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Would you choose your daughter or sister??

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AtLastEarwax · 02/08/2020 12:27

Hi all,

Not sure where to put this but basically 15+ years ago (I was maybe 14/15) I overheard my auntie calling me some awful names to her (then) husband who called me names as well. I've never disclosed what she said to anyone, my hubby, mum etc I will take it to my grave but put it this way, it has scarred me for life.

Anyway in a convo to my mum. I said that my auntie doesn't like me, I know she doesn't because the things she said. The way she acts towards me and stuff. Just a lot of things over the years to do with jewellery, money etc

I wasn't a nice teenager, I am the black sheep so to say..

My mum can be quite selfish and she will never apologise or give a compliment. Whether it's my parenting or things I feel I've been successful at. If she says Thankyou it's within a sentence not direct. She visits every other family member apart from us. She plays this grandma who is here all the time. She's sees the kids once a week if that. My mum said that every other Wednesday she will come up to see us - we live just up a hill from them. I asked if it was a cover up as my grandma has been asking some demanding things of her, just so I knew to back my mums story up and she said no I will actually see you. Gobsmacked is an understatement, I really didn't know what to say. Do I feel she should visit more? Yes, don't play the perfect grandma. We don't have any other family close (as in emotionally close) that's a good one to throw back in my face when she's angry "well you and the children haven't got anyone else but us". She can be hurtful in anger - as can we all but can never acknowledge it or apologise for things she's said. It is quite a rough relationship with my mum. Throughout my first pregnancy she was vile to me, upset me all the time to tears and finally after 4 months I crossed her name off the birthing plan, she didn't care. I asked her why she acted like that and she said she had a bad year that's why she was horrible to me. Second pregnancy she was a bit better but moaned that I was different during pregnancy - apparently your not allowed to have any mood swings or anything in pregnancy. It's a bit of a she loves me but doesn't like me relationship

Anyway in the conversation I said how what my auntie said wasn't very nice. My mum said
"well had you done something to make her say it?"
I said "probably who knows?"
And she said "don't make me choose"

To me I would never say that to my daughter! Perhaps I'm missing something but if my daughter expressed something that had scarred her I would believe it. I will never tell anyone what she said so it's all a bit pointless thinking like this but to even consider choosing??

I would choose my daughter hands down to my sister. I know that sounds awful, I love my sister but my daughter would come first

I'm giving this space in my brain that I really shouldn't but I just wanted to see other people's views on it?

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AtLastEarwax · 02/08/2020 15:57

Some watery tart, Thankyou I have found you helpful, don't really know what lemons problem is

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SomeWateryTart · 02/08/2020 16:05

@AtLastEarwax

Some watery tart, Thankyou I have found you helpful, don't really know what lemons problem is
Glad to hear that and I really hope you're ok xo
SlightlyJaded · 02/08/2020 17:05

I really don't think you need your mum joining you in Budapest OP. Is there any way you can stop this happening? It does sound like she wants to be close to her Grandchildren without any regard for you.

oakleaffy · 02/08/2020 17:28

Re ''abuse''...Abused children tend to 'downplay' it.

If one feels 'Abused' then surely it is abuse.

A very successful professional woman in a 'respected' profession told me that whenever she visited her parents she ''felt like a powerless child again'', with all that that implies.
Sibling rivalry can be alive and well when one is in one's 40's 50's 60's..

Counselling can indeed help one make sense of it.

BadTattoosAndSmellLikeBooze · 02/08/2020 18:32

I do think, if you can, seeing a counsellor IRL might help you work through this

Absolutely this. I think there area lot of things you’re saying that a counsellor would help you unpick. I think it’s virtually impossible to do it yourself and that you would really benefit from some help.

AtLastEarwax · 02/08/2020 20:25

I think I might have to if I can't forget it. Just keeping my family at arms length is the best thing. She rang me earlier (shock bloody horror) 4 times - I was hoovering and so I rang her back. She's been round other people in the family house etc and wanted to tell me about that bull. I just changed the subject and said I am making tea and going to have to go. Which is true

I feel like I haven't over analysed it, plain and simple it was a conversation

Quite proud lol

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SomeWateryTart · 02/08/2020 21:08

Good for you op! Take care of yourself and do try and see someone IRL if you can Flowers

AtLastEarwax · 02/08/2020 23:36

Thankyou I'm not making room for nonsense xxxx

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incognitomum · 03/08/2020 07:25

Well done. Once you begin to realise the mind games you can make the game boring for her.

AtLastEarwax · 03/08/2020 09:59

Yeah like not engaging in ' who said this' etc and I felt as well I didn't need to talk about it. Frankly, I don't care!

I contacted my closest friends. Two have children the others don't. So I'm busy tomorrow with on friend, Wednesday champagne breakfast with the 3 friends who don't have children (we are a little gang!) and Friday play day with my bestest friend. I actually feel like I don't need to see her either. I'm looking forward to seeing my friends children and having me time and a break on Wednesday. It's a good feeling Smile hubby works shifts and is a bit like, where do I fit in? I said 'looking after the kids on Wednesday 😂😂😂'

Xxxxxxxxxxxx

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SomeWateryTart · 03/08/2020 11:17

Ah enjoy op!

Not the same situation, as my dad, I actually get on really well with, but I've also had to extricate myself from some of the extended family. None of mine are truly terrible people or anything, but it was the whole dynamic, as you say, who said what, who did what, who is doing better at something than someone else. I had to take a big step back and focus on my own dcs and friends. I feel so much better as I'm usually around people who actually seem to like me for who I am, if that isn't too much of a cliche.

Best of luck to you xo

SomeWateryTart · 03/08/2020 11:18

@SomeWateryTart

Ah enjoy op!

Not the same situation, as my dad, I actually get on really well with, but I've also had to extricate myself from some of the extended family. None of mine are truly terrible people or anything, but it was the whole dynamic, as you say, who said what, who did what, who is doing better at something than someone else. I had to take a big step back and focus on my own dcs and friends. I feel so much better as I'm usually around people who actually seem to like me for who I am, if that isn't too much of a cliche.

Best of luck to you xo

Sorry, wasn't comparing our dads, more comparing your situation with your mum to mine with my dad, as he is the only surviving parent Flowers. Hope that makes sense xo
Magnetfisher · 03/08/2020 12:47

You do sound like hard work, she shouldn't have to chose.
She will love you no matter what, even if she doesn't really like you. Same with her sister.
If I had to chose saving DD or saving DSis from a fire of course it would be DD and Dsis wouldn't expect any differently. I fact Dsis would probably get to her first...

AtLastEarwax · 03/08/2020 13:15

No I knew what you meant watery

Hoping to have a good laugh all week 😂

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SomeWateryTart · 03/08/2020 13:19

Good for you op. You can start by laughing at all the ridiculous people on MN who can't manage to read a thread the whole way through before commenting hastily Wink.

incognitomum · 05/08/2020 12:08

Hope you're enjoying your time with friends.

dw23 · 05/08/2020 12:18

Your mum sounds like a narcissist 😩 mine is too. Since I had my daughter I've been reading up about NPD. I recommend two books to you : mother's who can't love by Susan Forward and You're not crazy, it's your mother by Danu Morrigan. I hope you manage to find healing. It's so hard having a mother who is not there for you emotionally whilst outwardly playing the perfect mother/grandmother part. Have fun with your friends and try and keep contact to a minimum is my advice. Easier said than done though.

AtLastEarwax · 05/08/2020 23:02

Thankyou. Those books sound good, I'm going to look them up.

I had a good day today, good laughs and drinks and food. Nice break from the kids too

Xxx

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incognitomum · 06/08/2020 21:05

Happy to hear that.

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