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Less than 100 days and counting... (Trump thread #103)

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Roussette · 01/08/2020 07:49

Here we go...

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Roussette · 04/08/2020 20:55

Bruce haha... I bet you are right!
It must be like managing an overgrown toddler!
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Aide 1 to Aide 2 "how about we call this a very important Manual that has been written especially for him (even though it only has 2 sheets of paper in it. Do you think we could try that? The bullet points have stopped working. The pictures are no good any more, he doodles on them. Worth a try?"

Aide 2 "Brilliant idea! I'll print out the his favourite big type on the front
Very Special Private Manual for the President of the United States. Let's give it a go!"

🤣

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boatyardblues · 04/08/2020 21:06

Watching now. If this was a drinking game and China Virus was the bingo word, I’d be absolutely sloshed. He’s a fucking car crash. Loving the interviewer - he’s hilarious.

boatyardblues · 04/08/2020 21:08

The mail in vote bit was hilarious - “your daughter in law Lara did a robocall campaign pushing the mail-in vote for the Republican party!”

TheNorthWestPawsage · 04/08/2020 22:07

Will Vance give us what Mueller couldn't/wouldn't?

Trump’s biggest problem may be closer to home
<a class="break-all" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/08/04/trumps-biggest-problem-may-be-closest-home/#click=t.co/bAOzXJwZup" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/08/04/trumps-biggest-problem-may-be-closest-home/#click=t.co/bAOzXJwZup

Federal criminal prosecution of an ex-president is highly problematic. Even when justified on the merits, it opens the door to retribution by the other side and the criminalization of politics. Moreover, when the country is as polarized as the United States is now, a criminal trial would surely inflame emotions and make the country practically ungovernable. And, as we learned during the Mueller investigation and impeachment, it can be difficult to assemble evidence for actions the president took in office because of executive privilege (the qualified one as opposed to the bogus “absolute” privilege the Supreme Court shot down in July).
However, state prosecution for actions that precede a presidency avoids these pitfalls. And that may well be where we are headed with President Trump.
The New York Times reports: “The Manhattan district attorney’s office suggested on Monday that it has been investigating President Trump and his company for possible bank and insurance fraud, a significantly broader inquiry than the prosecutors have acknowledged in the past.” This is the same investigation which Trump unsuccessfully attempted to thwart by invocation of absolute immunity.
District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr., in a filing to justify the broad scope of the subpoena, let on that the scope of the investigation is correspondingly broad. This is not merely about hush-money payments to adult-film actress Stormy Daniels and to Karen McDougal, a former Playboy model, to keep them quiet about alleged affairs with Trump; the matter could potentially cover years of financial dealings. The Times explains that prosecutors “cited newspaper investigations that concluded the president may have illegally inflated his net worth and the value of his properties to lenders and insurers. . . [and] an article on the congressional testimony of his former lawyer and fixer, Michael D. Cohen, who told lawmakers last year that the president had committed insurance fraud.” Trump denies all wrongdoing (and has assiduously hidden his taxes from view), but a grand jury continues to investigate.

The filing should send panic rushing through the Trump empire. “The serious state crimes by Donald Trump and his enterprises that Cyrus Vance has indicated he is pursuing as Manhattan DA cannot be shielded from prosecution by any invocation of presidential immunity, nor are they beyond the reach of prosecution and punishment by virtue of time,” constitutional scholar Laurence Tribe tells me. “The ongoing pattern of financial fraud and deception quite plausibly establishes an inseparable criminal scheme that prevents the statute of limitations from taking even the earliest instances of felonious conduct by Trump and his co-conspirators off the table.”
On the issue of the statute of limitations, former House impeachment counsel Norman Eisen says, “Statutes of limitation can be held open by a variety of circumstances, such as ongoing conspiracies, concealment and other equitable considerations, although that is not easy to do.” He adds, “Still, if the evidence, for example, demonstrates a single continuous fraud by Trump, it might or might not overcome the normal time limits for prosecution.”
As of now, of course, no indictment has come, and Trump enjoys the presumption of innocence. The grand jury’s work is secret, so we do not know if it is at its beginning, middle or the end. “The question of whether to indict before Election Day — if it is even logistically possible — is an agonizing one. It will be viewed as politicizing the prosecution and criminalizing the election,” cautions Eisen. “If the prosecutors are in fact ready to go, better to do so after the election is settled.” He adds: “Whatever they do, the good news is that if they decide to prosecute, a presidential self-pardon won’t work both because it is unconstitutional and because federal pardons don’t apply to state offenses like these.”
A few points deserve emphasis: First, this news undercuts the notion perpetrated after the Supreme Court’s ruling that it was a partial victory for Trump. Vance will almost certainly get his evidence, and the timeline may be far shorter than some commentators fear. Second, we do not need nor should we want this to be the decisive issue in the election; Trump likely faces a broad repudiation by voters, which is highly preferable to an indictment before the election that Trump could blame for his loss. Finally, the genius of a federal system and an independent judiciary as a block against an executive seeking authoritarian powers has never been more evident — or appreciated.

BruceAndNosh · 05/08/2020 09:11

Re-watching the best / worst bit of the Swan interview (You can't do that! Why not?...) I'm watching Swan's bobbing foot bounce. Once you've seen it as a subliminal 2 finger gesture at Trump, you can't unsee it

Roussette · 05/08/2020 09:28

Love that article and big fan of Swan now!

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Lweji · 05/08/2020 10:10

Trump campaign targeting Spanish speakers, likens Biden to Fidel and Chavez.

Surely nobody will fall for it. It's too ridiculous, isn't it?

thehill.com/latino/510268-trump-spanish-language-ad-equates-progressives-socialists

Lweji · 05/08/2020 10:17

Meanwhile, Biden puts Trump on the spot, sits back and watches.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/04/joe-biden-donald-trump-election-coronavirus-do-your-job

lionheart · 05/08/2020 10:45

Tick Tock.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53633315

'Donald Trump says the government should get a cut from the sale of TikTok's US unit if an American firm buys it.

The US president said he made a demand for a "substantial portion" of the purchase price in a phone call at the weekend with Microsoft's boss.

He also warned he will ban the app, which is owned by China's ByteDance, on 15 September if there is no deal.

ByteDance is under pressure to sell its US business after Mr Trump threatened a crackdown on Chinese tech companies.'

TheSparklyPussycat · 05/08/2020 10:46

I watched Trump yesterday, the 5.30 pm statement. Twice he referred to "underlining conditions".

PerkingFaintly · 05/08/2020 10:52

Surely nobody will fall for it. It's too ridiculous, isn't it?

I thought that about the Brexit bus with the NHS stuff on the side.

If the Biden campaign uses words and explains things; and the Trump campaign uses pictures and music, and steers away from the rational, the Trump campaign will win.

That's how they did it last time. And again, social media allows them to target this stuff exactly at the people whose emotions it will stir, hide it from those it will turn off, and get almost real-time feedback on which adverts are hitting the spot.

Trump's 2016 campaign workers described sending out multiple versions of ads in which they merely changed the colour or font of the "DONATE NOW" text. They could see almost immediately which got the better response, and tweak all their ads to accordingly.

Roussette · 05/08/2020 12:39

Oh my!

Spitting image is coming back with this motley crew!

twitter.com/hewitson10/status/1290910853240365056

I know it's our politicians/advisers/Royalty but I espied Trump and Melania too!

Less than 100 days and counting... (Trump thread #103)
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ShiveringCoyote · 05/08/2020 13:56

Its becoming more apparent that Trump can't read, in my opinion. Theres no shame in it lots of people in their 70s may not be able to read, learning difficulties were not as recognised back then. He did not understand the charts he was given only that America looked good on them.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 05/08/2020 14:03

"Never watched the original will not be watching this either awful programne"

That's ... That's positively TRUMPIAN! If you never watched it, how do you know what it is like?

TheNorthWestPawsage · 05/08/2020 14:08

He's been shown in long lens pics wearing (reading) glasses - so it may be that he's too vain to wear them to read on tv/in public.
Given his age it would be unusual (but not unknown) for him not to need some sight correction. Also ref. the large print prompt cards he's been spotted with in the past.

Grrrpredictivetex · 05/08/2020 14:25

Funny Trump interviewing himself.

twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1290830950851653640?s=21

Grrrpredictivetex · 05/08/2020 14:29

Is it me or has anybody seen Biden being interviewed? All I've seen is Trump, although I'm in UK so possibly it's not been shown here if indeed he has. Is this usual?

Lweji · 05/08/2020 15:35

Biden interviews don't seem to attract as much attention.

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/13/joe-biden-makes-it-clear-that-country-is-ready-big-change/

Lweji · 05/08/2020 15:36

Also

Lweji · 05/08/2020 15:37

sorry

Lweji · 05/08/2020 15:40

But

www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/07/26/well-keep-asking-every-week-chris-wallace-says-biden-not-available-for-interview/

But it could be a Fox issue.

Ps- apologies for multiple posts. My phone isn't helping.

AcrossthePond55 · 05/08/2020 16:22

I think his problem isn't that he's illiterate, it's that he is not used to whatever nonsense he spouts being questioned. He becomes dumbfounded. He's so used to being surrounded by 'yes-people' that when someone has the temerity to say 'no' or 'wtf' he seriously does not know how to respond so he just 'blusters' over them waiting for them to 'get it' and start agreeing with him. An example is when he told Mr Swan "You can't do that" when Swan was quoting a different category of statistic, one that disagreed with the papers he was waving about. The reason Scrotus was so dead serious in that reply was simply because no one 'in his world' ever disagrees with him. Swan was supposed to immediately say "Oh yes, of course". But he didn't. Cue the confusion and bluster.

TheSparklyPussycat · 05/08/2020 16:48

I wonder if anyone has hazarded a guess at what was on those papers. It's clear that on one of them is a bar chart in different colours, the very simple sort that a child might produce when learning about this type of thing. I couldn't make out whether the axes were labelled.