I have had for the past 3 years. My usual results have included about 60% 9-7, my CAG grades are at about 15%9-7 This year. I have a feeling some of mine are actually going to benefit from the algorithm!

cassgate · 19/08/2020 18:09

@HipTightOnions

Surely that’s what the algorithm did not schools themselves

Some schools did it themselves because they knew there was no point submitting higher grades because the algorithm would just lower them.

Slightly kicking ourselves now.

Oh dear. Those poor students. I went off to check my facts after posting as I am not a teacher but have a DD getting results tomorrow. Am pretty sure her school would have done it correctly as they are high achieving school anyway. Can see there being uproar tomorrow if children who have been getting A’s are now being given CAG of B or C. I hope that the schools can justify the CAGs given or else it’s another car crash waiting.
Lowhangingfruit · 19/08/2020 18:12

Oh god I just want tomorrow to be over. I hope DD goes well.

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evensong11 · 19/08/2020 18:13

Nothing wrong with being concerned or worried.

Please OP and everyone else on this thread, do not forget about this and the A level fiasco. You have a vote in 2024.

Lowhangingfruit · 19/08/2020 18:17

I've always used my vote and will. Lucky I am in a area where it counts now. But still it wont steal over 3yrs of my life if I fail 😭

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Onceuponamidnight · 19/08/2020 18:21

Each department within the school was asked to create a rank order of students as well as their grade prediction. In many schools there will be a massive uplift/inflation of grades this year because of this reversion to CAGs. I've seen our centre's today and we have higher grades than ever, and strangely, some students have had their grades elevated (inexplicably) by up to 3 levels, e.g. 5 --> 8.

StormzyInaDCup · 19/08/2020 18:35

Thank you @W00t 😊

Good luck @Lowhangingfruit 🤞

Pieceofpurplesky · 19/08/2020 18:39

Once that is totally different from my experience where most schools CAG is lower.

Aragog · 19/08/2020 18:40

Onceupon - I think they may be an a almost fit your school though based on the overall change. I think on Monday it was being said that the overall GCSE grades may be up to 9% higher than previous years based on the CAGs and that the algorithm has only upgraded a very very small number. Both figures were lower than the a level increase slightly.

Musmerian · 19/08/2020 18:41

Just to clarify. Unless your children are doing the Cambridge International GCSEs - which send their grades to centres a week earlier- all grades will be the CAGs. Students and schools will never know whether the Exam board grade would have been higher or lower.

Aragog · 19/08/2020 18:41

a almost fit

That should have said 'an anomaly for'

Northernsoulgirl45 · 19/08/2020 18:43

You will get CAG tomorrow. It will take a week to get algorithm grades which you can accept if higher.

Aragog · 19/08/2020 18:44

But also - if your schools CAGs are so much higher than the norm why didn't the school themselves pick yo on this. It was something the schools should have done before submitting iirr. If that's the case then the blame comes from your own school surely??

SmileEachDay · 19/08/2020 18:44

I hope that the schools can justify the CAGs given or else it’s another car crash waiting

I don’t think there’ll be an appeals process. If students aren’t happy, they’ll be able to take the exam in the autumn.

ladygracie · 19/08/2020 18:45

My son’s BTEC is the only grade that he is fairly confident he did well in so is gutted that he now has to wait another week. I know it could be worse but it’s not fair.
Fingers crossed for tomorrow low. Hope you get what you need.