To be completely bored of the constant coverage of Harry and Meghan

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It's just too much! Way too much media focus on a them and all their drama. There's a global pandemic, explosions, oil spills etc. etc. etc. There are so many more important things going on in the World than a bunch of over-priviledged plebs and their family drama. It's not interesting, it's not relevant to the rest of the World and it's not in any way beneficial to anyone to keep speculating about them. I get that some people may find it interesting but so interesting it dominates headlines for months on end?!?

I should point out, I'm moaning about the media's obsession rather than them as an individual couple; whilst I'm not a fan of theirs by any stretch, it's the ridiculous number of articles I've seen about them across different news sites that's bugging me. Surely there's not that much to say about them?!

Was Fergie black ? Was Camilla black? Was Beatrice black? They all got it in the neck from media for decades.

The narrative to mock Bestrice and Eugenie only let up fairly recently and a new narrative of Queen's beloved granddaughters, true princessses , has replaced it.

Re Frogmore

Non working Royals are meant to pay something within spitting distance of market rent for their accommodation (didnt the Kents and the Gloucestershire movemout from central London's because if this?)

The figure they are planning to pay for Frogmore is similar to the market rent you would pay for similar size properties in the same area (and of course does not allow for better location, so arguable is below market rent).

They have not specified how much if the rest is towards paying off renovations (a cost which is presumably interest free)

Because either they're paying peanuts (and perhaps we're not meant to notice, as it's wrapped up in the rent) or their rent is nowhere near market rate. Which is just plain wrong

The palace issued a public statement denying Kate had Botox but didn’t help towards the onslaught from the British media towards MM

As we know that us bang to rights wrong, I'm a bit wary of the other assertion.

One clinic was advertising in a way that wouid reasonably lead people to assume KM was a client. Someone rang KP about it, and they said she was not a client, and they followed up by asking the firm to remove the misleading ad.

(Firm had, presumably, been relying on Palace silence to build reputation. But the Royals are very careful about product endorsements out side the Warrant system.

I am not aware any firms mispresented MM as a client, let alone that any such events were uncorrected

Meghan is mixed race and no amount of claims that “it’s not racism” can hide the obvious fact that the underlying fuel for the hatred levelled at this woman is her blackness. If a poll was conducted, I am sure that the vast majority of people if colour would agree but hey, their opinion does not count. The can only imagine the psychological hurt people of colour must feel when they constantly see this woman being bashed for no reason.

I too am of mixed race, and a good deal darker of skin than Meghan. Even before Meghan appeared on the scene, I used to think it would be great if he chose a dark-skinned wife; and how would the RF react? So of course I was delighted when he chose her.
I'm not a royal watcher by any means, but their story caught my attention and I was eager to see how things would develop.
Unfortunately, it soon began to go downhill. They are behaving like entitled prats and I am beyond disappointed. People used to say she is a diva, and she has certainly lived up to that appellation, if this book of which she gave approval is anything to go by.
I haven't read it but I have read excerpts and I'm just and .
There's a lovely German word, fremdschaemen, which means to be embarrassed or feel ashamed on behalf of somebody else, and that's how I feel BECAUSE she is mixed race; as if she has brought discredit to us (obviously she hasn't -- everyone is responsible for their own behaviour and do not act om behalf of their race; but people who are BAME need to be particularly self-aware). She seems totally unaware of how this moaning and complaining comes across. Harry is obviously out of his depth.

The book was supposed to garner public sympathy and understanding it has done the opposite, which shows just how self-absorbed this couple is. I cannot bear Harry giving public lectures on this that and the other does he really think he is so wise and important?

It's certainly not racist to criticize this couple. Their actions have brought it on, not her race.

Exactly, Winnie. It was not about defending Kate per se, but about setting an important record straight about royal endorsement of commercial companies.
But that subtle distinction would be lost on many - including H&M.

Agree, Lamahaha.

You're obviously not that bored as you're following it.

If there's an article on them, don't read it.
If there's a programme on them, don't watch it.

Lamahaha Do you really believe that her race is never a factor in any of the nasty, bile filled comments she garners? Do you honestly believe that? Wow.

@C130 - how do you account for the comments and dislike for Harry then? And, years ago, Wallis Simpson. She was white. As is Fergie, Camilla, etc. Pippa Middleton also had a bit of a battering in the press just for being Kate's sister. She's white. Being black or mixed race doesn't exclude someone from being a knob that people dislike. Disliking a knob that happens to be black/mixed race does not make someone racist. People are more than their race. They are individuals and it's actually the people crying racism that are the ones highlighting her heritage and claiming this can be the only possible reason she is disliked. Look past her race. It doesn't define her, or anybody else for that matter.

[quote Ohtherewearethen]@C130 - how do you account for the comments and dislike for Harry then? And, years ago, Wallis Simpson. She was white. As is Fergie, Camilla, etc. Pippa Middleton also had a bit of a battering in the press just for being Kate's sister. She's white. Being black or mixed race doesn't exclude someone from being a knob that people dislike. Disliking a knob that happens to be black/mixed race does not make someone racist. People are more than their race. They are individuals and it's actually the people crying racism that are the ones highlighting her heritage and claiming this can be the only possible reason she is disliked. Look past her race. It doesn't define her, or anybody else for that matter.[/quote]

Post of the day award. Completely agree with you.

@C130

Lamahaha Do you really believe that her race is never a factor in any of the nasty, bile filled comments she garners? Do you honestly believe that? Wow.

I don't know, as I haven't seen any of it. I don't read the DM, I don't watch TV; I've read a couple of MN threads about her/them and most of the criticisms are on matters that I completely agree with. I have no idea if the people behind them are racist or not. I don't assume racism behind every criticism of a black person. I'm curious, though: are you black or mixed race yourself? I ask, because I often find that white people are often quicker to call racism and get offended on black people's behalf, than black people themselves, who often just say "meh, I've seen much worse, that's nothing."

I certainly don't assume racist motivations unless the racism is explicit. It's actually good practice. I look at what is said, and if it is factual or not. People aren't excused from questionable behaviour just because they're black or mixed race.

I come from a majority black country so I know very well that black people misbehave too!)

Post of the day award. Completely agree with you.

Me too.

Ohtherewearethen If only that were the case though that she is being judged so harshly just on her actions alone and nothing else.

Why do you think she isn’t being judged by her actions alone? I am judging her on that at basis, as I’m sure many others are.

I do get sick of people harping on about her race. She is just unlikeable because of how she behaves. She acts like Mariah Carey. She was warned that the Royal Family was different and that she would have to observe protocol etc etc. She said it herself that she was warned but she wanted it her way and even when people bent the rules for her it still wasn't enough. Harry is just a dick who thinks he has important things to say when actually he is really quite thick and knows nothing about the world.

They are both embarrassing and I am glad they have buggered off.

Lamahaha How much do you know that is "actually factual or not" about her then?

@C130

Lamahaha How much do you know that is "actually factual or not" about her then?

Most of what I know comes from the excerpts I've read in Finding Freedom. I presume that is factual, as it has their approval.

From my understanding, this book was done without any input from the couple. I apologise in advance if this is not the case.

@C130 - the authors have acknowledged in the book that they had spoken to Harry and Meghan when writing their book.
Also, please expand upon or show the evidence you have that proves your claim that people who don't like Meghan only feel this way because she is mixed race. And how does that work with the likes of Wallis Simpson, Camilla, Pippa, etc?

@KatherineParr4

Why do you think she isn’t being judged by her actions alone? I am judging her on that at basis, as I’m sure many others are.

Yes, you and plenty of others no doubt. But to claim that all the negative comments she receives and that none of them will be due to her heritage, would be downright disingenuous.

Where do you mean C130? Across all social media? Yes you’re right.

But your implication is that’s the only driver of the comments and that her behaviour isn’t worthy of criticism in any way which is the other extreme.

MM hasn’t behaved well at times and, even more so, neither has PH who knew the rules.

LittelBearPad Please read my above post.

Hoping this won't upset too many fans but I find the whole me me me media spin of "celeb" a bit distracting and unnecessary. As in all frankness many are not that particularly talented and what are people reading such material celebrating? Are you perpetually supporting by adding to their fame and fortune and so celebrating their wealth or what is the curiosity and attraction? Some are not even that "attractive"? I am thinking irrelevant c to z listers etc etc and no not a fan of Hello et al or though do (pre Covid) occasionally pick it up (out of curiosity- slight hypocrisy I know) when awaiting service in a salon etc. However Country Life and Vogue etc is more inspirational. Yes I know both of these magazines contain celeb material but the thrust of this post is more addressing all the social media spin and likes of Daily Mail and other red tops celeb watch gossip columns etc. I will not buy books written about these celebs and exiled royals etc. Seems like they need to constantly be in the media spotlight (with marketing and self promotion staff and agents) to survive? And without it they are just like you and I - boring normal members of the public!
Perhaps I am reading too much into this phenomenon? And that life needs a bit of gloss and gossip to be more colourful?

stop reading the Daily Mail - no other news sources are covering them in detail. You can control it very easily!

@Gwynfluff

stop reading the Daily Mail - no other news sources are covering them in detail. You can control it very easily!

The Times, Independent, Guardian and Telegraph are all running regular articles on them. Not including the Red Tops.