To be absolutely disgusted that Cheeky Wipes are selling essential oils to use on baby wipes!

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How is this allowed?!

Yabu

@slashlover

Is deadline news a newspaper?

It's a press agency which sends content to the media.

So we're agreed that there several articles on the internet about the Johnson and Johnson wipes and ZERO about the Cheeky Wipes?

I can only see one newspaper report about this incident.

Those were my words.

So it's not a newspaper.

@slashlover

Is deadline news a newspaper?

It's a press agency which sends content to the media.

So we're agreed that there several articles on the internet about the Johnson and Johnson wipes and ZERO about the Cheeky Wipes?

I can only see one newspaper report about this incident.

Those were my words.

So it's not a newspaper.

@TatianaBis

Lavender essential oil is one oil you can use neat on the skin. I wouldn’t use it neat for babies, but then the manufacturers aren’t either.

If anyone has experienced burns with lavender oil I’d suggest there was something wrong with the manufacturing, making process or it was adulterated with another essential oil or chemical.

Yep, just what I was thinking too. I keep neat lavender oil for burns because it treats burns.

Of course some people may be allergic to it, or maybe it's not actually Lavandula angustifolia that's being used - but it is known to be the one essential oil that can be used neat without causing problems in most people. I wouldn't use any other essential oil neat on normal skin - although lemon oil is very good on verrucas! Anything else goes in a carrier oil.

are you okay?

Actually, not to do with the op, but we use Cheeky Wipes for our 2yo and also did for our now 5yo when still in nappies. I found that the soaking part a pita, so I now just keep the wipes dry and run them under water when I'm about to change a nappy. It also means the water can be nice an warm, as I used to find then quite chilly when they'd been sitting, wet, in the 'clean box' in my chilly downstairs loo. So I actually prefer this way.

You must have lead a very sheltered life OP.

Wow such a dramatic reaction!

They can be diluted surely... That's what's in my diffuser

Did you read the article? She put different oils directly on her skin? You're now deliberately misleading people so here is that paragraph word for word.

"She infused her water with citrus oils said to detoxify and lathered her skin with stress-relieving lavender. When a faint rash appeared on her forearm, a salesperson told her it was a normal “detox” reaction and advised her to rub frankincense oil on it. She obliged."

Eh? This was a thing years ago when I had my first. She grew up with a perfectly fine bottom!

They sound absolutely fine. However if you aren't happy with them, don't buy! Simple.

But that's an allergic reaction where she kept using the oils!

Your post makes it sound like they're advocating putting battery acid on the wipes. If you use them and your baby gets a red bottom, you'd think "oh, lavender oil doesn't suit her" and stop using it. You wouldn't make the reaction worse by keep putting it on.

Brieminewine
MN hysteria at its finest.

You beat me to it.

OP, using 'totally disgusting' when so many PP are saying it's perfectly safe leaves you nowhere to go. What do you say when you are confronted with something REALLY disgusting? Perhaps you would have got a better response had your title said something like 'concerned'?

I can only see one newspaper report about this incident.

Those were my words.

So it's not a newspaper.

Here is the newspaper you requested.

www.edp24.co.uk/news/baby-wipes-burn-rebecca-fisher-daughter-1-6515254

Now, could you please supply me with a links about the Cheeky Wipes causing burns? I will accept newspaper articles/blog posts/forum posts/twitter posts/facebook posts/absolutely anything. Should be easy there are loads about Johnson and Johnson wipes.

OP you are absolutely right and I'd had the same thoughts.

On the other hand many of us use products every day that we know aren't exactly good for us on the basis that the benefits outweigh the risks, especially, as in this case, if people see the advantages but don't personally experience any negative effects.

The issue is that the vast majority of people aren't aware of the harm that can be caused by pure essential oils. They're incredibly potent! This means that it's all the more important that companies take their responsibility seriously in keeping their customers safe and I don't believe Cheeky Wipes are in this instance.

Lavender is at least one of the 'safer' oils but it doesn't mean that it's without risk. There are, of course, other essential oils that can even interact with medications, potentially cause seizures, premature labour... the list goes on.

In this case the lavender won't be of any benefit to the baby but if people do choose to use it to make the wipes smell nice (and I do understand that) then one drop should be more than sufficient.

Wow. Wind your neck in.

As someone with horrific skin allergies, I find it really disturbing. Essential oils don’t dissolve in water, you would have to shake to distribute. So at some point the baby could get a concentrated exposure. Even if it was diluted, there is no benefit and tons of risk. I don’t know how a parent could risk their child getting a painful rash just so there can be a nice scent in the air.

I dont get the need for pre soaking wipes. I always just used dry at home or wetted when I needed them from small bottle of water. Iv only used essential oils for mucky wipes.

Same @Waveysnail. The essential oil problem hadn't occurred to me, but we always wet them from the tap. Nice warm water that way too instead of a cold cloth! Think the dcs preferred it.

I haven't purchased cheeky wipes and even if I did, I wouldn't use the oils.
My concern is parents using them on newborn babies, 5 drops is a lot but it's easy to add more than recommended (I keep doing this with my diffuser)*

If you’ve not bought them or even tried them out then why are you getting your knickers in a twist over it ffs they are just wipes and you have the choice about whether you add the oils or not it’s not like the wipes come pre mixed with the oils and cheeky wipes are a lot better than normal wipes so I really don’t see what your problem is. I think you’ve had enough internet for today it might be time to step away from mumsnet and stop arguing with people over wipes that you’ve never used which leads on to the question of why you where searching for them if you have no reason to use them

I haven't purchased cheeky wipes and even if I did, I wouldn't use the oils.
My concern is parents using them on newborn babies, 5 drops is a lot but it's easy to add more than recommended (I keep doing this with my diffuser)

That was a bold fail.

For you OP:

www.lifehack.org/articles/money/this-list-50-low-cost-hobbies-will-excite-you-2.html

OP this is mumsnet, people will post for ages about your tone or words you choose rather than the information you're trying to convey. It took a while but having read all your posts I do understand what you're saying - I didn't know about essential oils before, wouldn't really bother with them tbh but good to know.

There are loads of misleading claims/ advice when it comes to baby stuff, you do need to be on your toes sometimes.

@Purpleartichoke

As someone with horrific skin allergies, I find it really disturbing. Essential oils don’t dissolve in water, you would have to shake to distribute. So at some point the baby could get a concentrated exposure. Even if it was diluted, there is no benefit and tons of risk. I don’t know how a parent could risk their child getting a painful rash just so there can be a nice scent in the air.

As someone else with really sensitive skin I can list approximately 10000 things off the top of my head that I find 'disturbing' but a parent putting a couple of drops of oil in with some wipes isn't one of them. We've used cheeky wipes (and the oils) since DS was about six weeks and we love them. The only time he has ever had any rashes or soreness is from when we've used disposable wipes (e.g. when away) so I feel a lot more comfortable with the wipes and the teeniest drop of oil than with those.

If they truly ARE pure essential oils, then this a very bad idea. Several, including lemon and lavender oil, are irritants/allergens. I know, I'm allergic to Lavender.

My guess is that they aren't pure essential oils at all, but some ersatz, diluted version. While this makes them less dangerous, I still don't see the point of using them on baby wipes though. Why risk irritating your baby's skin, just so you can smell an oil? Don't babies smell good enough without this? If you really want to smell an oil, put it on yourself instead.