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Lectured by stranger over plans for large family holiday

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Bluepolkadots42 · 12/07/2020 12:52

My MIL has just been given a terminal cancer diagnosis. Any treatment she has from now on is basically palliative- she has been shielding strictly up to this point but now she has had the terminal diagnosis she has been very keen for us to visit (in garden) and to see us and all her grandchildren.
I visited her yesterday and she said she would love for all of us to be able to go away together for a holiday for a week in the UK before she isn't here to go on one. She told me the area she had always wanted to visit and so I've been busy trying to find somewhere that can accommodate all of us in October half-term. In total we are 4 separate households of 8 adults and 4 children. I asked on an online forum for some recommendations of group accommodation and explained briefly the reason for trip- I said we were after preferably 2 cottages that are adjoined or large house with separate annexe. Lots of people were glad to give recommendations.
One person however commented with a load of stuff about guidelines and how they (presumably they own a holiday letting) weren't allowed to take a booking from more than one household etc and we needed to be careful as my MIL is shielding etc. I replied politely saying that must be hard for their business, but there does seem to be places able to accommodate multiple households still and ultimately now my MIL is thinking about quality of her life, doing thing she's going to enjoy and making memories for grandchildren etc. as she knows she doesn't have quantity of life left. This person then private messaged me further with more spiel about guidelines and shielding people etc.

AIBU to feel pissed off and like they should just mind their own fucking business quite frankly?
We are not unaware of Covid situation and neither is my MIL as she isn't an imbecile! All the kids will be back at school by then because apparently it's safe enough and at least 3 of us will be back at our place of work by then too, so why shouldn't we all stay together??

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AuntyPasta · 12/07/2020 14:13

’Appallingly badly run site which has obviously been influence by corrupt politics‘

compulsiveliar2019 · 12/07/2020 14:13

Oh and Venue20 they are not rules they are guidelines that are not and have never been legally enforceable. So the OP isn't actually doing anything wrong anyway!

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xolotltezcatlopoca · 12/07/2020 14:14

I am so sorry OP. I hope you have a lovely holiday.

Venue, Op is already going through hard time, you don't need to be nasty to make a point.

ineedaholidaynow · 12/07/2020 14:14

I too am pretty rule abiding at the moment, but I would also see if you can book earlier. My DF died a couple of years ago. His cancer was diagnosed as terminal in the May and all treatment stopped, he rallied for a couple of months as it was the chemo at the time making him quite poorly, but then the cancer took hold and he was poorly from mid August and died in the October.

If you are In England I though you could go on holiday with one other household, so if you could get 2 cottages near each other, with 2 households in each, would that not comply with the rules?

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DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 12/07/2020 14:17

I completely agree with those who are saying bring it forward - all we know about the guidelines in what they are now, make plans based on current rules ASAP.

If another wave does come it will cause more havoc in the winter when we already experience strains on the NHS and it will be harder to socialise outside due to limited daylight and colder weather (both of which could have a negative effect on transmission rate).

Plus, people can deteriorate quite quickly and without warning - her health is probably the best it’s going to be now. Go while she is still able to enjoy it and while the memories you make will be almost all positive, rather than tinged with the difficulties of seeing a loved one struggle.

I’m sure there is the perfect residence out there somewhere, a row of 4 cottages, or 4 static caravans on a single isolated plot - whatever.
Go for it.

KarenMcKaren · 12/07/2020 14:17

I would just do it. Book somewhere as quickly as possible.

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Tootletum · 12/07/2020 14:20

I sure wouldn't have posted that on Mumsnet if I wanted cheering up about the world not really being full of bitchy busybodys...

JustanotherTuesday · 12/07/2020 14:22

I would bring it forward if possible. My MIL was diagnosed with cancer and died thirteen days later. The speed at which she deteriorated was incredibly fast.
I am so sorry and I hope you manage to have one last holiday Flowers

Frozenfrogs86 · 12/07/2020 14:25

I read in some buried part of the official guidelines that those who had terminal diagnosis would need to balance their shielding status with quality of life. Ultimately these are guidelines not law. Anyone lacking compassion or empathy for those in this situation can jog on frankly.

thedancingbear · 12/07/2020 14:25

The person who contacted you is a cunt, OP. Ignore them and book your holiday.

Sorry to hear about your MIL.

Nat6999 · 12/07/2020 14:28

Venue20 Go & stick yourself in a dark room with no internet access & stop being an arsehole. OP I hope you find a lovely venue for your holiday & you all have some good times making memories you will cherish forever.

Lockdownlooks · 12/07/2020 14:28

Go sooner rather than later and have a thoroughly good time. If rules don’t actually allow isolate for two weeks when you get back so you don’t pass anything on to public/if work out of home or children at school (a reason August might be better.)

AriadnesFilament · 12/07/2020 14:30

@Coconutmeg

It is so frustrating though to see people who really can’t get into the mindset that it’s not all about them. It’s not about your MIL It’s the risk they poses to others, the medical people putting their life on the line.
Even at the height of it all, when lockdown was at its most restrictive, it was firmly and fully recognised that people who were advised to shield due to a terminal illness may well decide to not to follow the shielding advice, and instead choose to live the remainder of the their lives as they saw fit making the most of the time they had left.

Even in at peak it was recognised that those without much quantity of life left deserved some quality.

Wind your damn neck in.

Teacaketotty · 12/07/2020 14:31

We’ve become so scared of dying we’ve forgotten to live...

Enjoy your holiday OP, you get one life - help your MIL enjoy what’s left of hers Flowers

Nartl0ngNow · 12/07/2020 14:33

I really wouldn't care what complete strangers say.
Your MIL deserves to spend quality time with family. Covid or no covid.

Parker231 · 12/07/2020 14:35

Book the holiday and have a lovely time as a family. By October we’ll be back at work and school, travelling on the tube, flying overseas etc. A UK family holiday isn’t banned!

BrummyMum1 · 12/07/2020 14:37

Whatever happens with coronavirus and lockdown, it sounds like your MIL needs something to look forward to. Book it and enjoy it and let the coronavirus vigilante comments wash over you.

bigknickersbigknockers · 12/07/2020 14:49

I swear to God there are some folk bloody loving this whole shit show of Covid19 and seriously worry what they will do when its over.
This lady is going to die and her family wish to spend time with her and some people are banging on about rules. FFS they are guidelines not law. Make memories and enjoy the time with her while you can.
If it was me I would be booking earlier than October.

WheresMyMilk · 12/07/2020 14:54

We’ve become so scared of dying we’ve forgotten to live...

Agree.

Go and have a lovely time OP Flowers

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