To report someone returning from Spain

[Archie1989]

A friend of my partner has said he has no intention of isolating on his return from Spain. Should I anonymously report them? My mum was on the shielding list and it’s making me quite angry. People who went abroad would know the risks during all of this....and then to refuse to isolate shows such arrogance and disregard for others.

I don’t know this person well and I don’t want to make my partner feel stuck in the middle.

@Mydogisthebestest

Shall I go and copy where you said I shouldn’t get on a bus if you were there?

Where’s your proof I advocated for you to be put out of your job or said you should buy your own shield or ppe?

On the thread

Good to see yet another CV thread has become a @Hearhoovesthinkzebras stage again!!

Jeez!!

@doityourselfnow

Good to see yet another CV thread has become a *@Hearhoovesthinkzebras* stage again!!

Jeez!!

I've posted a few comments on here.

The rest have been in answer to another poster dragging another thread onto this one.

Interesting that you aren't reprimanding them for turning this into s thread about another thread.

Eurgh would hate to be the sort of person that does this - Stasi curtain twitchers come to mind.

Also good luck with anyone giving a shit my parents car was vandalised to the point it was written off and the police couldn’t have been less interested. So you might be getting all excited for nothing 🙄

No I'm not taking about TAAT, I'm talking about every single CV thread you spend hours on talking about yourself, knowing better than everyone else, it's getting really boring. @Hearhoovesthinkzebras

I don't think I'm the only one to notice it?

You must spend your entire days studying CV, trawling MN for CV threads. I suggest you focus on something else to take your mind off it.

So @Hearhoovesthinkzebras what do you want me to do?

I’ve said I’d report the people of they actually didn’t abide by the law.

I’ve said I won’t go on buses.

I’ve said it’s awful that your employer is so unsupportive and that you should ask them to provide you ppe.

I am ALLOWED to go out. I am legally allowed to go into shops and use the disabled seat on a bus.

I have done absolutely EVERYTHING I can. I haven’t even seen my partner. Not even once. You’ve seen yours, I haven’t even seen mine nor my eldest son. Not at all. Not once.

My hands are cut to shreds with sanitising and washing. I’m hardly out the door and if I have to go out I’m paranoid about sanitising and I go out as little as possible.

I use my own car, I buy fresh bags every time so I’m not taking anything from my home. Despite the additional cost to me.

Why should your rights trump mine? What more do you want from me?

I can’t wear a mask. I was raped. Repeatedly. And had my mouth and nose covered. It sets me to a complete panic attack. I am trying my best to get used to it by trying different types of coverings but so far it’s not working.

There are things you can do, but are refusing to even try. Like ppe. Like a screen. Like a visor. Like turning away Ona bloody bus.

Why do I have to try all this stuff that is so distressing for me and you don’t?

I’ve paid for fucking masks I can’t bloody wear to try them. I’ve paid for a ducking visor to try and I can’t tolerate that. I’ve paid for bloody bandanas.

If I have to do that why don’t you?

@Mydogisthebestest

So *@Hearhoovesthinkzebras* what do you want me to do?

I’ve said I’d report the people of they actually didn’t abide by the law.

I’ve said I won’t go on buses.

I’ve said it’s awful that your employer is so unsupportive and that you should ask them to provide you ppe.

I am ALLOWED to go out. I am legally allowed to go into shops and use the disabled seat on a bus.

I have done absolutely EVERYTHING I can. I haven’t even seen my partner. Not even once. You’ve seen yours, I haven’t even seen mine nor my eldest son. Not at all. Not once.

My hands are cut to shreds with sanitising and washing. I’m hardly out the door and if I have to go out I’m paranoid about sanitising and I go out as little as possible.

I use my own car, I buy fresh bags every time so I’m not taking anything from my home. Despite the additional cost to me.

Why should your rights trump mine? What more do you want from me?

I can’t wear a mask. I was raped. Repeatedly. And had my mouth and nose covered. It sets me to a complete panic attack. I am trying my best to get used to it by trying different types of coverings but so far it’s not working.

There are things you can do, but are refusing to even try. Like ppe. Like a screen. Like a visor. Like turning away Ona bloody bus.

Why do I have to try all this stuff that is so distressing for me and you don’t?

Yes, I have seen my husband because I live in the same house but I don't sleep in the same bed, sit in the same room or eat with him.

I didn't see either of my children from March until my DD came home from university at end of June. I missed her 21st birthday. I had to live with knowing that she was at uni, on her own because it wasn't safe for her to come home. I still haven't seen my son. I haven't seen my parents.

And no, you don't get to tell me to wear layer upon layer of PPE in order to protect myself from other people who aren't wearing any - that's the highest form of hypocrisy.

I said on the other thread that I have breathing difficulties - my oxygen sats are 90% just sitting doing nothing (should be 98%+ and usually you would be taken to hospital at 93% or thereabouts). I'm breathless even at rest. I retain carbon dioxide. I wear a mask but it's not particularly comfortable to do so and I'm having respiratory physio to help me get used to feelings of air hunger. So don't tell me to wear not only a mask but also a face shield too just to mitigate against people who aren't wearing a mask.

I'm not responding to you any further now so don't bother keep tagging me.

@Mydogisthebestest

I’ve paid for fucking masks I can’t bloody wear to try them. I’ve paid for a ducking visor to try and I can’t tolerate that. I’ve paid for bloody bandanas.

If I have to do that why don’t you?

Why don't I try what? Wearing a mask? I am.

What are you talking about?

I’m not telling you to do anything. I’m saying. You have to take responsibility for your own risk. Why do you expect so much of me when I can’t and I am doing my best?

You are actually so self centred and unempathetic it’s impossible to communicate with you.

You have needled and needled me for days and days until I have ended up saying something I didn’t want to reveal. And you know exactly what you’re doing. It’s like you just don’t care about anyone else’s feelings or even their rights.

I do not understand why you do this.

@Mydogisthebestest leave @Hearhoovesthinkzebras you're never going to stop her talking about her and how it's everyone's fault that she is in her position.

Even here she says her daughter couldn't come back from uni. Well she could've self isolated for 14 days and then returned to the family home. She didn't have to stay until the end of June, what miraculously changed then.

I'm sorry for what you've been through and ended up voicing, that's awful.

For what it's worth I also think everyone needs to look after themselves, you have to risk assess for yourself.

Take care

Many countries not even on the ‘safe’ list are so much safer than the U.K.! Portugal for example have tested 78% of the population compared to the 18% in the U.K. Therefore their numbers will look higher but all it is is they are handling it better, masks have been there for weeks, hand wash compulsory, etc.
Flights have also been proven to be a very low risk.
It seems to me to be politics.
I am in Portugal, I will be quarantining for 2 weeks when I get home but it’s a bit of a nonsense when the Algarve have had 15 deaths in the whole pandemic.

She didn't have to stay until the end of June, what miraculously changed then.

Her tenancy expired. It wasn't possible for her to come home before that because someone would had to have gone to get her (during lockdown), moved her back and then she would have been stuck in here with us following the oppressive shielding rules.

As for Mydog I don't see what I've done to you. You started attacking me on this thread entirely out of nowhere. You were the one who started referring to an entirely different thread and accusing me of saying things that I didn't say. No one has forced you to say anything. You've accused me of things and I've replied. I haven't told you to do anything or not do anything. I have literally responded directly to what you said to me.

Please just don't address me at all.

Her tenancy expired. It wasn't possible for her to come home before that because someone would had to have gone to get her (during lockdown), moved her back and then she would have been stuck in here with us following the oppressive shielding rules.

But someone could've gone and got her, like your DH?

And she could've been stuck in with you....

But she didn't want too!

And what's the point you are making?

The poster I was responding to was complaining that she hasn't seen her son - but she isn't shielding so could see her son.

I'm shielding which makes it more difficult for people living in the house with me. If you've got a big enough house then maybe it's not so difficult eg separate bathrooms, living space then ists still restrictive but not as bad as sharing one bathroom, one living room. Neither I nor my DD really wanted to have to be confined to a bedroom so it was more practical for her to stay there and at least have some space.

You Don’t know whether my son is shielding or otherwise unable to visit due to his job do you. You didn’t ask. And I’m most certainly not telling you.

Well this thread got derailed!! 😳

@Notcoolmum

Well this thread got derailed!! 😳

That's because a certain poster always comes on and merails EVERY thread she's one. Every.single.one.

Hooves why don't you try taking a deep breath and saying to Mydogisthebestest that you're really sorry for the extreme trauma she has gone through. Or do you literally find it impossible to empathise with anyone else?

Other European countries have made much more sensible decisions regarding the increased cases in Spain

Oh yes massively sensible and now we seeing huge spikes! Spain now has triple the UK's infection rate. That all sounds really sensible to me, not.

I assume your post is a joke or send in jest or you haven't been paying attention to the updates notcool

*sent

@madbirdlady22

Other European countries have made much more sensible decisions regarding the increased cases in Spain

Oh yes massively sensible and now we seeing huge spikes! Spain now has triple the UK's infection rate. That all sounds really sensible to me, not.

I assume your post is a joke or send in jest or you haven't been paying attention to the updates notcool

It seems to me that the pp was talking about apples and you're talking about bananas.

It was about measures applied to travellers from Spain and whether they went from badly or not badly affected areas.

You seem to be talking about measures applied in Spain.
Very confusing.

Can you please explain better what you meant?

I see its business as usual here

@MaxNormal

Hooves why don't you try taking a deep breath and saying to Mydogisthebestest that you're really sorry for the extreme trauma she has gone through. Or do you literally find it impossible to empathise with anyone else?

I posted a comment on this thread and then immediately Mydog started ranting and raving at me, dragging in points from an entirely different thread (which she twisted and misrepresented) and she did it multiple times.

Funny how her accusation that I made horrible comments about her relationship never got mentioned again after I posted what was actually said.

Sorry, but she started this on this thread by attacking me completely out of the blue and then accusing me, repeatedly, of saying things I didn't say. Why should I just ignore that?

No one asked her to divulge information about herself, it wasn't relevant to the discussion at all. She chose to post it and then blamed me for her saying it - quite how it was my fault I have no idea but of course I have every sympathy for her and what happened to her was terrible.

lweji Gladly. Other countries are not making sensible decisions regarding Spain, because they are still allowing thousands of travellers to go there - knowing that the numbers are increasing at a frightening rate. We can also see the same being replicated in other European countries, so how is that sensible?!