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Took my mask off on the aeroplane AIBU

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Tsubasa1 · 23/07/2020 16:30

I was on a 5-hour flight recently alone with my two kids under 3. I once every few years might suffer from travel sickness and unfortunately on this day it was the worst I've ever had. I believe it may have been caused by having to wear the mask on the aeroplane. I used 20+ sickbags and felt better during the last hour (vomited for 4 hours, 5th hour was better).
I felt really bad but after I started vomiting I couldn't physically put my mask on because I couldn't breath and it made me gag. The air stewards were furiously coming and telling me to put my mask on every 5-10 mins. I had tears in my eyes during all of this and to be honest I can't comprehend how little compassion they had. They kept coming until I firmly said I would be putting my mask on when I felt better. I was keeping my distance from everyone and had no one sitting in front of me, behind or next to me (apart from my children). I didn't have a fever and it had I had been checked before boarding the plane. AIBU to think there was no reason to harrass me while I was throwing up with my face in a bag? Are you scared of people who don't wear masks? Would you go up to someone ill and tell them to put their mask on?

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Littlebelina · 23/07/2020 21:36

@Pertella

Ugh. Lockdown cunts are now mask cuts.

I was travel sick once about 30 years ago. Maybe I should fashion some kind of nosebag style covering for my nose and mouth on the off-chance I'll need to vomit on the plane next week Hmm

Best just wear one all the time. You never know, walking might set you off. You can't be too careful.

Seriously though, what is the statue of limitations on travel sickness? I last had it 18 years ago. Should I take anti emetics (which used to make me vomit) everytime I get into a car in case I'm stricken again and I make the person in the next car uncomfortable

Pobblebonk · 23/07/2020 21:37

@Lucindainthesky

The rules are you wear a mask on a plane now. If you have several small children and a known problem with travel sickness then perhaps it's not the best time to fly.
No, those really aren't the rules. There are a number of exemptions, and OP's situation clearly falls within them.

It's extraordinary how people who don't know understand the rules come on here so confidently to broadcast that fact. And since when were two children "several"?

Ketchup90 · 23/07/2020 21:37

Why would anyone want to fly in the middle of a pandemic? You couldn’t pay me to.

Drivingdownthe101 · 23/07/2020 21:38

I was travel sick once on a coach trip to London when I was 13. Vommed up a packet of pickled onion monster munch.
Don’t know whether I should be taking anti sickness tablets every time I go on public transport, or just avoid monster munch 🤷🏻‍♀️

PablosHoney · 23/07/2020 21:38

Trying to get home now they can? Seeing relatives? Funerals?

Drivingdownthe101 · 23/07/2020 21:39

@Ketchup90

Why would anyone want to fly in the middle of a pandemic? You couldn’t pay me to.
Pretty sure no one is offering to, so everyone’s happy.
MaxNormal · 23/07/2020 21:42

You know what, even if OP had been travelling for a holiday, it's a perfectly legal thing to do. Why have people started making up rules and laws that don't actually exist as some stick to beat their fellow humans with?

Ketchup90 · 23/07/2020 21:42

Talk about taking it literally. I simply don’t understand the want asides from returning home.

Drivingdownthe101 · 23/07/2020 21:43

@Ketchup90

Talk about taking it literally. I simply don’t understand the want asides from returning home.
You don’t have to understand. I’m sure the OP had her reasons.
TheGreatWave · 23/07/2020 21:43

@Ketchup90

Why would anyone want to fly in the middle of a pandemic? You couldn’t pay me to.
I wouldn't want to fly at any time, can still have sympathy with those that do.
itsgettingweird · 23/07/2020 21:45

@PenelopePitstop49

This is MN.

You're going to be told you're highly irresponsible, have probably infected 2030309495953 people with Covid for not wearing a mask while puking, and that the stewardesses should have pushed you out the door mid flight for not wearing a Government regulation mask. And you shouldn't have been travelling in a pandemic because we're all going to die and you should be staying at home for the next 15 years minimum.

Hmm

You couldn't help it. People are just arseholes at times Flowers

Grin Great summing up!

You can't help being sick. If cabin crew were that concerned they should have made him stay in the toilet for the journey and contain it.

I once also threw up an entire plane journey. Fine before and fine after landing. A lovely man in the row behind me watched ds as I ran back and forth to loo and said he'd once had the same. Apparently it's fairly common and possibly related to ears and pressure.

IAintentDead · 23/07/2020 21:51

@CottonSock

Yanbu about the mask. But unreasonable to travel with a toddler and a baby when you have travel sickness so badly you must not have been able to care for them. The older one must have been worried. Medication or a second person needed. Or botj for the sake of other passengers.
She isn't normally travel sick and on the odd occasion she has been it was nothing like as bad as this. Surely you read the OP before you post.

And despite all the crap on here. She did manage to care for her kids - otherwise this post wouldn't exist.

Pertella · 23/07/2020 21:55

@MaxNormal

You know what, even if OP had been travelling for a holiday, it's a perfectly legal thing to do. Why have people started making up rules and laws that don't actually exist as some stick to beat their fellow humans with?
Because they can't make up rules about lockdown anymore and so they need something else to make their sad little lives have purpose.
TheFirstRuleOfAIBUClub · 23/07/2020 22:02

"I wonder what would people with such extreme views do if someone has a medical emergency and needs some assistance in the street (somebody choking for example)? Let them die just in case they had Coronavirus? I wouldn't be surprised, the world has gone mad!"

@piscis I actually genuinely wondered this the other day. It's not a theory I really want to test in RL, but rest assured if it happens (epileptic) I will come back and let MNers know! I can actually imagine people walking past and not getting involved, specially if there is a mask involved.

Luckily I am prepared. Of course I know from this thread in advance if this happens, I will have been selfish going to the shops - even worse as it was probably for an unnecessary item - stupid for failing to foresee this might happen, irresponsible to cause my DC any discomfort through my selfish action of becoming ill and clearly I need to get a grip for doing anything it anyway and expecting sympathy in the middle of a global pandemic.

And that's before we even get to the Taking Off of The Mask...Certainly I would definitely BU to remove said mask and aerosolise all over other people.

But maybe MNers will think it's to remove a mask when someone is having a seizure? But vomiting isn't a good enough reason. Anyway it depends on the reason why you are in the place you are in and whether random MNers deem your reason good enough.

I think. I'm not sure.

RobinHobb · 23/07/2020 22:10

Jeez have people completely lost their minds!!! Do you all really think like this in real life?
Here is a mum with 2 kids under 3, vomiting away and all you can think about is her mask and how you'd be at risk?! Oh my god. Most of you are probably young healthy women with no underlying conditions who'd actually fine anyway if you got "it" - I mean Christ it's not Ebola.
And to other posters saying OP should have known and taken pills, maybe you shouldn't be travelling if you're so terrified of getting sick.
I cannot believe this lack of compassion - I swear to god this is becoming a nation of hypochondriacs.

Lovely1a2b3c · 23/07/2020 22:24

Hearhoovesthinkzebras Thu 23-Jul-20 17:11:15

It's amazing how compassion must only travel one way.

How about op showing some compassion and consideration to fellow passengers by taking an anti emetic in order to prevent travel sickness? How about everyone showing some compassion to the fellow passengers and crew who have potentially been exposed to either Covid or some other infection? So, once she was being a sick I guess there was nothing to be done, other than everyone else just having to put up with it but it wasn't unavoidable was it? She could have taken medication to prevent it.

I agree with this. I do feel sorry for you OP but really I would rather die than be on that flight and you had had silent Covid then you would have been spreading it to a huge number of people due to the air flow/air conditioning within the plane.

Lovely1a2b3c · 23/07/2020 22:25

** that was 'if you had had silent Covid'

mathanxiety · 23/07/2020 22:28

She didn't know it was going to be that bad. It hadn't been before. She doesn't get it every time she flies and she had no reason to expect it to be this bad based on previous experience.

@SantaClaritaDiet
Even the thought of inflicting one single episode of vomiting on a plane trip lasting more than five hours should have made her consider taking travel sickness pills.

She was traveling with children. What if she had vomited all over her clothes and had to go and change in the airplane loo?

She should have given a lot more thought to the potential for her travel sickness to rear its head and to affect her and her children, even if she thought of nobody else.

Defenbaker · 23/07/2020 22:28

Unless the flight was imperative, YABU to go on a 5 hour flight with 2 young children and no other adults to help you, when you know you are prone to travel sickness and prone to vomitting. Again, unless the flight was imperative, YABVVVU to act like the victim of circumstances when the 5 hour flight was turned into a vomitfest nightmare for anyone near you, and you may have passed the virus onto others, if you were carrying it.

PablosHoney · 23/07/2020 22:29

You’d literally rather die, fucks sake

mathanxiety · 23/07/2020 22:29

Sorry, that ^^ was to @KarenKarendson

Drivingdownthe101 · 23/07/2020 22:30

really I would rather die than be on that flight

I assume you don’t fly then? As there’s always a chance someone could fall ill or be travel sick on a plane.
Someone vomited in the aisle next to me once. She went green and out it came. I took her sick covered baby while she cleaned herself off a bit.

IAintentDead · 23/07/2020 22:30

I'm getting a strong impression that some (luckily not most) would be the ones knitting whilst watching the executions - and gossiping how the executed deserved it.

andweallsingalong · 23/07/2020 22:32

I can't believe all the people insisting that travel sickness is a one size fits all condition and that OP can't possibly have it and not have vomited for 5 years.

I had awful travel sickness throughout my childhood on buses and in cars, but was okay on trains and planes. In childhood we didn't have a car and would use buses frequently. I would often go white as a sheet and feel very sick during the journey and for several hours afterwards.

I wasnt given travel sickness pills because the "only ones that worked made you stroppy".

I still have awful travel sickness but manage it better by avoiding buses and being a passenger in a car unless its absolutely unavoidable. Plus carefully controlling the environment in the car as. a driver so its not too hot or stuffy. Most people I know dont get travel sickness as a driver, but not me. Especially as a new driver I could often be seen seen with windows wide so I didn't feel horrendously sick even in the rain and cold.

Despite suffering periods of intense travel sickness where I felt like I desperately wanted to vomit every single time I've been on a bus and 90%+ as a car passenger I was very good at stopping myself actually throwing up.

In fact in my entire life I can only remember 4 occasions when I actually vommitted. The first I was very, very young and on a regular bus journey. We had to get off and I vommitted all over my new outfit. The second I was around 6 years old and on a long journey to the seaside. Squashed in the back of a hot car. I had to get out and vommitted several times into a bin at a service station. The next over 25 years later I was stuck in a stationary traffic jam driving my car with the window open and no air flow in a stuffy car. The last five years later friends were driving me to my wedding dress fitting and showing off their cornering on country roads. I thought I could cope with the window open, but couldn't and made it out of the car in time but threw up over my beautiful ivory wedding shoes.

So four occasions in over 30 years when I actually vommitted, but I would still class myself as having very bad travel sickness and have literally spent thousands of miserable hours feeling like shit.

So I can totally relate to the OP not having vomited in 5 years and not having considered it might happen on this particular flight. She has my sympathies, particularly with young children to look after at the same time.

Interestingly all of the times I was actually sick I had reduced air flow (hot day, extra stuffy vehicle) and so can easily believe that the mask may not have helped when already feeling sick.

mathanxiety · 23/07/2020 22:32

Hope you have all read Bojos latest on mask wearing.

It is precisely because of Bojo's comments and his piss poor example when it comes to mask wearing that the UK leads Europe in all the wrong ways when it comes to Covid.

Listen to Bojo indeed Hmm
He is Trump junior.

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