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Original poster

To think schools should not reopen in Sept?

711 replies

SusanFrimp · 09/08/2020 14:15

I think that schools should not fully reopen in September and instead be partially reopened to some years. It is just not safe enough to reopen yet. I'd say December at the latest for full reopening. If they can't reopen other smaller places, how can they reopen schools with 1000's of kids? AIBU?

OP posts:
mbosnz · 09/08/2020 14:29

I'm with Boris (never thought I would say that) Pubs, restaurants and shops should close before schools

Wonder if Johnson's Daddy threw a strop about that statement, and all?

Hobnobswantshernameback · 09/08/2020 14:29

Oh and please if it's not safe to go back deregister your child so teachers can actually spend their time teaching those that can be arsed to be there and the vulnerable who have no choice not to be there

Sallycinnamum · 09/08/2020 14:29

FFS, do we need another thread about bloody schools going back?

cologne4711 · 09/08/2020 14:29

Having just read my son's old (secondary) school's comprehensive plans for reopening, I would dispute your claim it's not safe. They seem to have thought of every angle.

As pp's have said, if you don't like the idea, de-register your child and keep them at home. It's a very dog in the manger attitude to expect everyone not to do something because you don't like it.

MarcelineMissouri · 09/08/2020 14:30

@Proudboomer

Living on the south coast and seeing the number of families and children on the packed beaches I would think they would be safer in school.
People have been moaning about packed beaches since May and as far as I’m aware not a single spike or outbreak has been attributed to them.
Hobnobswantshernameback · 09/08/2020 14:30

Op is either lesser spotted goady fucker or a cowardly name changer

cologne4711 · 09/08/2020 14:30

do we need another thread about bloody schools going back

Or complaining about wearing masks, or not wearing masks.

Sigh.

MezleyM · 09/08/2020 14:31

SLT in large secondary school. I’ve spent most of the holidays so far writing, rewriting, tweaking, changing our risk assessment. We’ve done everything we possibly can to make schools as safe as possible, following government and union guidance.

It’s not what happens in schools that will determine the safety of children and teachers (and teachers will be at far greater risk). It’s the behaviour of everyone else. Quite simply, if parents want schools to stay open and employers want their staff to be able to work effectively (whether wfh or not) then everyone else needs to take a bit of collective responsibility and do their bit by social distancing/wearing a mask etc. And schools re-opening affects us all, whether you have children or not.

cologne4711 · 09/08/2020 14:31

I commend the search function to all MN users - you can find all the threads on a topic rather than starting your own. If it's a zombie thread, then you can potentially start your own.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 09/08/2020 14:31

And it being "safe" is a personal opinion. I'm no more scared of coronavirus than I am any other virus so to me it's safe.

If you don't feel it's safe, deregister your child and let those of us that want our children back get on with it.

cologne4711 · 09/08/2020 14:32

People have been moaning about packed beaches since May and as far as I’m aware not a single spike or outbreak has been attributed to them

Quite. And although they look packed they're not that packed, people don't sit right next to someone else, they have space around them.

HesterShaw1 · 09/08/2020 14:33

Susan, share your definition of "safe". When illness and death has been eradicated?

What do you think of schools remaining open during flu epidemics, which kill more kids than Covid?

doubleshotespresso · 09/08/2020 14:33

@MiniCooperLover

This can't be serious ?!? Life HAS to go back to some normality with a sense of being careful. People need to work, bills need to be paid, mortgages need to be paid. In 6 months I know of one person who was very unwell and thankfully recovered. My child needs an education! Stop deliberately taunting.
This IS very serious. We know 3 families from DC school who've had Covid and 4 x other people who have died. Please do not minimise this. The concern for many remains very high and while yes normality is needed it still doesn't come before safety for all.
doubleshotespresso · 09/08/2020 14:34

@LimitIsUp

I'm with Boris (never thought I would say that) Pubs, restaurants and shops should close before schools
Maybe they shouldn't have opened so soon and we wouldn't need this discussion? Just a thought!
OverTheRainbow88 · 09/08/2020 14:34

@MezleyM

I couldn’t agree more.

When my DS went back in June at drop offs I could hear so many parents arranging big out of school meetings which made me think as a family we can be as safe as possible but then we are relying on others in the bubble to follow suit!

cologne4711 · 09/08/2020 14:35

We know 3 families from DC school who've had Covid and 4 x other people who have died

Well that is very unfortunate and tragic for you, but I don't think it's a common experience unless you work in healthcare. I only know one person who has definitely had it (and she's a nurse) and of someone who has died of it (and she was in her 80s and had numerous conditions and probably caught it at church, not from school age grandchildren (she does't have any)).

Original poster
SusanFrimp · 09/08/2020 14:36

And why must I have to deregister? Again, I am not saying we must keep them off. I'm saying for a few year groups in at a time. Not all at once.
I've spoken to many parents about this and they also believe that it's not safe and would rather do online schooling.

OP posts:
Parker231 · 09/08/2020 14:36

Schools have worked hard to make it as safe as possible and were very successful in providing good education at the end of the summer term for selected year groups. As workplaces change to getting employees off furlough and back into the workplace, schools need to reopen fully for education and to enable parents to keep their jobs.

doubleshotespresso · 09/08/2020 14:37

@cologne4711

We know 3 families from DC school who've had Covid and 4 x other people who have died

Well that is very unfortunate and tragic for you, but I don't think it's a common experience unless you work in healthcare. I only know one person who has definitely had it (and she's a nurse) and of someone who has died of it (and she was in her 80s and had numerous conditions and probably caught it at church, not from school age grandchildren (she does't have any)).

No I don't work in healthcare. And the 4 who passed away didn't either. Two of these were fathers to young children/families. One family has a parent currently in ICU
Jeschara · 09/08/2020 14:37

The children must go back, why ask this question again OP, you are just being goady.

Drivingdownthe101 · 09/08/2020 14:37

[quote SusanFrimp]@Gobbolino7825 I just don't understand how September is the magic month where it's all safe. The virus cases have been rising recently.[/quote]
So why would December be a magical month in which it it’s all going to be safe?

Parker231 · 09/08/2020 14:38

@SusanFrimp - I’m assuming you or your DH don’t work? How do you manage working parents will manage if they are back at work and the schools aren’t open. Not everyone can work from home and it’s almost impossible to work from home and help with home schooling/online learning.

Original poster
SusanFrimp · 09/08/2020 14:38

@Drivingdownthe101 It should be safer at least!

OP posts:
Drivingdownthe101 · 09/08/2020 14:39

[quote SusanFrimp]@Drivingdownthe101 It should be safer at least![/quote]
Why?

araiwa · 09/08/2020 14:39

I think the uk has become desensitised to our still awful numbers.

Other countries only opened schools after a period of much lower numbers

No point adding more wrong on top of wrong