To still be pissed of by Jamie Oliver

[marysuzairn]

Everytime I go round a friend's house and they bring out the pims I can't have it because virtually all lemonade now has sweeteners in. People say they taste like crap and gives me such a bad headache.

YANBU, op.

I can't even find full sugar lemonade any more. Ruined one of my favourite drinks. Bloody sweeteners!

Fgs sugar is not a poison. Too much sugar makes you fat and gives you type 2 diabetes in some cases. It also causes dental decay. But everybody knows this!

If I choose to have a glass of lemonade once every couple of months then I want it without sweeteners thank you very much. I'm a grown adult.

I think someone (might even have been me lol) started a thread listing drinks that don't have artificial sweeteners.

I'll see if I can find it.

@teaflake

YANBU, op.

I can't even find full sugar lemonade any more. Ruined one of my favourite drinks. Bloody sweeteners!

^this

Yesterday I did an Ocado order.... no lemonade (the fizzy sort suitable for Pimm) without artificial sweetener stocked. This morning I tried the local co op, the larger Co op, the small local Tesco and Morrisons - not one of them had a fizzy lemonade without sweeteners....

I use fever tree tonics, ginger ale etc but their Sicilian lemonade isn’t suitable for Pimms or making a shandy....

Here's one recent thread listing drinks without artificial sweeteners

link 1

and here's another one

link 2

Interesting, one of those threads was also inspired by the awfulness of Pimms with artificially sweetened lemonade.

Oh not that holier than thou ‘sugar is a poison’ bullshit again.

Yeah. It’s just like strychnine, isn’t it? Entirely comparable.

FFS.

Aspartame tastes bitter to me and gives me horrific migraines. I don’t drink alcohol and can’t have many soft drinks when out now as so many of them have aspartame in. Blooming annoying. I’d just like to be able to have a nice refreshing orange juice and lemonade with a meal!

If sugar is a poisen what are artificial sweeteners? A nuclear weapon? Is fruit poison too? Even veggies have sugar, guess they're poison also

At least we know what the long term affects of sugar are and it's been consumed for thousands of years.

Yeah I think its shit I cant smoke on public transport and in restaurants too, all these fecking do gooders trying to make our lives better

Mac smoking directly affects others who aren’t doing the smoking. It’s not as though if I’m sitting next to you eating sugar, that you automatically have to eat some too, against your will, is it? The two aren’t comparable.

I'm assuming that macncheese is being ironic.

Me too Chic.

YANBU.

Bloody sugar tax.

As Is aid way way upthread - yes. It does affect other foods too. Because, for me, it is a taste bud thing. It isn't imagined, it is an aversion to the very real disgusting mouth taste and feel of a few modern ingredients!

Chewing gum? Gods no! They seem t have the same affect as a handful of those sugar free gummy bears do, according to reviews!

Crisps? Oh yuck! I can taste it. So tend to stick to certain brands/trypes of crisp

Cereals? Like crisps and chocolate I can no longer eat them. I have to go for the very adult ones and triple check the ingredients.

Telling me that fizzy drinks taste no different is like telling me that Cadburys chcoloate still has teh same recipe it always had. It is a lie. It is something the manufacturer wants you to believe as the replacement ingredients in that same old recipe are cheaper and has not stopped me eating the same amount of sugary stuff as I used to. In moderation, as a treat, not an everyday foodstuff!

Mainly because I am an adult and make adult choices. Instead of continuing to remove all possible harm from all areas of life and growing generation after generation of people who cannot manage risk we need to be slinging all sorts of dangers back into life and teaching kids how to recognise it, manage it and live with it!

Can you eat chewing gum? Crisps? Cereals? Theres lots of food with sweeteners in that arent fizzy drinks

Gum, no. It makes me feel sick. Crisps, cereals and other foods - I’ve not had a problem because I haven’t noticed any of the ones I eat with sweeteners in, because I check the labels.

Frankly I couldn’t give one shiny shit what a piece of research says (and who funded that, by the way?) because I know that if I eat most types of sweetener I will feel sick and be stuck with a horrible taste in my mouth. And that’s even if I didn’t know that the food/drink had sweeteners in to start with, so it’s not just something I choose to do.

It’s the same with milk. I cannot bear the taste of it and never have been able to, and if I get given a takeaway drink with milk in it, but with a lid on so I can’t see what the drink looks like and therefore don’t know it has milk in, it takes just one tiny sip for me to realise and I can taste the horrible flavour for ages afterwards.

Similarly, some people cannot bear bitter vegetables or coriander, whereas other like me can eat them happily.

It’s almost like we’re all different, isn’t it? Except with sweeteners they’re a manufactured item that’s worth big money, so of course there’s good cause to discredit those who say they aren’t very nice.

I agree massively. We should have been encouraging people to have things less sweet, not replacing excessive sweetness with artificial rubbish. I have always diluted cordials nearly twice what the bottles suggest. Currently have homemade lemon in fridge ... Not regular though!

@Pythonesque

I agree massively. We should have been encouraging people to have things less sweet, not replacing excessive sweetness with artificial rubbish. I have always diluted cordials nearly twice what the bottles suggest. Currently have homemade lemon in fridge ... Not regular though!

Totally agree,

I don’t even think that the paying a bit more is the problem it is the fact that normal ordinary lemonade or lucazade or even cola either isn’t now on the shelves or you really have to search for it.

I find certain jars of sauces and tins of soups have so much sugar in them that they are verging on being considered a pudding.

I like sugar in my coffee and in things that are supposed to have sugar in but I like my meals to taste savoury and now everything is so loaded with sugar that they don’t anymore

We don't use white sugar at all.
DH buys energy-type drinks but only in fairly small quantities and he's the only one who drinks them.
Sadly, he got dd into eating crisps when she was really little - when I was still gobsmacked that people bought them to take home, until I married I thought people only ate crisps in pubs! - but even dd barely touches them now.

We do use sugar, though. We don't like the substitutes. I have about as many types of sugar in my store cupboard as I do different types of flour.

Also, elderly people are urged to eat sugary snacks as they have a tendency to not consume sufficient calories. I can see why, even in my late fifties, my digestion is not what it was once, and I can't digest heavy meals. A nice biscuit and a cup of sweet tea is pick-me-up for an older person. The body needs a quick energy fix.
Sugars occur naturally in fruit - and honey is sweet, so that I doubt very much that we will go on believing that sugar is a poison, in years to come. Preserves full of sugar are a great way of keeping fruit viable in jam for longer. You only have a tiny smidgen of jam, after all. Perhaps regular little bits of sugar as part of afternoon tea or as pudding is actually good for stopping you over-indulging in the evening.

I can taste sweeteners, all of them, don't eat them. I don't eat any products with them in there. DS has ADHD and sugar is a no-no for him but I still don't bake with sweeteners.