To still be pissed of by Jamie Oliver

[marysuzairn]

Everytime I go round a friend's house and they bring out the pims I can't have it because virtually all lemonade now has sweeteners in. People say they taste like crap and gives me such a bad headache.

TeacherKS1
Waitrose own brand lemonade has no sweetener in it.

It's the only one I buy and i have loads a few bottles stashed away. There is one almost identical with sweeteners so make sure you check if you go to buy some.

When I was desperate (Waitrose had no delivery slots and I'm disabled) I ordered Folkingtons Sicilian Clear Lemonade from Amazon. It was very nice but expensive - over £20 for 20 150ml cans and needed 2 cans per glass Pimms.

There are two items I boycott, palm oil and sweeteners - both make the food/drink taste vile.

JO promised to leave the country if Leave won the Referendum - why doesn't he go and fuck up another country's food and drink?

@bruffin

I don’t deny they existed, but it would have been more of an occasional thing and seen as a treat. Your point about the drinks van highlights that.

Every newsagent now devotes at least one fridge to soft drinks, there are whole aisles in supermarkets, vending machines in workplaces, train stations etc.

Yanbu, I’m allergic to potassium sorbate and so many more drinks seem to have that in now! Lemonade in cartons from the chilled aisle of sainsburys is the way forwards for us now.

I miss full sugar Ribena and Vimto. Both impossible to find without sweeteners, which I find leave a really nasty aftertaste.

I’m not a huge drinker of fizzy drinks, but I always used to have sone lucozade in (type 1 diabetic), I started getting a really awful stomach and it took me a while to twig that it was the sweetners in lucozade.

The thing that annoys me about JO is that he promotes healthy eating etc yet hes overweight, at least lead by example and be a healthy weight.

@Kitkat2020
I dont really remember it as a treat. Because it came in a van people boughts lots of bottles as people didnt drive to the supermarket and had to carry it home from the shops.

Glad someone else mentioned allergies.

I don't like fizzy drinks but once used a sweetner in tea and it made me vomit. Tried a few times after in case it was coincidence. Same thing.

Total PITA that it's now in everything...

I wonder if the people who can taste sweeteners are the same people that can taste the disgusting shit that is chocolate these days?

I can taste sweeteners and the weirdness of Cadbury etc..

I can also smell sugar puffs and asparagus in my wee.

Are they connected?

I don't react to sweeteners the way some of you do - I can drink them fine but I feel a bit suspicious towards them in a way I don't with sugar. I usually go for full fat coke anyway, I rarely drink fizzy drinks but sometimes you just need that sugar hit.

I've just come across this website, hopefully it will help some of you:

propersugar.co.uk/

I was bought up in the 60s and fizzy drinks were just as popular as now. There was even the corona drinks van who came round the streets when i was a child

They really weren’t as popular. I remember the drinks lorry coming to my grandparents house. They were a treat for children but more commonly used as mixers for alcohol for adults. Tonic, bitter lemon, ginger beer and lemonade. They weren’t an everyday thing for the majority of children, even by the 1980s. At family parties the soft drinks were there for the adults and I’d be given a (small) glass or two of it but warned that it was there for the grown ups.

YANBU.

Waitrose used to do a really nice lime cordial and then they ruined it with sweeteners. Ditto San Pellegrino and so many others. Even just wanting a lime and soda in a pub is ruined.

So yes, I’m pissed off with Mr Oliver too.

I meant to add that I can’t drink anything with sweeteners in, it makes me feel so sick and I can taste them for the rest of the day.

I’m torn with this one. I hate how sugar has taken over everything and how it’s hidden in almost every food we eat and I think reducing our sugar intake is a positive thing. What I find strange is that it’s focused on drinks and not food- I know that a sweet fizzy drink is filled with sugar, that’s a conscious choice, rather than the surprise at how much is in my pasta sauce.
I don’t like full fat drinks my mouth feels fuzzy afterwards, however I would drink lucozade when I was unwell and it’s gross now.

You have a choice not to have a drink, or drink with/without an artificial sweeteners. Obesity is huge problem. I have a feeling, many won't mind so much as they can get pissed.

@IcedPurple I totally agree that encouraging children to drink water would be better than encouraging them to drink soft drinks full of artificial sweeteners.

I expect that Jamie Oliver would agree with that too. I don't blame him for the way that manufacturers have interpreted his campaign.

When he was first on tv my DS realised he could probably cook too. He's pretty good now, all these years later.

I hate all the sweetened stuff too. It's bad for you in a different way. The extra price for original coke is really unfair. We hardly drink it but if I do have some I want the sugar stuff.

I don't buy sugar free pop.

But also the squash being sugar free is annoying. Why can't it be our choice?

I often water down abit of pure orange for my toddler. Some of the sweetened squash is minging.

"But also the squash being sugar free is annoying. Why can't it be our choice?"
It can be your choice. You just need to make it yourself. Simple.

@xolotltezcatlopoca

You have a choice not to have a drink, or drink with/without an artificial sweeteners. Obesity is huge problem. I have a feeling, many won't mind so much as they can get pissed.

Having a drink once or twice a week will not cause you to be obese. In fact there are studies that show that drinks with artificial sweeteners doesnt have a real affect on obesity

I will also add I do agree with him on healthy meals.

I was at secondary from 200-2005. Our options for lunch were.

Hotdog
Burger
Sausage roll.
Chips.

Drinks were only Panda pops.

Vendor machine
Yorkies
Fruit pastilles
KitKat's
Etc

Cookies were also a lunch option.

That was it. But luckily for me my mum cooked for us and only allowed us a school dinner twice a week

But I don't agree with him banning sugar options in drinks.

As the lady above said her husband needed a sugary drink.

It's a shame he can't campaign for fruit to be more affordable. £3 for a few strawberries. £3 for 6 apples. I get Asda garden gang fruit for my kids. But you can see why people can't afford some of it.

The guy can’t catch a break. Blamed for random people’s aspartame headaches...

Sweeteners taste disgusting and leave an aftertaste that lasts all night.

Well this obviously isn't a fact and it's your unfortunate experience, myself and my family don't seem to have these issues. I think people just like being over dramatic about this stuff because they don't like change.

I can't speak for your own experiences, but I think that, as a nation, we've become so used to artificial and over-processed food and drink that we've forgotten what natural food actually tastes like. If you are used to more unprocessed food, the artificial stuff comes as a real shock to your system.

Possibly not so much the case with Stevia, but artificial sweetener tricks your body into thinking (and reacting appropriately) that you're taking in a load of sugar. For people with diabetes, this can cause very adverse consequences. How is it good for anybody tricking your own body?

I don't object to sweeteners, if that's what people want - I just don't understand why they can't continue to make both varieties and charge more for the sugary one to include the sugar/anti-diabetic tax. Who is there out there wanting a diet/lo-cal/sugar-free version, but seeing one with only half as much sugar in as well as the sweeteners and deciding that's the one they want after all?

They wouldn't dream of doing it with alcohol - sell what appears to be normal lemonade, but just pop a bit of alcohol in there; they wouldn't sell 'sausages' containing 100% pork and also offer 'vegetarian sausages' containing 'only' 50% pork.

Donald Rumsfeld has become a phenomenally wealthy man because of Aspartame and it's far from all good if you look into it.

@Pleasebeaflesbite

Yanbu OP. I like my Pimms with ginger ale and it is now completely impossible to get non-low-calorie ginger ale. Fucking Jamie’s fault

Fevertree? Or Canada Dry? Or Fentimans?

They've messed with lucozade too.Being full of sugar was the point!

I really support JO, it’s the governments half-hearted ‘that’ll do’ approach that the problem. Tackling obesity is complex and JO has done loads to bring the issues to public attention.

Yes,but it's funny how snippy he gets when someone brings up his fluctuating weight. Then suddenly it's bad manners to mention people's weight...