To report someone returning from Spain

[Archie1989]

A friend of my partner has said he has no intention of isolating on his return from Spain. Should I anonymously report them? My mum was on the shielding list and it’s making me quite angry. People who went abroad would know the risks during all of this....and then to refuse to isolate shows such arrogance and disregard for others.

I don’t know this person well and I don’t want to make my partner feel stuck in the middle.

The slippery slope is you deciding it's your right to judge and police these laws. You have helped no one. Some common sense on the risk would do your mental health a world of good I think.

The quarantine rules are explained on landing. Forms are filled in. A sample is checked. Fines are in place. This is the law and how it is managed.

So we should all have the people power to decide which laws we do or don't follow based on whether we agree with them or not? Bit of a slippery slope.

I grew up in apartheid South Africa, so I definitely don't blindly follow all laws.

There's defo a special kind of crazy around on MN today...

@MaxNormal

So we should all have the people power to decide which laws we do or don't follow based on whether we agree with them or not? Bit of a slippery slope.

I grew up in apartheid South Africa, so I definitely don't blindly follow all laws.

Wow excellent point. Not all laws are good ones.

I have no wish to see an increase in cases. I will uphold the law and I'm going nowhere this summer. But I think people need to be honest that reporting someone isn't a matter of public health and safety. It's a much more personal response to being 'right' or having some power.

And the current rules are confusing and inconsistent. I went to a cafe for lunch following a funeral. We were sat close to another table. Definitely less than 1m. But I can't see my family at this range. And can only visit one household within my family at a time? Unless we are in the garden. And then only 6 of us. But I can get on a bus, sit in an office, sit in a bar/restaurant, sit in a busy park or pub garden.

It's not surprising people aren't following the rules when they aren't clear and they don't make sense.

Absolutely true @notcoolmum. I'm so confused about the rules at this point that I'm just doing what I think is best for me and my family. Did I hug my mum when she got her cancer diagnosis? Yes. Did I meet up with my brother and sister-in-law round a non-socially distanced table in the pub? Yes. But I am wearing a mask in shops and will go on holiday to an 'allowed' destination later this year if I'm able to.

The rules have become so over-complicated that many people like myself, who were very compliant in lockdown and hardly left the house, have now reached the 'fuck it' point in this whole situation because the government are making no sense whatsoever, and in many cases are not following their own rules. Quite frankly I cannot be arsed any more.

@Ballerinashoes there is currently a 14 day incubation period, so all because he gets a negative test when he gets back doesn't mean he isn't incubating the virus.

Sorry to hear about your mum's diagnosis @chocolatesaltyballs22 - huh was most definitely needed. I'm back to hugging family. I'm pleased to now be in a support bubble with my BF. Looking forward to my kids being able to have a more normal life back at school and college in September.

Thankyou @notcoolmum. Also looking forward to more normal life here. This year has been utterly shit for many.

@Notcoolmum

Bit that Is the point isn't it windsurfer. What you have done makes no sense when the borders between England and Scotland are open. People could be travelling into Scotland from Leicester or another hotspot. So your desire to report someone isn't a matter of public safety. It's because you are angry they haven't followed the rules. Even when the rules are inconsistent.

Absolutely!

Under 'the rules', too, you can use public transport on the way back to where you isolate, the person(s) you live with who have not travelled are at liberty to do as they please, the list of people who are exempt is incredibly long.

It's a joke and posturing by the government to wag the dog and whip up the wannabe Big Brother hurrahs.

Even the social distancing 'rules' are inconsistent. It's 2m here. But in Schiphol Airport, it's 1.5m. In the US, it's 6ft. What gives? It's entirely inconsistent.

@Notcoolmum

The slippery slope is you deciding it's your right to judge and police these laws. You have helped no one. Some common sense on the risk would do your mental health a world of good I think.

The quarantine rules are explained on landing. Forms are filled in. A sample is checked. Fines are in place. This is the law and how it is managed.

This.

My husband was sent away to Spain last week for work, he is due back next week and his work have said they will arrange for him to be tested, so he just needs to quarantine until he gets his test results back.

Not wishing to appear my usual awkward self but is that actually an approved protocol in the UK?

I'm sure a lot of people would be interested if it was..

ineedaholidaynow notimagain apparently so. According to his work they have checked and have been told if the test comes back negative he can go to work but has to self isolate until the results come back

@WindSurfer37’s actions have repelled me on this thread. You sound utterly vile and so obviously take great pleasure in your actions of desperately trying to turn your friend in to the authorities. I think it was you who made the analogy of a drunk driver and a traveller returning from Spain. A drunk is clearly drunk and highly likely to have impaired driving skills, therefore likely to have some kind of accident. A traveller coming back from Spain doesn’t clearly have Covid! They are unlikely to in the vast majority of cases. Poor analogy. Your curtain twitching and treachery is repugnant.

Just to clarify, at no point did I say this was a friend...

What's your opinion on people who have 2 drinks and then get behind the wheel? Thinking "I'm okay, I feel fine" but who are still above the limit?

Agree Boogie. Windsurfer sounds absolutely horrible. Even reading her weird post about pestering the police and going to the MP (?!?) gave me the utter creeps. You are so literal. Just because a person has been to Spain does not mean they automatically have it.

Would people be happy if someone blatantly disregards the quarantine rules and comes into a school then has a positive test resulting in a whole year group/school having to self isolate for 2 weeks?

@ineedaholidaynow

Would people be happy if someone blatantly disregards the quarantine rules and comes into a school then has a positive test resulting in a whole year group/school having to self isolate for 2 weeks?

Nobody’s going to school until September.

Unless you are in Scotland @Alsohuman

To all the people criticising Windsurfer37 - perhaps this poster has less tolerance than others concerning people flouting quarantine, due to the fact that he/she has lost 3 people to the virus. I wouldn't necessarily report someone for flouting the rules on quarantine, but I don't blame anyone for reporting it, especially someone who has lost several people to Covid. Still, it's probably a waste of time, as I doubt the authorities will do much about it.

@MsTSwift

I would not want to be in windsurfers head. That was a weird read. What is wrong with you?

Windsurfer has said she has lost three people to the virus.

I said much earlier on that I wouldn't report someone but I do understand how people who would do that feel, if someone close to them has died from Coronavirus, never mind three people. It would alter your perspective I think.

What I do not understand is why people are going on non essential overseas trips at the moment and, if they do insist on going, why they object to quarantine. They will just be at home for a fortnight and aren't most of us used to that by now? Two weeks soon passes.

If you're not being paid for that fortnight, and can't afford to do without two weeks' salary, then don't go abroad.

I think the OP should be able to report if they want to however I find the whole idea of quarantine a bit daft as some people don't even live close to their nearest airport (us for example) and it wouldn't be possible to have travelled straight home before the 14 day quarantine started as we would need to stay overnight on return and no one where we stopped would know we had travelled but us.

Fortunately we are in the process of moving our holiday dates but if we couldn't we probably would have still gone (to a very low risk Spanish island which we booked exactly a year ago) if we couldn't move the dates. We only holiday every few years and would not be prepared to write the money off. I don't personally know many who could afford to to be honest.

Windsurfer is getting a hard time on here. She has lost 3 people to the virus, that will change someone's perspective.

Yes that is very sad but her behaviour was vindictive and extremely strange.