To be completely bored of the constant coverage of Harry and Meghan

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It's just too much! Way too much media focus on a them and all their drama. There's a global pandemic, explosions, oil spills etc. etc. etc. There are so many more important things going on in the World than a bunch of over-priviledged plebs and their family drama. It's not interesting, it's not relevant to the rest of the World and it's not in any way beneficial to anyone to keep speculating about them. I get that some people may find it interesting but so interesting it dominates headlines for months on end?!?

I should point out, I'm moaning about the media's obsession rather than them as an individual couple; whilst I'm not a fan of theirs by any stretch, it's the ridiculous number of articles I've seen about them across different news sites that's bugging me. Surely there's not that much to say about them?!

Here’s a suggestion, we could stop throwing labels and categories around around so much and use our eyes a bit more. Also take a chill pill, it’s far too hot for threatening people.

Lieandjoy Totally agree. I used to like and respect the RF. I don't anymore. I think they could have saved this situation by speaking out, by addressing the men in grey suits when they were less than helpful to MM and a slimmed down or barely existent RF is what I think we need now.

Andrew has always behaved badly, his trade envoy shenanigans, his private helicopter and private jet trips, his mixing with middle eastern dictators and their families, his selling his house at a hugely inflated price to one of them (how did that happen?), his mixing and continuing a friendship with a paedophile and only giving it up when the Press latched onto it.... all this is far far worse than anything Harry and Meghan have done, yet they are the ones with 18 articles in the DM yesterday.

I know what will be trotted out will be... but he kept his head down. No he didn't. He gave a self entitled carcrash of an interview that forced him to shut up. Until then the was carrying on as normal.

'The Palace has thrown Harry and Meghan under the bus and for that I’m now a Republican.'

I think you'll find H&M have thrown the palace under the bus. Their 'friends' sharing private details of the RF? It's everything they would usually complain loudly about.

@Lifeandjoy - what evidence do you have please that everybody who dislikes Meghan is racist? Apart from you thinking, she's mixed race, that has to be why people dislike her. You don't know the race of the people who are saying they dislike her here either. But it appears as though you are assuming that everybody is a white, subconscious racist and just need you to point it out to them. You don't know why someone might dislike a person. You are the one assuming it must be because they are mixed race/black and that it can't possibly be for any other reason.
What evidence do you have to support your claim that the 'institution' has a problem with race? Personally I think some of the older members of the family are as old-school racist as they come, and there have been many examples quoted in the press dating back many years. I disagree that this makes an entire family or 'institution' as you call it, racist.

Clearly the book has the tacit approval of H&M. There are loads of things in just the excerpts in the press that can only have come indirectly from the couple (from their friends). The press were not present at their dates or their initial trip to Botswana. If the couple weren't happy, I'm pretty sure they would be suing the journalists and they aren't.

They may not have cooperated directly but they have given their friends all the information to pass on. Harry has a lot in common with his mother, who lied about her secret co-operation with biographer, Andrew Morton. Heaven forbid, if in doing what Harry has described as protecting his family, history repeats itself.

@Lifeandjoy

Her race matters and just because it isn’t mention doesn’t mean it is the underlying force for the unexplainable ferocious hatred towards this woman.

Racist and racially biased people do not always utter the words race but the motivation for their bile is unmistakable.

In Meghan all I see is a woman no less or more flawed than the next. Her crime is that she has the temerity to exist and dare to be part of the whitest of British institutions. Andrew on the other hand is treated kindly. Her crime of simply existing is greater than his disgraceful behaviour. The Palace has thrown Harry and Meghan under the bus and for that I’m now a Republican. The world has changed and we must all change. We cannot continue to support such nonsense. It’s not okay to just say “I am not racist” we must be anti-racist. That institution has a problem with race. I cannot support it.

All that you've written is 'in your opinion'...

You've brought her being mixed-race into the chat about the OP being bored of all the coverage of H & M in the press.

Do you conveniently overlook the un-warranted criticism of other people because they're not Black?

You've criticised the Royals for 'throwing them under the bus' but let's be honest here, you don't know that they have but have formed your opinion based on tabloid trash that have suggested this.

I don't know them, I have no interest in them, they are not important to me, they don't represent me.

I know what will be trotted out will be... but he kept his head down. No he didn't. He gave a self entitled carcrash of an interview that forced him to shut up. Until then the was carrying on as normal.
This is what H&M have done - carried on as normal until giving tacit approval for this book (the equivalent of Andrew's car crash interview and the equivalent of Diana's car crash interview).

the equivalent of Andrew's car crash interview

Are you saying that this book is the ‘equivalent’ of Andrew’s interview?

Because if so, I have no fucking words.

All the posters going on about 'it's not because of her race!' have still not explained why she is so intensely disliked, with evidence of what she has done to ignite such negativity towards her.

Clearly the book has the tacit approval of H&M.

Yes, that’s true.

But they did not write it and will not receive profits from it. These points are statements of fact.

Oh please. How in the name of all that is holy can you compare the two?

Someone upthread said they actually wrote it and are getting all the money from its sales, so I'd like to be clear on the tacit approval too

All the posters going on about 'it's not because of her race!' have still not explained why she is so intensely disliked, with evidence of what she has done to ignite such negativity towards her.

Or explained why she is pulled apart for behaviour that is par for the course for royals, but barely commented on when others do it.

All the posters going on about 'it's not because of her race!' have still not explained why she is so intensely disliked, with evidence of what she has done to ignite such negativity towards her

Exactly!
You don't know her, you don't know what she has had to put up with, or not put up with, you don't know her character or personality, you don't know whether she is coming from the right place with what she does, so why?
You only know what you read from the likes of the DM which has a huge huge agenda against her.

'They may not have cooperated directly but they have given their friends all the information to pass on. Harry has a lot in common with his mother, who lied about her secret co-operation with biographer, Andrew Morton. Heaven forbid, if in doing what Harry has described as protecting his family, history repeats itself.'

Yes, it is weird to see Harry seemingly on a self destruct path, this book must be the final nail in the coffin with the RF. It's all so sad when he used to be so close to William, claiming his family were the family M had never had on their first Christmas together. They want privacy but let their friends tell all to a tabloid journalist . I just hope he is having therapy to deal with it all.

Onthere, it’s not about her race? Really? Who do you believe it isn’t? Can you describe the typically person who thinks the abuse levelled at her has nothing to do with her race?

I know what will be trotted out will be... but he kept his head down. No he didn't. He gave a self entitled carcrash of an interview that forced him to shut up. Until then the was carrying on as normal.

Yeeeessss.... except that the dreadful interview was about nine months ago.

There's not been enough to feed new developments to feed our need for gossip since then and the guy has been lying low. I'm guessing he's hoping he'll be able to live a quiet retirement and that nobody will really notice what a nasty little shit he is. He's inherited his mother's ability to shut up when shutting up is to his advantage. Crafty old bastard.

@LaurieMarlow

Clearly the book has the tacit approval of H&M.

Yes, that’s true.

But they did not write it and will not receive profits from it. These points are statements of fact.

Do they have editorial rights?

There's not been enough to feed new developments to feed our need for gossip since then and the guy has been lying low

He has absolutely no choice because his behaviour is far far worse than anything H&M have done. Emily Maitlis has recently said that after the interview he told her he felt he'd put the lid on it and felt the interview had gone really well. The arrogance of the man. No sympathy for the victims, no humility, just him digging himself out of a hole .... i.e. this is all I'm saying and you little people can just keep quiet now because I've explained myself.
So when opinion turned against him, he was forced to lie low.

'Or explained why she is pulled apart for behaviour that is par for the course for royals, but barely commented on when others do it.'

Again, they've all been pulled apart! Repeatedly! H and M are getting it more so at the moment because they are currently high profile. Sarah Ferguson isn't anymore.

H and M are pulled because they do stuff like have a whine about their feelings on an African documentary. Now I don't know about you but I've never seen the Prince of Wales or William turn an interview about the cause they are promoting into a poor me sesh, have you?

Is the main criterion for not being unjustly abuse that one has to hide their existence?

Meghan’s crime is that she isn’t lying low. Remember she had done nothing wrong but her very existence and reminders to the British public that is exist is worthy of abuse. To avoid the abuse, she apparently must hide her existence.

Andrew commits an appalling abuse against women. Somehow Meghan’s mere existence is equivalent to his disgraceful behaviour. She should hide herself away.

My heart hurts from this racist and misogynistic abuse. That is what it is and it must be labelled for what it is.

Why say 'whine'? Why not just say 'talk' about their feelings? To me, that means whatever you say will have the DM spin on it.

Again, they've all been pulled apart!

Not too anything like the same degree.

Compare the endless coverage of the Frogmore renovations with the much costlier renovations of K&W’s KP apartments as just one example.

H and M are pulled because they do stuff like have a whine about their feelings on an African documentary.

After months and months of negative press coverage of appalling crimes like bump touching, avocado eating, etc, etc.

Now I don't know about you but I've never seen the Prince of Wales or William turn an interview about the cause they are promoting into a poor me sesh, have you?

Well I’d god damn hope not as these two get pretty much the easiest ride going when it comes to the press. The protection of the heirs is obvious.

Yep. And Prince Andrew's renovations, Royal Lodge £7.5M, indoor swimming pool, private chapel, 8 accomodations for staff. And the 3 security officers that is still paid for, despite him stepping down.
And on and on

Fair? NO

@Lifeandjoy

Her race matters and just because it isn’t mention doesn’t mean it is the underlying force for the unexplainable ferocious hatred towards this woman.
Or @daisystone* could just find her privileged and a moaner and complainer and not be remotely racist.

Racist and racially biased people do not always utter the words race
I understand that but I don't think you should automatically assume that everyone who says something negative about a person who happens to be bi-racial or any form of BAME is racist. Everyone has positive and negative traits.

but the motivation for their bile is unmistakable.
No, it isn't. Judging someone else's motivation is totally subjective and you cannot judge the poster as racist based on what was said in the post in question. The punch in the face comment wasn't nice but they may have said that about anyone moaning and consuming. Don't turn this into something it might not be.