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Took my mask off on the aeroplane AIBU

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Tsubasa1 · 23/07/2020 16:30

I was on a 5-hour flight recently alone with my two kids under 3. I once every few years might suffer from travel sickness and unfortunately on this day it was the worst I've ever had. I believe it may have been caused by having to wear the mask on the aeroplane. I used 20+ sickbags and felt better during the last hour (vomited for 4 hours, 5th hour was better).
I felt really bad but after I started vomiting I couldn't physically put my mask on because I couldn't breath and it made me gag. The air stewards were furiously coming and telling me to put my mask on every 5-10 mins. I had tears in my eyes during all of this and to be honest I can't comprehend how little compassion they had. They kept coming until I firmly said I would be putting my mask on when I felt better. I was keeping my distance from everyone and had no one sitting in front of me, behind or next to me (apart from my children). I didn't have a fever and it had I had been checked before boarding the plane. AIBU to think there was no reason to harrass me while I was throwing up with my face in a bag? Are you scared of people who don't wear masks? Would you go up to someone ill and tell them to put their mask on?

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vlnr77yac · 25/07/2020 14:56

Tens of airline staff have died from covid 19 and you're all shock horror that they went insane?? You're very lucky the pilot didn't emergency land the plane to exit you.

Covid is an aerosolised virus and someone vomiting for 5 hours is an extremely serious risk to every single passenger on board.

What covid is exposing is that either we all embrace what's best for the greatest good OR we let individuals keep pushing singular rights and the rest of us all will surely pay the price.

JustDoingMe · 25/07/2020 15:53

You poor thing...!
Inhaling your own vomit can be very dangerous so I do not see how you have you could have worn a mask.
Common sense and compassion seemed to be lacking from the flight crew on this occasion.

Ikeasucks · 25/07/2020 16:03

People are on a closed space like a plane, using the loos, all touching the same time things - not against using masks but it often seems inconsistent. Masks in shops but not in pubs and restaurants

alwayslosing · 25/07/2020 17:20

@vlnr77yac 😂😂 love this ... I'm sure the pilot had nothing else better to do than get sacked for landing the plane somewhere other than the rightful destination.

Emergency landing a plane due to a vomiting passenger! I hope there aren't many people out there with your common sense 😱😂

nonamesleftatall · 25/07/2020 17:41

I can’t imagine what the mist have been like for you.

I imagine a lot of the people who are commenting haven’t flown during the pandemic. Airlines are still selling food and drinks (including alcohol) on board. I think if people are allowed to eat and drink and flight operators are not leaving spaces between seats it’s a bit odd to harass an unwell woman on her own with two children. I learn more and more each day that people lack compassion.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 25/07/2020 17:50

@Tsubasa1

Thanks *@PablosHoney* On aeroplanes *@Gwenhwyfar* two people are seated on each row of three seats. One is allowed to eat and drink and then the other. They decide who goes first and take turns.
@nonamesleftatall

According to op the airline had left plenty of spaces and one person is allowed to eat and then the other, presumably taking it in turns to remove their masks.

notimagain · 25/07/2020 18:33

Emergency landing a plane due to a vomiting passenger I hope there aren't many people out there with your common sense

Given the OP says she used 20+ sick bags and vomited for 4 hrs a diversion may well have been considered a possibility, albeit slight.

It certainly might have been something worth one of the pilots (plural) running past the airline's medical advisors ( via satphone or some other means of comms), especially in the current climate, rather than assuming it was just travel sickness and just pressing on to destination.

mathanxiety · 25/07/2020 19:20

People are on a closed space like a plane, using the loos, all touching the same time things - not against using masks but it often seems inconsistent. Masks in shops but not in pubs and restaurants

@Ikeasucks

Why do people believe that what is allowed in the UK is the rule for the rest of the world and all its airlines? It's a weird parochialism.

The pubs and restaurants thing is only in the UK, not on Turkish Airlines.

All passengers are required to wear a mask at all times and to eat in turns. All passengers are required to change their masks every four hours and all passengers boarding are given a free mask and anti-bac wipes. On flights lasting more than four hours, all passengers are also given hand sanitiser.

mathanxiety · 25/07/2020 19:26

@Drivingdownthe101

You are wrong about Spain placing the boosting of tourism above all other interests.

Portugal and Greece are the only two EU countries relatively enthusiastic about tourism. Both of those countries dealt very well with covid and have did not see the decimation that Spain and Italy saw.

Spain, Germany, Italy, and France are all lukewarm.

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53222356

It's possible your relatives are wrongly assuming that their business interests coincide with the interests of the country at large.

mathanxiety · 25/07/2020 19:31

I’m not sure how that is relevant to the fact that the tourist boards from the countries listed are actively targeting UK citizens to encourage us to take our holidays there? I saw one just yesterday that said ‘we’ll look after your safety, you look after your enjoyment’ or something along those lines

@Drivingdownthe101
So you saw an ad that has convinced you that the EU across the board is desperate for the ££££ of British tourists, and therefore you have decided to ignore facts reported on a reputable news site?

This smacks of the Brexit belief that the EU needs the UK more then the UK needs the EU.

vlnr77yac · 25/07/2020 19:39

Emergency landing a plane due to a vomiting passenger! I hope there aren't many people out there with your common sense 😱😂

Absolutely this person shouldn't have been allowed to fly vomiting for 5hrs non stop (her words) during an airbourne pandemic. She knew she had airsickness.

Airline staff are not our clean-up maids why should they AND the poor passengers around you tolerate this from you. Delta has 500 staff with covid19 - 10 dead and counting. They're people's wives, fathers, children too.

www.newsweek.com/500-delta-airline-staff-test-positive-coronavirus-10-dead-1513016

alwayslosing · 25/07/2020 20:12

@vlnr77yac she didn't know she was going to be sick. No they are not our maids never said that but they are used to vomiting passengers.
If OP didn't show any signs of illness before her flight I don't blame her for boarding it.
She couldn't have known she was going to be sick. She mentioned it's not a regular occurrence therefore she couldn't have anticipated it.
Cabin crew and pilots know better how to proceed in these situations and they concluded a detour is not required,
Let's leave it at that.

mathanxiety · 25/07/2020 20:31

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53539015
19 minutes ago

Coronavirus: Spain drives fears of European 'second wave'
Spain is taking new measures to cut a spike in coronavirus cases, amid fears of a more widespread "second wave".

Catalonia has closed its nightlife for two weeks but cities outside the north-eastern region are also seeing a surge.

The UK says all returning from Spain must self-isolate. Norway has similar rules and France has a travel warning.

France and Germany have also both seen new cases rise, as nations grapple between staving off fresh outbreaks and reopening economies.

@Drivingdownthe101

mathanxiety · 25/07/2020 20:32

@alwayslosing, she mentioned it was an occasional occurrence and therefore she could in fact have anticipated it and prevented it.

alwayslosing · 25/07/2020 20:52

No she wouldn't have been able to prevent it. She didn't expect to be sick. Why would she?

I once had car sick. Doesn't happen every time therefore I don't jump in a car thinking I am going to be sick...better do something about it..

Tubs11 · 25/07/2020 21:41

Oh no, hope this was on the return flight home and not outbound. I guess they're fearful of getting the virus or assuming you had the virus perhaps. Fair play for getting on a flight with smallies, UK holidays for us this year as no way would I be able to entertain them whilst wearing masks.

mathanxiety · 26/07/2020 05:44

She would have expected to suffer travel sickness because she was traveling, @alwayslosing.

Traveling is what causes travel sickness.
Travel sickness medication is what prevents travel sickness.

What you do on your own in your own car is up to you, and your example of winging it is neither here nor there.

This woman was planning a long trip in a plane with many other passengers aboard.

SantaClaritaDiet · 26/07/2020 08:20

Good grief, some posters are VERY invested in this thread and the OP!
Any particular reason to be so angry and relentlessly snarky about it?

PeanutButterKid · 26/07/2020 09:54

MathAnxiety is often harsh & unkind, ime, doesn't do sympathy or empathy.

Ferret27 · 26/07/2020 10:02

They could have shown more empathy ...I’d rather you were able to stop being sick if I were sitting near to you... I think airstaff are learning as they go sadly you were probably their first example of how to cope with a vomiting passenger.

NoWordForFluffy · 26/07/2020 10:12

@PeanutButterKid

MathAnxiety is often harsh & unkind, ime, doesn't do sympathy or empathy.
And often twists circumstances to fit their own agenda.
Haenow · 26/07/2020 11:30

@SantaClaritaDiet

Good grief, some posters are VERY invested in this thread and the OP! Any particular reason to be so angry and relentlessly snarky about it?
I know, right?! Let’s be honest, the entire situation wasn’t ideal but at no point did the poor OP actually want to be vomiting on a flight with sole care of small children. She did the best she could in a bad situation. I’m sure the cabin crew were anxious but unfortunately, by the time OP was spewing her guts up, it was probably too late to take other precautions. I feel for OP and the crew. She really doesn’t deserved to be ripped apart.
notimagain · 26/07/2020 12:16

I think airstaff are learning as they go sadly you were probably their first example of how to cope with a vomiting passenger.

Hmm I'd suggest it's highly unlikely none of the cabin crew had ever encountered a vomiting passenger before.

FWIW they also usually have had first aid training as part of basic/recurrent training, in addition to written guidance on required protocols in current circumstances.

PablosHoney · 26/07/2020 12:18

The OP left years ago 😂😂

wildchild554 · 28/07/2020 15:26

YANBU I suffer travel sickness too, can't tell when I'm going to get it, mines usually buses, cars and trains, most the time I'm OK sometimes I'm not, luckily I'm exempt from the mask rules anyway due to breathing issues, I am thinking of trying to wear one still in enclosed spaces but will have to keep pulling it down when I go dizzy. But how anyone can think you should be wearing a mask whilst vomitting so much is plain stupid. You can't control when its going come out when you get started and need keep your vomit bag ready when it starts, or at least thats my experience of travel sickness so your mask would have ended up plastered in it anyway and unusable so how would you have been able to wear it after you coated it in vomit. Would be better to wait till the vomitting had stopped. Just common sense really lol.

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