Sick of being called Karen

[frog22]

Listening to Radio 4 and Caroline Hirons is on and she has already used the term Karen to refer to her followers. I'm just sick of it. It's as bad as calling a woman the B word or C word!

Why would she do it? Why do women do it to other women?

Damn woke people with their hating racists superior thinking. We all need to be more like the people who proudly call themselves "non-woke" and think they're obviously superior but can't see the irony.

I don't think you understand the meaning of irony...

No the term 'Karen' isn't at the same level as the N word, of course it isn't. And I hate the term 'woke'. But why do you need to use the 'Karen' meme? The anti racist message can be expressed without the need to use a woman's name. Can't you see why women who are actually named 'Karen' might find that offensive?

Just tell me why that meme is something you want to cling to for dear life? How does it prove anything?

[quote LinemanForTheCounty]@MonkeyToesOfDoom what you've posted is like about a quarter of the article and doesn't even deal with how it's come into popular use.[/quote]
Well I wasn't going to copy and paste it all, it's there if people want to go read it. Or are they busy speaking to the hosting services of KYM?

I find it very cringe inducing. I know 3 wonderful women called Karen ranging from 60 to 38 and I feel so sorry for each of them.

@KilljoysDutch

I guess you could say #notallwomen. The irony. All those posts belittling men who say not all men and now there's the out rage of not all women but it's ok because men are wose.

If you don't want to be called a Karen don't act like one.

If you don't want to be raped don't act like a woman who does.

Is that acceptable? No, thought not.

Damn woke people with their hating racists superior thinking

So woke people have superior thinking because they know it is wrong to belittle and hate people because of the colour of their skin which is a personal characteristic which they didn't choose to have? That's eminently reasonable. How about people who were given a name at birth which they didn't choose? It is OK to belittle and hate them?

@MonkeyToesOfDoom Ok but the selection you've posted doesn't give any information about how this whole thing has blown up, unlike the information further down the same page, and instead gives the impression that's it's just a playful innocent matter that it isn't worth getting cross about.

I'm sure that wasn't your intention tho.

I'm finding the use of it within the UK to be a useful social indicator.

Posting 'ok boomer', 'gammon', 'snowflake' or 'Karen' signals two things:

1. your own rough age-group and/or sex, and
2. your own lack of intellect.

A one-word insult does not an argument make. I can only conclude that these people don't know how to spell 'concede' as in 'I concede your point'.

I worked in retail as a teen & yes some people do act like dicks, because they are dicks

You do know some men are actually called Dick, right? As in real name. So perhaps you should practice what you preach there.

Btw, never used the name but have seen it used in the "original" way. From my understanding, there's 2 "originals":

1. a woman acted a certain way (rude, racist, entitled, brash, hurling insults, etc whatever and kept demanding to speak to the manager, insisting the black man who was the manager couldn't be the manager but must have a 'superior'...a.k.a 'a white man to rule them all'). She happened to be white and her name's Karen. Since then, anyone who does something similar is said to act like a Karen or be a Karen.

1. I also heard that a man was ranting on reddit about his ex wife, Karen, stating everything Karen did to ruin him. Since then any woman who acts in a similar fashion is said to be acting like a Karen or is a Karen.

This isn't the first time names would be used as shorthand to describe a behaviour (usually originating from the first person's name) and won't be the last. This isn't also the first time a concept morphs into different things and is used in different, often random and silly ways.

I do understand being irked by the now rampant use of 'Karen' by a select group of people for any little thing (I don't see this personally but I like the rock I live under) especially if it's your name.

I'm neither for nor against it. I'm more against people 'calling out' others for daring to speak up or complain (in a rational manner, not hurling abuse) than the name currently used as shorthand. I don't use it and have only seen it online. I'm friends with a couple of Karens though (real name) and this has never come up.

Every time you use the name as an insult, an incel has a vengeful tearful wank.

No male equivalent says it all. No male name has gained the same traction or notoriety. No male name has quite the same hateful connotations. ‘Karen’ is a hate figure. It’s roots are on misogynistic Reddit threads and it has morphed from there. Those defending its use to call out racism, denying that it is misogynistic, are as blind as those who deny we live in a structural racist society. White woman may well participate in structural racism and that is a problem but they are not the architects of it so structurally nothing will change. Men use it gleefully to silence women with a voice or platform whatever their political viewpoint - both Jess Phillips and Priti Patel have been called Karens.
Interesting that ‘Karen’ is also the name of a persecuted ethnic group in Myanmar so odd name to choose to call out racism.

@Andthewinnerislucky are you talking about the name Richard or the name dick?

I think using words like Karen (in the 'new wave' way people use it in the UK or anywhere else) as well as Woke, Snowflake, Boomer, Virtue-signaller, SJW, etc generally shuts people or arguments down. For some who use those words, it's intentional. For others, it isn't.

Personally, I wouldn't be shut down just because someone used the buzzword of the day (hatefully or ignorantly) if I think I have something to say. It just doesn't register.

Karen at the point of her greatest ascendency. It's all been downhill from here, basically:

🤣🤣🤣

Yeah I think it's pretty funny too, that one. There were a whole bunch like that which were a sort of meta response to the whole incel thing. But then they redoubled, grafted barbecue Becky and co on and once and they did that Karen had no chance. Ofc the people using it now have no clue what they're propping up.

[quote inglory]@Andthewinnerislucky are you talking about the name Richard or the name dick? [/quote]
The name Dick. People who are known by the name Dick, whether it's short for Richard or not.

The ones that come to mind are:
Dick Cheney
Dick Landy

And have comes across a few more "ordinary" guys. I've only seen American men called this and I don't think people (younger generation) go by the name anymore though as the act of calling men 'a dick' has gone far and wide.

That said, I can see why some women named Karen would want to keep their name from going extinct.

I don't think the meaning of don't be a dick is particularly gender specific.

Not to mention the name is also used to describe a man's penis. Double whammy there.

@inglory

I don't think the meaning of don't be a dick is particularly gender specific.

Not necessarily but is used mainly for men. Think that's how cunt came about for women.

Honestly, these words are just funny in a stupid sort of way.

I think dick is more akin a cunt ie body parts now used for both sexes. I don't think that's the same as Karen.

Yes it is now....as meanings morph the longer people use it and the wider it goes. Just like Karen has now morphed from the "original" to other meanings.

What body part is called Karen?

I didn't say Karen is used as a body part. I agreed with what you wrote re: dick used for body parts and said it is used that way now because it has morphed into it.

Karen has also morphed into being used in the random way some people use it now.

I can only conclude that these people don't know how to spell 'concede' as in 'I concede your point

Lets face it that’s 99.9% of people using the internet to communicate.