To think schools should not reopen in Sept?

[SusanFrimp]

I think that schools should not fully reopen in September and instead be partially reopened to some years. It is just not safe enough to reopen yet. I'd say December at the latest for full reopening. If they can't reopen other smaller places, how can they reopen schools with 1000's of kids? AIBU?

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@guilttripjourno 230 positive cases out of a 300 million population. Yeah, so worth keeping children out of education for.

Our entire county has 2 new cases this week. That’s not 2 per 100,000 but two in total.

Why should children be denied an education because of two people?

Plus, If dcs are in class, it will be a great deal easier to track and trace any contacts than if they are off school, mixing with an unlimited, unidentifiable cross section of the community.

I have to admit I am worried about my 2 type 1 diabetic DC especially as my eldest has an hours journey each way on public transport.

But I will be sending them back and hoping for the best. They all know how to Social distance, they all know that it can't come home (I'm high risk and they will be orphans). We haven't been going out or having people in, because of the risks.

All that worries me is that there is now no protection for vulnerable groups, we are just to go out and be exposed. The virus hasn't actually gone anywhere and there is nowhere near enough testing being done for anyone to know how many people have been infected in your area.

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Nobody has taken note of what has happened in Georgia then?

We are walking blindly into an even bigger mess.

@Alabamawhirly1

Glad to see 82% yabu.

If you don't want to send your kid back, then deregister them and home school. Why stop other children getting an much needed education and stop their parents getting back to work.

Which is the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going "la la la, this isn't real".

Nope I want DD back in school in Sept. this A level nightmare has demonstrated why. I don't trust this government to manage my DDs education. They have made a complete balls up!

But the Government have written the guidelines for schools reopening, they wrote the guidelines for schools closing. They were rubbish at that, that is why there was such a discrepancy of provision across schools last term.

Why do you think the guidelines they have put in place for September are going to be any better?

Schools should be teaching online. We don’t ask adults to go into crowded conference rooms, we let them meet via Zoom or Teams. Students and teachers should get the same
consideration.

@Purpleartichoke

Schools should be teaching online. We don’t ask adults to go into crowded conference rooms, we let them meet via Zoom or Teams. Students and teachers should get the same consideration.

What should working parents do?

Online won’t work unless EVERY child has a laptop, WiFi and a suitable place to study. What would happen to those children (mainly primary) whose parents work - where would they go?

@Purpleartichoke speak for yourself. I am still going out to work, as are many, usually those in low paid jobs. We don't all have the luxury of WFH.

That's why have a mixture of online lessons and classroom sessions. People can choose what they would like. Online could be just teacher's recording lesson in the class.

@guilttripjourno

That's why have a mixture of online lessons and classroom sessions. People can choose what they would like. Online could be just teacher's recording lesson in the class.

You would need huge number of additional staff for this. Plus the recording of sessions isn't that easy ...I work at a uni and all my sessions are supposed to be recorded but quite often it doesn't work brilliantly and that's with a really well staffed IT team.

Young people need face to face teaching - online without significant support just isn't sufficient.

What additional staff?
We went on line via free Google meet and hangout.
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Teacher gave lesson and students participated. We could also see what document they were working on and support them as they wrote, dipping in and out for each student.

It was so easy.

@Swelteringmeltering

What additional staff? We went on line via free Google meet and hangout. S Teacher gave lesson and students participated. We could also see what document they were working on and support them as they wrote, dipping in and out for each student.

It was so easy.

To do it properly it needs investment.

Especially if you're expecting teachers to teach in person and online.

It also doesn't solve the problem of what working parents should do with their children 🤷🏼‍♀️

But this is surely an issue with a pandemic, things get disrupted, life doesn't go on as normal, and measures have to be put in place both for health reasons and to try and minimise the disruption.

Childminders can offer supervision for kids needing to school remotely. In areas where the schools have decided to go remote, many businesses are starting to offer to take the kids for the day.

I saw one trampoline place whose business has been decimated by Covid. They are setting up distanced desks for the kids to study during school hours and then the kids will get playtime to cover the rest of the parents work day. Lots of university students are taking the year off so there is a ready workforce of people to watch the kids and help them with work as needed. .

Are schools ready to supply pupils with laptops if their school goes into a local lockdown?

Yeah, I'm not leaving my child with some random unqualified university student who I don't know from Adam.

As for childminders, there aren't nearly enough to cover that many children, not in my local area anyway.

And would the cost be subsidised by the government? I earn £8.75 an hour, I can't afford to pay someone to have DS on a regular basis, summer holidays are enough of a stretch.

Schools need to be back full time, with PPE in place.

Why will they be safer in December

I’m all for ds to return to full time schooling and to get a proper education

As I worked through he did still attend school but still followed his homeschool schedule. It wasn’t particularly a success and he needs the social side of schooling too

Parker ours asked all dp for any old, spare lap tops, computers, smart phones.
They clawed in what they could. I know everyone in our dept had something.
The biggest issue was WiFi.

My screen school didn't even bother to ask dp for old tech and then blamed the gov for only providing 2 lap tops?

@Purpleartichoke

Childminders can offer supervision for kids needing to school remotely. In areas where the schools have decided to go remote, many businesses are starting to offer to take the kids for the day.

I saw one trampoline place whose business has been decimated by Covid. They are setting up distanced desks for the kids to study during school hours and then the kids will get playtime to cover the rest of the parents work day. Lots of university students are taking the year off so there is a ready workforce of people to watch the kids and help them with work as needed. .

There are no childminder places where we live or any trampoline places offering school/childcare ( and that sounds pretty dodgy tbh)