To be completely bored of the constant coverage of Harry and Meghan

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It's just too much! Way too much media focus on a them and all their drama. There's a global pandemic, explosions, oil spills etc. etc. etc. There are so many more important things going on in the World than a bunch of over-priviledged plebs and their family drama. It's not interesting, it's not relevant to the rest of the World and it's not in any way beneficial to anyone to keep speculating about them. I get that some people may find it interesting but so interesting it dominates headlines for months on end?!?

I should point out, I'm moaning about the media's obsession rather than them as an individual couple; whilst I'm not a fan of theirs by any stretch, it's the ridiculous number of articles I've seen about them across different news sites that's bugging me. Surely there's not that much to say about them?!

@TheChristmasPrincess

*crap - Danny you autocorrect

And wowzers I never realised how much she actually spent on her maternity wardrobe 😲

Do you really think she paid for any of it? That is not how it works.

I don't know about the jewellery, I was just replying to your £56,000 engagement dress being a one off. It wasn't, the Dior maternity gown was £90,000, excluding any jewellery.

Also, some details from Meghan's Mirror (rumoured to be run by Jessica Mulroney) and definitely not a UK tabloid confirming that the dress was Diot Haute Couture (not just customised Dior ready-to-wear). And, if you needed the information, a Dior Haute Couture “simple” dress cost between €40,000 and €80,000, while an “elaborate” dress would cost around €150,000 to €200,000.

www.meghansmirror.com/special-feature/meghan-markle-style-deep-dive/meghan-markle-haute-couture/

It shouldn't matter how much Kate spent, on a thread about Meghan and Harry.

I see how you don’t want it to be, but it’s absolutely relevant when showing she’s been held to different standards to others.

it's like complaining that the CEO of a company with 15 years experience has a nicer company car than the office junior who worked for a year.

What a ridiculous comparison. While not the same status as Kate, she was a young senior royal at that point and one of only a handful of full time working royals. It’s more like comparing the CEO with the CFO.

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'What exactly have they ‘dished out’?? How incredibly childish'

Have you not heard of the book 'Finding Freedom' that is been discussed on here? They may not be making money and apparently weren't 'interviewed' but they've allowed friends to pass on a load of private details. I would say breaking many other people's privacy. That's what I meant when I said they can dish it but can't take it.

The back of the book says: We have spoken with close friends of Harry and Meghan, royal aides and palace staff (past and present), the charities and organisations they have built long-lasting relationships with and, when appropriate, the couple themselves.

So either the authors or H&M are not being honest about not contributing directly. The judge at the hearing regarding their copyright claim has also publicly stated he believes, from the evidence he has seen, that it is likely they brief the media themselves. This information is now on public record and is not speculation.

I hope Harry and Meghan are happy with the decisions they have made and the new life away from the royal family that they have chosen.

More speculation. Really making your point here guys.

They are just quite hard to like as a couple. The constant PDAs are silly and extremely unprofessional. I can't think of any job where you'd be allowed to be all over your partner during work hours like that. It was really distracting and just unnecessary. There are so many published photographs where she always manages to be looking directly at the camera, even when in a crowd, she seems to look away from whoever is talking to smile for the camera. It comes across as being more interested in exposure than whoever she was speaking/listening to.
Harry appears to be utterly miserable. I think his and William's mental health was probably completely ignored and definitely severely mismanaged after the death of their mother and for that, the royal family should feel shame. However, he comes across as increasingly angry at everybody and everything and I can understand why people might find that hard to swallow, along with the hypocrisy and dreadfully ill-timed 'no one ever asks how I am, I'm not thriving' comments.
No doubt they had plenty of ideas as to how they would modernise the monarchy and change the world but the truth is, they just don't have that sort of clout. They are not relevant or respected enough. I hope their charitable foundation does wonderful things but Meghan will make sure she always comes first.

But we're probably not alowed to talk about how much Kate spends on her clothes are we? According to some parts of the press, Kate spent more in a year than Meghan. So there we go
I depends what press you look at

@LaurieMarlow

It shouldn't matter how much Kate spent, on a thread about Meghan and Harry.

I see how you don’t want it to be, but it’s absolutely relevant when showing she’s been held to different standards to others.

it's like complaining that the CEO of a company with 15 years experience has a nicer company car than the office junior who worked for a year.

What a ridiculous comparison. While not the same status as Kate, she was a young senior royal at that point and one of only a handful of full time working royals. It’s more like comparing the CEO with the CFO.

I disagree. Within a generation Harry will be about 15th in line, depending on how many children the Cambridge children have, if anything they will be less important than Sophie, so I think it's a fairer comparison than Kate, who will be queen consort.

Do you really think she paid for any of it? That is not how it works.

It is absolutely what the ethical standards she signed up to require. So yes, that is how it should work. From the Royal family's website:

"The fundamental principle governing the acceptance of gifts by Members of The Royal Family is that no gifts, including hospitality or services, should be accepted which would, or might appear to, place the Member of The Royal Family under any obligation to the donor"

"Gifts offered by commercial enterprises in the UK should normally be declined, unless they are offered as a souvenir of an official visit to the enterprises' premises, to mark a Royal marriage or other special personal occasion. When gifts are accepted, the consent of the Member of The Royal Family should be contingent upon the enterprise undertaking not to exploit the gift for commercial purposes"

I disagree. Within a generation Harry will be about 15th in line, depending on how many children the Cambridge children have

At the time, she was one of a handful of full time, senior royals.

Obviously their status would change, that’s the nature of royalty, but at the time, that’s the fact. Much like Margaret haD a prominent role early in her career.

Ohtherewearethen

Don't agree with much of that, sorry. How do you know they aren't happy just being together? How do you know 'Meghan will always come first'? You do not know this.

I cannot cope with the criticisms of her looking at the camera. On other threads she was roundly criticised for turning round and saying something to Harry whilst on the balcony, and him having to say 'look ahead now'. Everyone was disgusted. How rude she was. How ill mannered.

However, if you properly looking at the footage, she turned back round in time for the National Anthem, and Camilla was turning and talking and gesticulating to Charles for longer. Yet MM is unfairly criticised for what Camilla was doing!
This is what I can't stand.

She can't do a thing right in some people's eyes.
So I take no notice of the ... 'she took a step to the left in front of someone, she turned round, she looked at the camera'.
You could find all of them doing something like that if you choose to.

LaurieMarlow
You are defending her very vigorously despite the wealth of unlikeable characteristics she has displayed and that have been mentioned here. What is it about her that you like?

You are defending her very vigorously despite the wealth of unlikeable characteristics she has displayed and that have been mentioned here. What is it about her that you like?

Play the ball, not the man.

I don’t ‘like’her. I don’t know her. However the double standards applied to her and the focus on her (with much more abhorrent things going on in the family) is ridiculous.

@Roussette

But we're probably not alowed to talk about how much Kate spends on her clothes are we? According to some parts of the press, Kate spent more in a year than Meghan. So there we go I depends what press you look at

Of course we can, Rousette! Here's some breakdowns for you (not from a newspaper as I know you don't like those)

Value of wardrobe worn in their first year as a Royal (the source quotes in Euros sorry):
Kate - €61,603
Meghan - €479,048

Value of items worn in 2018:
Kate - €81,237
Meghan - €479,048 (NB not including her wedding dress as cost can't be estimated)

Value of items worn in 2019:
Kate -€68,719
Meghan - €111,628
ufonomore.com/blog/first-year

@LaurieMarlow you asked for links on the £90,000 Dior dress as you had never heard about this before. We provided you with links (several)

If you want to dispute with the newspapers estimates, take that up with the editors and writers, they are the ones who provide us with this information

With all due respect Serenster what in the four and a half, is ufonomore.com?! An american blogger who is obsessed with our RF!

One extreme to the other!

Christmas the dress was 'reported to be worth'. Slightly different to 'it cost'

What can I say - there are anoraks of all persuasions out there, Rousette!

@choli I genuinely thought she would have done? I remember reading an article in which Kim Kardashian tried to gift a pair of shoes to either Kate or Meghan but they had to return them back to her with a letter stating that they are not allowed to receive gifts. I was always under the impression they got money from the sovereign grant and I’m sure Meghan & Kate get an allowance from Prince Charles (due to the fact that they’re not allowed to earn their own money).

Maybe under some circumstances it is allowed? Feel free to correct and educate me on this matter if you are in the know though, royal protocol always fascinated me 🙂

you are not wrong ! 😂

@Roussette - I'm neithef asking nor expecting you to agree. It's just my opinion. I find it bemusing that you think their PDAs are acceptable in work though.
I'm not doubting that they are happy together. I just don't know why they feel they need to keep proving it to everyone while at work. I stand by Harry being miserable and angry with everybody and everything else though! That's the persona he's displaying in public.

I'm neithef asking nor expecting you to agree. It's just my opinion
Ditto.

He's displaying that persona according to you.

It's only constant if your main source of news is the Daily Mail. Most other news sources appear to be finding numerous other subjects to write about...

The problem with couture dresses is that they are hard to cost up unless you are in the know, especially anything that has been specially designed. Dress estimates could easily be half or or double the price of the actual piece. But I’m thinking that people who write these articles are making reasonable guestimations (my favourite word 😆) based on inside sources and experts rather than plucking numbers from out of the air.

And whilst the DM has been known to twist the truth, they have been unexpectedly accurate in terms of some of the H&M gossip recently 😐(much to my chargrin, there’s nothing worse than smug “i was right” Piers Morgan urgh 🙄)