To think Eric Joyce’s sentence is woeful

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He is a violent criminal and paedophile the who has just received an 8 month suspended sentence for downloading an image of the worst kind of abuse to a 12 month old baby. The story has gained little traction in the media or online, and I imagine it’s related to his partner, India Knight who is standing by him, despite having a underage daughter herself who is living with Joyce. Bike people.www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-suffolk-53694012

@southeastdweller

Her connections will keep some of wth details out of the press I'm sure.

Seems like they already have. Nobody high profile apart from Julie Bindel and Samantha Morton have commented on it, and yes the sentence is a shocking travesty of justice. For crying out loud, people still get jailed for refusing to pay their TV licence!

I totally agree. Unfortunately I was deleted earlier in the thread for pointing out the obvious.

@fluffygreenmonsterhoody

He used to be my MP. He’s a hideous piece of work and that sentence is disgraceful.

For all those berating India Knight - imagine she was posting about this in relationships.

Would you have the same lack of compassion then for a woman living with a man like this? Or would you offer support and try to understand?

It’s so depressing that women are always tied up in blame around men’s actions.

I think any women posting that she was allowing a convicted paedophile to live with her vulnerable daughter would be in for a pasting- and rightly so.

The sentence is appalling beyond measure. As for India Knight, I have zero respect for her - which is probably about the same amount of self respect she should have right now.

No one is blaming India for his actions.
Her deleted tweet, however, is awful and as others have said shows she is not worried about the victims here.
I also agree that if India posted in relationships it would be a unanimous vote for LTB and protect your daughter.
From all his previous he's clearly a violent thug and now this.

Seems that she's still with him, according to his barrister.

Oh well. It’s her decision and I’m sure she’s thought long and hard. I’m being kind. My mum used to tell me that there was a type of women who would put ‘her man’ first before anyone else and that included her own children. The was a name for it - sure it wasn’t polite either knowing my mum - anyone who ‘hurt a single hair on a bairns head’ was definitely going to a special part of hell in her opinion. They would also be buried with their hand sticking above ground so everyone could kick it as they went by. Strange woman, my mother...

I am staggered at the laissez faire attitude to child abuse. People describe child abuse images as `child porn’ which downgrades this appalling abuse into something much less – it’s not porn it’s destroying children’s lives.

I’ve no idea why there was minimal reportage of Eric Joyce’s crime, given that a creepy lecherous Tory MP was all over the papers last week – not minimising that, but he was not complicit in the abuse of babies!

India Knight wrote an article about townies moving to the countryside recently and had the gall to write: “The countryside is woefully undiverse. A few, usually older people, hold extraordinarily unevolved views, though they are a minority. But all of that is changing, and changing fast”.

I bet it is luv.

But the fact that this woman considers herself an arbiter of morality is outrageous. You couldn’t make it up. Can you imagine living next door to a child abuser but you being the one with `unevolved views?’

I actually enjoy her columns and books but she is mightily pleased with herself. The last one I read was obviously autobiographical and going on about her fabulous friends carried the immortal line, “I feel so sorry for women who don’t have girlfriends”.

How the mighty have fallen.

Except they haven’t fallen. They are carrying on regardless. It’s bloody disgusting

He still has 16k followers on Twitter.
Child abuse means nothing it would appear.

I had to leave Twitter but has he not had any flak on there at all ?

Petition signed. Unbelievable!

Petition signed. Tried writing a response here, got angry.

The media silence is horrifying.

India Knight's stepfather may be the explanation cry

I suspect she will ‘suffer’ more as a result than he will when jobs dry up and colleagues/ acquaintances become too busy to deal with her. Because the ire is generally reserved for the woman isn’t it? But then - I don’t know her circumstances - she has a child in the home?

Her career seems largely unaffected so far.

She won’t suffer in career terms. Her main gig is with the Times group as a result of nepotism. I imagine sales of her books might suffer.

It’s always been a mystery to me that Joyce would appeal to any woman, he’s a violent alcoholic. This sentence is a joke and in no way reflects the seriousness of the crime. He should have been locked up and left to the mercy of his fellow prisoners.

Maybe not - I can’t imagine working in a place when she walks in.

Julie Burchill has written some fantastic tweets about the silence from her hack colleagues. She's going to be doing an article on it.

It's been kept much quieter in the press than it would have been had his partner not been a noted columnist in a broadsheet.

I am so angry about this case. I like India knight’s writing and own all of her novels but her behaviour over this is unjustifiable. I was assuming she had left him but it now seems that isn’t the case. How can she remain with someone who is happy to watch children being raped? As others have said, if this was anyone else the Twitterati would be up in arms, but in this case there’s total silence. Hypocrites, the lot of them.

Some women do stay - I would assume a chunk of them are there because they are dependant on the man in some way (financial, whatever). I can’t see how she isn’t in a position to say ‘there’s the door’. She can’t kid herself that he is innocent as the court has decided otherwise. All a big misunderstanding or covering up for someone else - or whatever stories he could come up with - sorry, still a big fat no from me.

Could she be waiting for the dust to settle before throwing him out - why would she?

It's going to be v tricky to stay with a 17 year old in the house.
Social services will be involved. What will her ex husband think/do?

@MrsKeats

It's going to be v tricky to stay with a 17 year old in the house. Social services will be involved. What will her ex husband think/do?

They’re too posh and monied for social services to take more than a glance at them, if that. From what I’ve seen of the offences 17 seems a bit on the old side for his tastes.

From what I’ve seen of the offences 17 seems a bit on the old side for his tastes.

That's not the issue, the issue is that India Knight's actions are saying to her daughter that it is acceptable to stay with an accuser.

Can anybody else hear the little voice saying "But I love him" - as said by many women to justify why they stay with/return to an abuser? Is that really something that she wants her daughter to internalise?

He's a despicable individual and she's a spineless fool. She has the money and the wherewithal to leave and isn't. I can only assume that she is putting her love for him above anything else. Pathetic.