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I don’t think I am but how to handle. Wedding fiasco

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PrincessCatapus · 19/08/2020 01:17

Close relative getting married soon. Up and down relationship but things are going well and eager to keep things good.

Got married myself last year and had B2B as bridesmaid, paid for dresses (let them pick their own style but said about colours), didn’t care about hair/makeup/shoes etc. B2B chose to have makeup done professionally whilst my MoH did mine. All fine, no issues at wedding and she was a great support on the day.

B2B getting married next year in very expensive place and the whole thing is very extravagant but each to their own. I’m trying to be very enthusiastic and supportive and genuinely do want her to have the best day possible. However, costs are becoming a bit much. Been informed that we need to have hair and makeup done at our cost to the tune of around £100. On top of that been guilted into £150 accommodation despite it actually being close to home (have a child so easier to take home) as they’ll have to cover rooms not used and lots of guests have said they’ll go home so she’s stressing about that. Been told we have to buy dress, which is looking at around £100. There’s a gift registry we’ll have to buy a gift from. Drinks at expensive place. Never mind suits for DH and DS’s. Looks like there’s going to be at least 2 maybe 3 hen do’s.

We could technically afford it, but we have a small amount of debt to pay off from our wedding, and live within our means. Want to start saving for a house too and the money this wedding is going to cost would be a lovely holiday for the four of us (we can’t afford one this year regardless of COVID and only managed a cheap staycation last year). Would also note my DPs offered to contribute a hefty sum towards a family holiday as a wedding gift for this year. Obviously COVID hit and they were keen to book earlier in the year so they could afford other relatives wedding (paying for v expensive dress and perhaps more). We’ve told them not to worry and to forget about it. Genuinely don’t mind but stings a bit when weighing up how the money that needs to be spent on this wedding could be spent on a holiday. I’m also loathed to pay more on hair and makeup than I could stomach paying for my own wedding. She needs enough people to be able to have the person she wants but it’s the same with the rooms too. I just feel as though we’re inadvertently subsidising this extravagant wedding after we budgeted accordingly for ours and didn’t ask for anything from anyone as didn’t feel it was fair to expect people to be worrying about money just to attend our wedding.

Also a bit peeved that B2B is getting help from family that we didn’t (we did reject any financial help in fairness) but they’ve now been saying how they’ve managed to start saving for a house and can’t help but feel like we’re sacrificing a family holiday to pay for their expensive wedding whilst they’re still having extravagant birthday gifts/saving for a house etc that we can’t afford.

Sorry for being vague but would really like some advice on what to do. DH thinks we should suck it up as want to keep the relationship good, as do I, really really badly. But I cannot help but feel really put out by all of it. It just doesn’t sit right to keep saying yes to the detriment of my children.

Can I say no? Without damaging the relationship? Or should I just suck this up to keep everything ticking along smoothly.

Another factor is the other bridesmaid and I have spoken and she’s going to go along with whatever I do. She can’t afford it either but also wants to keep the peace and get the feeling she’s thinking if I say yes she’ll look awful if she’s saying no despite the fact I’m dead against it.

OP posts:
GarlicSoup · 19/08/2020 09:53

@mummyof2darlings

Offer to do your own hair and make up so you don't have to pay

Tell her you can only afford either the dress of the hotel room you can't do both!

If you do both do not get her a wedding gift this is your gift to her!

I don't think you can resent her getting financial help when you didn't as that's not her fault 🤦🏻‍♀️

Very sensible advice.
Brefugee · 19/08/2020 09:54

OP you know you need to sack most of this off so just find a way to say it with the least fall out. There is absolutely no point twisting and turning and robbing your family budget to keep B2B happy - especially if it's your sister as PP are positing.

If it is your sister, more fool you (sorry) for not accepting financial help for your own wedding. If people offer a gift (unless there are too many strings) take it.

I didn't go to my sibling's wedding for various reasons only some of which were related to cost. It has caused a wedge although it is never spoken about. But we all know things aren't the same and haven't been for a long time. Each of us, i think, has used our version of the wedding story to reassess our relationship.

PlatoAteMySnozcumber · 19/08/2020 09:56

I have spent thousands a couple of times attending destination weddings and hen dos, but that was before DC when I looked at it as money I would just spend on a night out or holiday with friends anyway so it didn’t really make that much difference to me. However now I have DC and money is mostly accounted for, I would absolutely just say ‘sorry, I can only afford X as I have a lot of non negotiable living costs. I can’t exactly take DC out of daycare to save money’.

You can totally play the Covid card and say finances are worse than usual etc and how very sorry you are about it all.

I know two people who didn’t speak to the B2B after being a bridesmaid in an aggravation wedding. One actually resigned as a bridesmaid before the big day. If neither have spoken since then the friendships weren’t worth much.

Flatpackback · 19/08/2020 09:59

Well I'd say this is clear CF behaviour. The self indulgent greediness of brides never ceases to amaze me. How has it become acceptable to demand an extravagant do and expect guests to cough up and pay for it? I'd say bugger off. The same response to weddings abroad & all the other nonsense.

AudaCityLimits · 19/08/2020 10:01

You are making all the effort in this relationship. You're scared of her and she's taking advantage of that fact.
You need to sort out those dynamics now. I don't care how she's related to you, this friendship sounds very unbalanced.

DressesWithPocketsRockMyWorld · 19/08/2020 10:07

Ooh @QueenOfPain* I had something similar! I was a single parent and said I couldn't afford to buy the £250 quid bridesmaid dress and go to the hen do abroad and the champagne bar hen do and the big meal out the day before the wedding. Got told I could do a reading at the wedding (?) and got totally totally ignored at the wedding! That's the last time I spoke to her, maybe 12 years ago?

Weddings make people awful OP, I hope you stand your ground.

*alkaline trio reference?? Yesssss!

Dashel · 19/08/2020 10:16

If I were you, I would have some sort of disaster that would require a large sum to be paid out, ie the boiler has broken, the car has had something expensive go wrong and then tell people about how upsetting it all is as DH has just found out he isn’t getting bonus. I wouldn’t care if it meant big lies either, but I’m make sure the DC were aware that the car went to the garage and was poorly in case they were asked.

Then I would say I’m really sorry much as I have been so looking forward to your wedding, I can’t afford to spend so much as previous posters have suggested. It’s more understandable if you are more skint than expected.

I also wouldn’t get any new outfits for the dc, maybe off eBay if really needed and does DH really need a new suit or does he have one that can be cleaned or borrowed?

42daystogo · 19/08/2020 10:25

Also whatever you decide to do when it comes to the day your decisions have been made so enjoy it. We went abroad for our wedding and made it very clear we didn't expect people to come if they couldn't afford it, BIL and wife came, they could afford it and go on several holidays but were also saving for a house. It wasnt the type of holiday they normally go on and it came across as though they very begrudgingly came, in hindsight if they didnt want to spend their money in that way they shouldnt have came and we could have had a party at home when we came back

Wondergirl100 · 19/08/2020 10:26

OP there is a saying - just because someone gets angry when you say No - it doesn't mean you should have said yes.

Nanny0gg · 19/08/2020 10:27

@PrincessCatapus

She wants everyone’s makeup the same and I’m pretty pants with makeup but was going to ask my friend to do it for me (same one who did for my wedding).

I agree wholeheartedly with you all. I really do. But how do I convey this in a way that isn’t going to totally mess up all the work I’ve put in to rebuilding my relationship with her? Or am I inevitably going to have to just deal with the fall out?

Other bridesmaid would be relived I think if i started the ball rolling saying no.

why are you bothered about the relationship when she isn't?
Wondergirl100 · 19/08/2020 10:27

This is coming down to a family holiday versus her illogical plans of getting people to spend money in hotels - that is going too far beyond the boundaries you need to set for your own family.

tell her ASAP and she might be able to change her own plans. I specifically chose a wedding venue where people cld either go home or there was a field for camping! I wanted to make sure overnight accommodation was not necessary.

cooldarkroom · 19/08/2020 10:28

You have said she knows about your husbands bonus. So effectively you think she expects you to use it go short for her wedding..
I would say, "look X, I am UNABLE to pay for make up/room/3 hen dos.
I am already repaying the debt I got into for MY wedding &
We can't take DCs on holiday, never mind savings....
& Unfortunately your special day will not trump my obligations.
I think it's best if I duck out from being BM as I don't want to let you down."

timeisnotaline · 19/08/2020 10:30

Take the family holiday money that was a WEDDING PRESENT to you and lock it in a mental box marked this is our holiday. If she demanded the cutlery set and crystal vase or whatever else you were also given for A wedding present she would be a greedy insanely self-centred Pig, same for your family holiday.
Drop into conversation your dp might not get a bonus this year, it’s worrying as you’d counted on it for a new washing machine . When you talk to her, instead of saying sorry say im sure you’ve been expecting this, if I could afford all this stuff Id have done some of it for my own wedding obviously.
Less doormat, if you have to grovel, go into debt, and sacrifice family holidays to stay in her good books then her good books aren’t worth it.

Wearywithteens · 19/08/2020 10:34

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LadyEloise · 19/08/2020 10:36

The bride to be sounds like a self centred, selfish, spoiled madam.
Is she aware that traditionally she pays for your dress, shoes, hair, make up, bag and flowers.
3 hen dos in a time of Covid19. She actually sounds brainless. Is she trying to copy celebrities?
A champagne wedding on a beer budget.
She needs to get a grip.
Sorry for the rant.
I'm fed up of over the top weddings and insane spending.

Pittapitta · 19/08/2020 10:39

Is it your sister? Maybe just tell her what you can and can’t afford. If it was me and I did have the money I’d just do it as it’s just one day for someone I love. I tend to go all out for weddings etc though so what you’ve said I would
Usually pay anyway even if I wasn’t a bridesmaid so it doesn’t seem outlandish to me but I’m learning from MN that no one likes paying for anything especially wedding related!

combatbarbie · 19/08/2020 10:45

Why isn't she paying for dresses, hair and make up? The only thing my bridesmaids paid for was their shoes as they could then buy something they know they would wear again.

xxxemzyxxx · 19/08/2020 10:59

OP, I think you are going to just have to deal with the fall out and just say to her you cannot afford to pay for everything when you’ve got debts and other things to pay out for. Someone else’s wedding should not put you under any financial strain. If she was a true friend she should understand.

She has asked you to be her bridesmaid for her wedding and she is literally paying out nothing for it! I know some brides that will ask for help from their bridesmaids in terms of paying for dresses, etc but she is asking a lot. I personally wouldn’t dream of asking my bridesmaids to pay out for things I dictate. For my wedding I paid for their dresses and alterations (I gave them a choice of 8 dresses to choose from they could all choose their own individual preference), I also paid for their hair as I wanted them all to have the same sort of style. The only thing I asked them to pay out for themselves was their shoes, I said I would prefer they keep to either white, silver or nude coloured shoes (Which I knew all of them would already have at least one of those colours anyway) but otherwise they could choose any style of shoe they wanted (it didn’t matter to me much as they all had long dresses so you wouldn’t really see them anyway). I said that they would have to pay for their own make up if they wanted it done by the lady I hired to do mine, but they were more than welcome to do it themselves.

I personally would not pay out to stay at the hotel when I live close by - she knew the policy of paying out for rooms that were not occupied when she booked the venue, it’s not your fault she’s agreed to those terms when she most likely knew a lot of guests live near by and would prefer to go home afterwards.

Do not make yourself worse off for her, she has asked you to be part of her wedding, she shouldn’t expect you to be paying a stupid amount out towards it.

Pandacub7 · 19/08/2020 11:00
  1. Do your own makeup and hair.
  1. Refuse accommodation because you live nearby and have a dependent young child.
  1. Only go on ONE hen do (why does she need 3 if she’s not paying??)
  1. Don’t buy off the gift register (she’s being cheeky and should be grateful that anyone brings her a present at all).
  1. Don’t buy a bridesmaid dress unless you’re allowed to wear whatever you want. The bride buys the dress if she wants to choose.
  1. Stand up for yourself! You’re letting her walk all over you. Why should you or anyone in the wedding party have to dig into their savings for someone else’s wedding??
tempnamechange98765 · 19/08/2020 11:03

YANBU about the hair, make up and accommodation. Similar to you I was happy for my bridesmaids to do their own hair, make up, and so didn't dictate how they wore it. I paid for the dresses.

Personally I think brides should pay for bridesmaids' dresses, but I hear more and more that BMs are being asked to pay.

I wouldn't bring a holiday into it as lots of things do cost money that could be "better spent" on something we like (hello £800 a month on nursery fees!) but just say it's too expensive for you to spend x on hair, make up and accommodation you don't need. The dress, I think you will just have to suck it up for the sake of keeping the peace. YADNBU with regards to the rest though.

TuttiFrutti · 19/08/2020 11:09

If someone says "I'm sorry, I can't afford it" there is nothing the other person can do. I learned this from an excellent salesman, who said it was the only customer comment he had no comeback to.

It's tough when you know you are disappointing someone, but as other people have said, this is an unbalanced relationship where she is calling all the shots and doesn't seem to care about your concerns. You need to put your big girl pants on and practise saying "Sorry, I can't afford it". Don't pay for the makeup. Don't go on more than one hen do. I wouldn't pay for the hotel either.

CreatureComfy · 19/08/2020 11:12

This kind of things will sour your friendship again and again. Next it will be housewarmings with gift lists, baby showers, second weddings, big birthdays where 'friends' plan and fund the celebration, kids' parties and Christmas dos where you're given a shopping list of what to bring or a strict (expensive) dress code - I've come across all of these. Most recently someone I know had to cancel her dd's first communion due to covid, but sent a whatsapp saying that they were having a consolation party at home, no guests but dd would love to receive gifts, money, etc to make up for the disappointment!!

If people think it's ok to spend other people's money and set their priorities they won't just do this around weddings. Friendships have to work for both parties and that takes honesty and respect for each others' situations. Don't be afraid to explain yourself firmly and tactfully, not just when you can't afford something, but also if your values around spending are just different from theirs. I think people take advantage of our cultural awkwardness about talking about money.

MusicWithRocksIn1t · 19/08/2020 11:19

You say you're worried about wrecking the relationship but she doesbt seem to be.
Yourself, your children and your DH come first before her big party.

You say her fiancé is reasonable however he and your sister(?) Are allowing your parents to get into debt paying for a lavish wedding while boasting that they are able to start saving for a house!?
Who does that to their own family?

cyclemania · 19/08/2020 11:20

Another one thinking it’s your sister, OP. How hard is she working on restoring your fragile relationship?

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 19/08/2020 11:31

I've never in my life heard of bridesmaids being expected to foot the bill for their own dresses. That is some next-level CF'ery right there.

If you're in any relationship or friendship where you find yourself 'sucking up' all manner of unreasonable demands just to 'keep the peace', then in one way or another that relationship is one-sided. It would pay to explore how. That's not to say you should necessarily turn your back on that friendship, but to reevaluate on the basis of the value you perceive that person places on it and readjust accordingly.

Capitulating to people's demands and never saying 'no' will rarely if ever make them respect you. IME, the reverse is usually true.