To think schools should not reopen in Sept?

[SusanFrimp]

I think that schools should not fully reopen in September and instead be partially reopened to some years. It is just not safe enough to reopen yet. I'd say December at the latest for full reopening. If they can't reopen other smaller places, how can they reopen schools with 1000's of kids? AIBU?

To be clear, my desire for my kids to be back in school, to get the best possible education, does not trump, in my mind, teachers and other school staff member's right and need to both feel safe, and be kept safe, as possible, in their workplace.

The Government is already running schools on fumes, and extra cleaning and sanitizer etc will be needed, and if staff wish to use it, PPE. They need to put their money where their overfed gobs are. And not in their kids and cronies schools, in the schools that need it!

Exactly @mbosnz

@Parker231

There were only eight Covid deaths recorded in the last 24 hours.

Yes and a further 1,062 confirmed cases. Don't overlook the potential gravity of this for many please.

The really unsafe place where parents can catch Covid 19 seems at present to be pubs. These should be shut at least 14 days before schools return.

YANBU in the slightest, it's common bloody sense in a global pandemic.

Apologies if this has already been posted but thought this was interesting

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/05/covid-19-may-spread-more-easily-schools-than-thought-report-warns

@Watdafark

YANBU in the slightest, it's common bloody sense in a global pandemic.

Don't children deserve an education? What about working parents? Should we all just be hiding in our houses for the foreseeable?

Should we all just be hiding in our houses for the foreseeable?

And with no means of earning a living how are we supposed to keep said houses?

Then what?

So what happens if infection rates rise significantly as a result and we have to lock down again (which plenty of idiots won't adhere to)? Then what happens to our jobs, houses, and education? We'll all be in an even more hideous mess.

@LaurieMarlow

Should we all just be hiding in our houses for the foreseeable?

And with no means of earning a living how are we supposed to keep said houses?

Then what?

Exactly!

So what happens if infection rates rise significantly as a result and we have to lock down again

Any additional lockdowns would be local, as and when are needed, not national. While far from perfect, our ability to deal with CV is much improved since March.

With GDP forecast to shrink more than 20% as it, another national lockdown would be catastrophic. How do we fund public services in that instance?

@Watdafark

So what happens if infection rates rise significantly as a result and we have to lock down again (which plenty of idiots won't adhere to)? Then what happens to our jobs, houses, and education? We'll all be in an even more hideous mess.

If schools don't open in September there will be a lot of people who can't work. I'm expected to teach university students again from September- I can't do that in person or remotely while homeschooling a 5 year old.

Children deserve to be educated. The longer schools are shut the bigger the inequality gap will be. Not all children are living in safe homes , homes with lots of outdoor space, access to the internet and parents who have the time/ability/inclination to homeschool.

YABU.

Beaches & pubs should be closed. Our children are the future. Why should they have to miss out on FT education!!

I don’t have a school age child but I think schools have to be the absolute number one priority over everything else. If it came to it, I’d be in favour of shutting everything again - pubs, restaurants, bars, shops - in order to allow the schools to open again.

Education is a fundamental human right. We can’t continue to deprive 9 million children of it.

@llarreggub

The really unsafe place where parents can catch Covid 19 seems at present to be pubs. These should be shut at least 14 days before schools return.

Agreed.

Luckily 81% think you’re being unreasonable so...

These threads are ridiculous. Kids need an education and all the other benefits school brings. If you don’t like it, deregister and homeschool.

Disagree. Think they should go back. In our borough we have had very few deaths, few cases. I think we need to get back to as near as normal ASAP, but just adjustments and modifications.

As with many things, we need to find a middle ground to keep it as safe as possible, keep children learning and safeguard their education and mental health. I think better safeguards can be made than those already in the guidelines. As an example, I think all schools should do temperature checks on all children at registration. Just for starters.

I think that primary and secondary schools need different approaches, as primary schools are smaller, their bubbles will be smaller and there is different emerging evidence about the risks of transmission for primary and secondary age children (secondary age seem to be more likely to spread it) - eg www.bloombergquint.com/business/covid-19-spread-fastest-by-teens-and-tweens-korea-study-finds

Likewise, primary and secondary age children have different needs for care - as in primary age children will all need supervision and not to be left alone if parents are returning to work. For many (most?) secondary age pupils this is less of a factor and they could stay at home safely part-time if parents are working. Not saying it's ideal, but it's possible.

I don't think it's helpful to have a stark choice of send your child in full time or de-register and commit to full time home education. I think the threat of fines for non-attendance should be removed for now.

At the very least we need to be prepared for a blended learning style approach (this would actually be my preference for secondary age children, with the possible exception of those in exam years). The recent spikes are concerning and these are happening before children are back in school.

For anyone interested, I saw this open letter to Boris Johnson today from parents with concerns about the current plans for re-opening and suggestions to make this safer. Feel free to sign and share if you agree docs.google.com/forms/d/1AadCzfnp-1eM28qWUAPR80oxXt6nLxqtjiMLxyikHHM/viewform?fbclid=IwAR34rHBuBrjQ2nZ_BJHcgfPazd4tZ8r8nr1h7-2QwjYeJgB1HmKNg-2bzbU&edit_requested=true

@Delatron

"Luckily 81% think you’re being unreasonable so..."

So... what, exactly? We all have opinions.

The virus doesn't care what any of us think, being a virus.

Agree with @catsarecute I think primary need to be in full time. But for secondary schools where the pupils are more able to manage their own workload and don't need 24/7 adult supervision, blended learning could be a better option.

PPE should be allowed for staff.

Kids need to go back and get an education. They deserve an education and they deserve to not suffer further down the line because their education was put on hold for too long.

It’s all well and good saying parents can do homeschooling. Sure, there will be some children thriving at home. But what about the ones who are not and who do better in a school environment? Even the ones who are doing well still need to go back.

In normal circumstances, parents are fined for not sending their children to school because going to school is that important. It should be an absolute priority to get them back there.

Of course they shouid open .. all this scaremongering- lots of kids had been back for weeks and no cases in my borough

@TakemedowntoPotatoCity

The thought of schools not going back is bringing me out in a cold sweat - stop it!

I'm with you!

So what? Well if you don’t care about opinions then don’t post a poll?

Most people don’t agree with the OP. The general consensus is that most people want their kids back at school.

@Waxonwaxoff0 I think blended learning may happen indirectly at Secondary School if year groups end up having to self isolate on a regular basis