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To be annoyed DH hugged his dad.

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gentlerock · 29/07/2020 18:13

We've spent months being careful, we have a 5 month old baby and I'm vulnerable having mild asthma.

Last week DH Gran passed away suddenly.

Today DH called to see his Dad and told me they hugged as they were both really upset.

Now I completely sympathise with this, really I do, but bare in mind DH grandma spent 3 days in hospital before passing.

DH dad was there every day and the hospital announced yesterday there had been an outbreak on one of their wards affecting 4 staff and 3 patients(although it didn't state which ward so we don't know if was the one DH grandma was on)

I suffer with anxiety already and I'm petrified DD could end up ill or be left without parents.

I really do feel so annoyed with him. AIBU?!

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JimandPam · 30/07/2020 08:08

@gentlerock
I've read this thread and felt I should contribute. I think you've had a bit of a hard time on here with how some of the posts have been worded but I echo others who say you seem caught up in this bubble of anxiety about catching it. You've asked what others do:

I am on the extremely vulnerable list as is my DH. We have a 7month DS and for the first 10 weeks we followed shielding guidance to the letter.

I have had various conversations with my consultant over the pandemic and although we followed the advice to the letter early on, certainly within the last 6 weeks we've made some big strides to form a new 'normal'. My consultant is in agreement of the steps we've taken and believes we will all need to adjust to a new 'normal' as a vaccine is a fair way off so it's about managing risk.

The most important reason for doing this was our DS. At 7 months we've noticed a massive difference in how he interacts with the world and what he takes from being out and about and not limited to our house and just our faces.

We trust our parents: they are careful, don't take unnecessary risks such as meeting lots of people or taking public transport when not needed. They come into our house, wash their hands and interact with our DS. He adores all 4 grandparents and they will often take him on walks. Seeing that relationship blossom since we've decided to do this has been wonderful. We don't, however, let our siblings pick up DS as they have children at school. But we do meet for socially distanced walks.

I meet other new mums for coffee/cake in cafes with outdoors seating. I bring my own straw and sterilising wipes for everything and let DS sit in high chair and snack. I also let DS interact with their babies and he suddenly got the hang or rolling after seeing one of the other babies doing it. When we get home, I wipe the pram down and ensure I've washed my hands.

I've taken DS into some shops including his first go in a trolley. He loved it. He is now used to seeing me in a mask and not scared of it. He waves at other shoppers. I am very careful and again, wipe down the trolley and use alcohol gel on entering and leaving each shop.

I am this afternoon going to a friends for a garden picnic where the babies will probably sit next to each other while we share a slice of cake.

I am not going to kids birthday parties with lots of people in a small space and I'm not yet ready for indoor play areas, swimming or baby classes. I don't wash shopping or wipe down takeaways but we transfer food into plates, put all packaging in the bin and give the surface a quick wipe.

We made the steps above regardless of shielding not finishing until this weekend as both myself and DH were suffering with our MH and we found DS was starting to want to explore more. Watching him develop and take interest in things outside/new locations and see new people has confirmed to me this was the right decision.

It's our choice to manage our risk this way but what I've listed above it what all of my friends and family are doing and I believe this is 'normal' at the moment as people work out how to navigate life with this virus.

I would urge you to start considering taking some of these steps and perhaps sit and chat to your DH about how you slowly ease some of your very strict restrictions.

FlaskMaster · 30/07/2020 08:15

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MyFartWillGoOn · 30/07/2020 08:16

@gentlerock

In my area, since Monday we've had 34 new cases. Population 345,000

I didnt think I was being unreasonable to be concerned and put measures into place to be safe.

So 0.009% of the population in your area have caught this since Monday.

Has the government put your town on lockdown again? I would suggest not.

I like others think your are over analysing every scenario.

It is absolutely not unreasonable to be aware of your actions and risk but I do think you've taken this to the extreme

MyFartWillGoOn · 30/07/2020 08:17

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MrsExpo · 30/07/2020 08:17

YABU ... complete over reaction on your part. Please get some help for your anxiety.

Womencanlift · 30/07/2020 08:19

I have also reported @FlaskMaster. Completely unnecessary comment to someone struggling

Giningit · 30/07/2020 08:22

YABU but I have RTFT and realise you know you are. Glad you have an appointment with the HV. Get them to signpost where you can get help with your anxiety. I have a very close relative with mild asthma. They’d just laugh at the measures you’re taking. Obviously wash your hands etc, take vitamin D daily, use your brown(preventer) inhaler twice a day, make sure you’ve had an asthma check in the last 12mths, use your peak flow meter and more importantly RELAX. Stress is a killer

FruitLoopyLoo · 30/07/2020 08:25

Well I didn't just make this up, at the start of the pandemic so many people on here had posted about things like this and I've done the same thing for months now

I'm not saying people didn't do it. I'm saying there was no official recommendation to do so, it was never in the government guidance that you should wash down your shopping etc... I know people did it but it wasn't ever the official recommendation.

You're being OTT.

Babs709 · 30/07/2020 08:25

Glad you’ve spoken to the HV. I don’t think this is a “what should I be physically doing” question but rather a mindset adjustment. And by that I mean, you need to stop yourself thinking that everything you touch that someone else has will mean you will get covid and die. I think the way you get out of this mindset is to (slowly, however slowly you need to!) start reintroducing aspects of your life that will bring you happiness.

ainsisoisje · 30/07/2020 08:25

I think you are clearly worried and it was an overreaction 34 cases out of a 345,000 is 0.0001% of that group. Also reported @FlaskMaster I don't think that is helpful to anyone.

BeijingBikini · 30/07/2020 08:26

Well I didn't just make this up, at the start of the pandemic so many people on here had posted about things like this and I've done the same thing for months now

So because some paranoid/genuinely shielding people on Mumsnet were taking extreme measures, you decided to do the same even though you have no need to? Some people on MN wash their towels after every use and drive their kids to 10 clubs a week. Are you going to do the same? What if they jumped off a cliff?

I haven't done any of those things apart from a bit more handwashing. I'd take the takeaway and eat the food.

jackstini · 30/07/2020 08:26

@Ponoka7 - yes, but that's not current government advice for now and the OP needs help to move on

sst1234 · 30/07/2020 08:28

This has got to be one of the most unreal, self consumed AIBU questions in a while.

FruitLoopyLoo · 30/07/2020 08:28

@gentlerock

In my area, since Monday we've had 34 new cases. Population 345,000

I didnt think I was being unreasonable to be concerned and put measures into place to be safe.

That is an incredibly small percentage OP.
msflibble · 30/07/2020 08:29

@gentlerock
I'm sorry you've taken such a hammering here. It seems you're open to taking a bit of advice though. As an anxiety sufferer I fully empathise with wanting to minimise risk and with worrying over every tiny thing that happens. When I don't take some sort of treatment I can become very irrational. For your own sanity, go and see the GP or try a natural remedy to help reduce your anxiety, like yoga, meditation or a herbal supplement. There's also a good self-help book called Dare which I have found helpful. These things can help you get some clarity. If your fears are interfering with your enjoyment of life and becoming obsessions, you need some help.

You are a new mother with a tiny baby and an anxiety disorder. You're not a bad person or lacking in empathy. You've just lost some perspective, which is understandable given the current levels of social isolation and constant covid hysteria online and on TV. But you do need to tweak your mindset significantly. My advice would be to hide this thread now, and get to work on finding some help.

EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 30/07/2020 08:32

In my area, since Monday we've had 34 new cases. Population 345,000

so less than 1 in ten thousand
and the 4 hospital staff - how many staff in the hospital?

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 30/07/2020 08:36

It's so sad that we now live in a world where we have over 500 posts on a thread about a man being unreasonable to hug his bereaved and grieving father.

I'm just relieved to see that the majority of posters agree that the importance of retaining our humanity far outweighs the perceived risk of actually catching the virus.

OP - if your DD were an adult rather than a baby but was crying, in pain, distressed, would you really not hug her if you thought she'd been exposed to Covid and thus you ran the risk of catching it from her? You'd really just stand two metres away and watch her cry?

gentlerock · 30/07/2020 08:47

@EveryDayIsADuvetDay

In my area, since Monday we've had 34 new cases. Population 345,000

so less than 1 in ten thousand
and the 4 hospital staff - how many staff in the hospital?

@EveryDayIsADuvetDay 4 staff 2 patients.
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gentlerock · 30/07/2020 08:50

@TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross

It's so sad that we now live in a world where we have over 500 posts on a thread about a man being unreasonable to hug his bereaved and grieving father.

I'm just relieved to see that the majority of posters agree that the importance of retaining our humanity far outweighs the perceived risk of actually catching the virus.

OP - if your DD were an adult rather than a baby but was crying, in pain, distressed, would you really not hug her if you thought she'd been exposed to Covid and thus you ran the risk of catching it from her? You'd really just stand two metres away and watch her cry?

Yes. I would hug her. Of course I would.

I feel like people think I'm some sort of heartless cold bitch after this post.

I'm not. Not at all.

I was devastated when my husbands grandma died.
I completely understand why my husband hugged his father, of course I do.

I'm just quite overwhelmed with the anxiety of Covid and the thought of myself catching it and leaving DD is petrifying.
Even worse if the thought of DD catching it and becoming ill 😔

So if that's come across to people as I'm heartless and cold or a terrible wife then so be it.
But I know I'm not any of those things.

Just a new mum, terrified of being taken away from my baby somehow. 😢

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Ginnyrellas · 30/07/2020 08:55

Op, although I do think you’re being unreasonable. You must be absolutely exhausted a 5 month Old DD plus having this tremendous worry on your shoulders the whole time. Because let’s be frank, this incident involving DH doesn’t look like it’s an isolated thing. This is a build up of many little things your anxiety has caused. Keep filling up the bottle (your mind) with lots of droplets (irrational thoughts of anxiety) eventually it will over flow and everything will come out. Every emotion every worry will come tumbling out because there’s no room left for anything else. I get how you’re feeling. Albeit I’ve worked through the entire pandemic so I’m not scared anymore. But when DD was around your daughters age I completely lost it. I’d convinced myself something was going to happen to her or me So much so I would be afraid to fall asleep. I wasn’t afraid of dying before I became a mum. Please please try and speak to you HV or GP. Things will get better I promise. You will be able to rationalise your thoughts and go on to live a good healthy life.

Aragog · 30/07/2020 08:57

I really do think it would be worth talking to your gp about your anxiety. As I said I found a chat with my consultant really useful.

I AM clinically vulnerable.
I wash my hands regularly and use a mask and anti bac.

I don't quarantine or wash shopping and mail.
We don't wash clothes after each outdoor wear.
We have met friends and family with some SDing but have allowed them to come in, since rules changed, and to use out toilet.
I've hugged my closer relatives (following family deaths)
I've eaten out.
I've been into work - a school - a bit.

In September I will be working in school, teaching 270 children plus staff with no SD or protection. Staying isolated and locked away isn't an option for me as even clinically vulnerable children and staff have to return in 4 weeks time.

Alsohuman · 30/07/2020 08:57

This morning I read that the chances of a child under ten dying of Covid are less than their chance if being struck by lightning. That kind of puts it into perspective. Mortality with Covid rises with age, obesity, being male, being BAME (especially south Asian), if you’re a normal weight white woman under 40, your chance of dying of it is infinitesimal @gentlerock.

Please get some help for your anxiety soon. Your beloved daughter’s life will be awful if you keep on like this. There’s more to living than just being alive.

OverTheRainbow88 · 30/07/2020 08:58

I feel like this thread should come to an end now.

I’m sure OP realises she was unreasonable, even if her intentions were to protect her dd.

This is just going around in circles!!

gingerbeerandlemonade · 30/07/2020 08:58

Yabu. Completely.

gentlerock · 30/07/2020 09:01

@Aragog

I really do think it would be worth talking to your gp about your anxiety. As I said I found a chat with my consultant really useful.

I AM clinically vulnerable.
I wash my hands regularly and use a mask and anti bac.

I don't quarantine or wash shopping and mail.
We don't wash clothes after each outdoor wear.
We have met friends and family with some SDing but have allowed them to come in, since rules changed, and to use out toilet.
I've hugged my closer relatives (following family deaths)
I've eaten out.
I've been into work - a school - a bit.

In September I will be working in school, teaching 270 children plus staff with no SD or protection. Staying isolated and locked away isn't an option for me as even clinically vulnerable children and staff have to return in 4 weeks time.

Thank you. I have messaged my HV.
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