To think most women keep hair long to be attractive to the opposite sex?

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It's always been said men prefer long hair it looks more feminine etc.
I know many women hate having their hair short and are devastated if their hairdresser cuts of more than an inch.What is the obsession with long hair? I have fine hair and cut it short because long hair looks crap on me but I'm definitely in the minority. Even women who look better with short hair because of their hair texture insist on keeping it long. Do you think that's because we are subconsciously taught mainly by men that long hair is more attractive. Plus all teen girls have that uniform ultra long hair there is no diversity. And no I'm not jealous because I have short hair!(well very short bob to be fair.)

Mine is also thick and curly so looks very OAP if it's short also have double chin which is an unfortunate family trait so even if slightly overweight it all goes to my chin ! So I feel more comfortable with some hair covering that area ! My husband actually particularly liked short hair on women so it certainly isn't to please him !

Going to the hairdresser would bug me

Luckily Both my hairdressers over the last 20 years Have been mobile ones and the latest one is a friend of mine so its all good 😀

But going back to the OP I don’t understand if long hair is so easy why more men don’t have long hair...I’m assuming its because society says as a class men should have short hair

The first half of my post was to comeonbaby

Who is completely right 😀

OP I did try to steer it back to how even kids are perceived with my post; it was clear to me that those mums would never even consider letting their girls cut their hair short. Your post made me think of them as they are the group with the make-up/eyelashes/heels in the playground.

I just can't be bothered to go to the hairdressers, they never cut my hair properly. Plus my hair is frizzy and tightly curled when short, when long the weight pulls it out into waves, so I don't have to make any effort with it, except to condition wash it and leave it dry

It's definitely a thing among some men - like my ExH! We knew each other as friends for years before we got together. I’m the kind of person who's always changing their hairstyle so over the years it's been everything from super-short to halfway down my back. ExH told me once that during our pre-dating acquaintance, he had always been attracted to me but 'stopped noticing me' during the periods when I had shorter hair!

Another friend cut off her hair (which was very curly so never went LONG-long) and it looked great. She remarked how all her female friends, and even female strangers, would regularly compliment her on her new short cut, but that men had suddenly started to 'look through her' and never complimented her any more. She was single at the time and felt obliged to grow it back in order to get any male attention.

What I find odd is when women keep their hair long but ALWAYS have it up in a tight bun. It's a big thing among the mums where I live. It's obvious they find long hair impractical and want it out of the way and off their faces, so why even bother keeping it long? I assume the issue is that shorter styles require more regular maintenance ie frequent hairdresser trips which they maybe can't afford. But when I had long hair (which I love having, although it happens to be in a short phase at the moment), part of the fun of it for me was the variety - down one day, up the next, different styling possibilities- so I don't get why they'd NEVER wear it down.

@Alsohuman

People saying they don’t care what their partner thinks are a bit odd

Are they? Why’s that?

Assuming you don't actively hate your partner, wouldn't you care what they thought?

I couldn't be with anyone who had such a low opinion of me that they had no interest in my opinions on anything, and vice versa.

I couldn't be with anyone who had such a low opinion of me that they had no interest in my opinions on anything, and vice versa.

Well, we're talking about allowing a partner's preferences to dictate hair length, not whether we are indifferent to their political/ethical views on the world at large.

I couldn't be with anyone who had such a low opinion of me that they had no interest in my opinions on anything, and vice versa

No poster has said ‘no opinions on anything’

Just on hair

Cross post

Dazzle said it better

😀

But going back to the OP I don’t understand if long hair is so easy why more men don’t have long hair...I’m assuming its because society says as a class men should have short hair

You definitely have a point there. I work in a school. While most girls have long hair, there is also a variety in lengths (from down to their butts, to very short , to oops that wasn't supposed to come out like this) and styles.

Whereas there is only one boy with longer hair (down to his neck). There always are quite a few boys with longer hair in early years , but by KS1 it's all cut off.

IMHO short hair only really, properly suits a handful of women better than a slightly longer cut would. I feel very short hair is really not that flattering on most, and is often ageing too/can make a person look frumpy or like they don't care how their hair looks any more.

It's a personal decision of course, but I think that to suggest women keep their hair long for men is batshit. Mine is just past my shoulders atm but has often been longer. I keep it on the long side (despite a former friend proclaiming that 'no woman over 40 should have hair past her shoulders', what rot!!) because I have a fat face and look vile with short hair. I also feel very unfeminine with my hair short - that's not a comment on how anyone else should feel, it's merely a statement of my personal preference - I need to have it falling around my face in order to feel attractive.

But if I felt differently and wanted to have it cut short, the fuck would men's opinions stop me. Including DH's, but he wouldn't try to tell me how to have my hair in the first place.

@JoachimH - actually, I do go to bed with damp hair, as I wash my hair at night and don’t like hairdryers. It’s dry by the morning, so I can brush it and tie it back out of the way. If I wash it during the day, I will happily go out with my wet hair tied back, unless it’s for a night out, in which case I will have washed it the night before, or if not, I will blow dry it for a max of five minutes, until it looks reasonably dry on the outside!

@Walkaround Ok fair point. I was under the impression that going to bed with wet hair was courting disaster.

In fact, just leaving my hair to dry down while I’m out results in rather nice waves. If I get a hairdryer out and try to “style” my hair, or brush it, it just gets very big!

@JoachimH - when I had short hair, it definitely courted disaster to go to bed with wet hair! That’s why I’m never having my hair short again.

I find that other women will comment that I should straighten my hair to make it look more sophisticated, or cut it short so it looks neater, or constantly tie it back, which give me a headache. I like my hair wild and free.
My abusive ex once chopped my hair off in a fit of anger.
So I'll keep my long, wavy, unruly, Bohemian hair. Because it's my choice.

Assuming you don't actively hate your partner, wouldn't you care what they thought?

Of course but that doesn’t include my hair or the way I dress. Frankly it’s none of his business. He obviously finds me attractive or he wouldn’t have married me. The length of my hair has no bearing on that.

I couldn't be with anyone who had such a low opinion of me that they had no interest in my opinions on anything, and vice versa

Nor me. I didn’t say that, did I?

I was under the impression that going to bed with wet hair was courting disaster.

What kind of 'disaster' did you imagine women courted by going to bed with wet hair? Pneumonia? Damp pillows? Spontaneous combustion?

Where does that leave women with afro textured hair who can't grow their hair long?

Is this a european thing? I'm still seen as feminine despite my never growing, shoulder length hair.

ShineyMcShine - on what planet is shoulder length hair short?

What I find odd is when women keep their hair long but ALWAYS have it up in a tight bun. It's a big thing among the mums where I live. It's obvious they find long hair impractical and want it out of the way and off their faces, so why even bother keeping it long?

Different for different hair types, but mine is thick and curly.

The very lowest maintenance style for me is looping long hair up in a bun. My hair needs washing less frequently when it's long.

When it's shorter, it needs washing almost daily, and is harder to keep out of my face during exercise. Short hair is LESS practical to me - I mean, a bob can't be kept off your face or neck as easily as tied back hair?

@DazzleCamouflage

I was under the impression that going to bed with wet hair was courting disaster.

What kind of 'disaster' did you imagine women courted by going to bed with wet hair? Pneumonia? Damp pillows? Spontaneous combustion?

No, nuclear holocaust.

Seriously, what is the point of this comment?

I'm guessing you know I meant waking up with a tangled mess, but judging by how you've managed to take offence to just about every one of my posts in this thread, it seems you actually take offence to me being a man and having any opinion at all.

I'm guessing you know I meant waking up with a tangled mess, but judging by how you've managed to take offence to just about every one of my posts in this thread, it seems you actually take offence to me being a man and having any opinion at all.

@JoachimH, have you ever actually met a woman, even in the distance? You seem to be labouring under an awful lot of delusions.

I find long hair a lot less high maintenance than shorter styles. All I need to do is brush it and it looks nice and it doesn’t need frequent trips to the hairdresser either. I don’t really care if it’s attractive to the opposite sex or not. In fact, I’d really rather it wasn’t.