No Wraparound Care from September

[Mum2Girls19]

School has advised that they are not offering wrap around care from September as bubbles cannot be mixed.
They are thinking that part time places are also the way forward as they cannot social distance properly in a smaller place.
Further information hasnt been announced yet
Im a bit lost of how Im going to work without wrap around care, yes im working from home but who knows how long that will be for

Anyone else??

@PicsInRed
How about the fact they very publicly and loudly opposed the reopening of schools in the first place? Even keyworker provision was sternly frowned up at the outset.

Bullshit.

@seven201

My daughter is starting reception in September but they won't tell me if wraparound care is happening or not but they did say it goes against the bubbles. I'm a secondary teacher so have been frantically trying to find a childminder as my dh doesn't have flexible hours either. It's a nightmare!

My dd will be exposed to her school bubble, a childminder bubble and the hundreds of kids I teach at secondary. The country is practically one massive bubble!

Exactly.

I too teach secondary. I will mix with 6 bubbles (teach 7-13 but not 12). My children will be in their classes bubbles and a bubble of whatever childcare I can find. This is what is infuriating. The bubbles give the illusion of protection (ha!) but is preventing the childcare I need.

It all depends on the facilities that the school has and on who runs the wraparound sessions. I am in secondary and there are some things that we are just not going to be able to accommodate now. Staggered starts are going to be a nightmare for parents but we have nearly 1000 kids and we need to keep year groups separate.

It could be a cleaning issue - if the part of the school that is used cannot be cleaned before and after the wraparound then it isn't usable. We are having to up the hours of cleaning and catering staff - no idea how we pay for that

[quote Hercwasonaroll]@PicsInRed
How about the fact they very publicly and loudly opposed the reopening of schools in the first place? Even keyworker provision was sternly frowned up at the outset.

Bullshit.[/quote]
How on earth did a thread about wraparound turn into a Union/Teacher (teachers ARE the Union) criticism?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-53072305

Here's one of the first google returns, but this has been a conversation in the media for many months, with the unions themselves speaking in the media on the subject. They were "concerned" about "safety".

The unions have not opposed schools reopening. It's nonsense to say that they have. They have much more of a idea how schools work than this government and definitely care more about pupils and staff safety.

If one more person suggests I just ‘find a nanny’ I think I will scream! Not everyone lives in a large populated town with nannies on tap!

It's helpful if people don't post false and untrue things that they've made up about the unions. It creates a lot of bad feeling and worry in parents who are already struggling to cope.

Unions want schools to open and haven't blocked them opening at all.

My dd will be exposed to her school bubble, a childminder bubble and the hundreds of kids I teach at secondary. The country is practically one massive bubble!

In order for teachers to cross bubbles, they need to socially distance from students. No idea how we will mark books...

@Rudolphian

My Primary have said no breakfast club and no after school clubs unless guidance changes and the bubbles can mix. I'm going to have to sort something out.

I'd point out to them that the guidance already says the bubbles can mix. Someone posted it earlier. They've said where possible maintain bubbles, or if not consider small groups. But it's all guidance. They could open wraparound if they want to, and the guidance encourages them to do so.

My son is pre-school age and his childminder is running as usual so I don't face this problem...But I feel so bad for those of you in this situation. Enabling working mothers is so key to equality and ensuring that there are real choices for our daughters when they grow up. But parents (and in reality mostly mothers) are being completely shafted and it's going to cause real suffering in those households where the second income is a necessity, not a 'nice to have'.

In terms of suggestions, I'm sure you've thought of these already and they're impractical, but maybe offer to pay a SAHM with a child in the same class to cover the time? Or get together with 2-3 other parents in the same situation to do a part-time nanny share?

How on earth did a thread about wraparound turn into a Union/Teacher (teachers ARE the Union) criticism?

It's a discussion about the issue including factors in the inability to recommence provision.

unions are blocking the full opening of schools

This is total nonsense. The unions have provided more practical help to schools than the government’s ephemeral guidance has.

OP - I sympathise- have you talked to your employer? Is there any way they are likely to give you some (hopefully) temporary flexibility?

@Helpmyhair2019 I was thinking the same. Two years ago my childminder moved away so I needed to find wraparound but the school club was full at that time. There are no nannies where I live. Outside of mumsnet I know if no-one who is or used one!

I really do urge parents to go back to schools and ask for an explanation. The guidance allows and encourages wrap around.

The gov may have ‘explicitly said’ full time but they also nicely lumped all liability on schools and provided utterly bollocks advice that is impossible to achieve

Just saying should be full time and hoping the magic fairies fix it as Gav the knobhead has it a massive joke.

What a shitshow

I’m so tired of all this coronashit

[quote Hercwasonaroll]@PicsInRed
How about the fact they very publicly and loudly opposed the reopening of schools in the first place? Even keyworker provision was sternly frowned up at the outset.

Bullshit.[/quote]
Beat me to it.

I've made nothing up.

www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/coronavirus-schools-reopen-when-teachers-covid-lockdown-a9608816.html

schoolsweek.co.uk/coronavirus-unions-urge-government-to-step-back-from-june-1-school-reopening-plan/

This is not a government decision but individual school policies though. I would suggest taking it up with the governors.

@whyDo1T @Mum2Girls19

This is from the government website so perhaps email it over to your school.

@Wolfie11

I am in Scotland and as far as I am aware, under the current guidelines my childminder will not be allowed to collect my son from school. Apparently children are not allowed to go from one care setting to another.

I'm in Scotland too, and I've had an email from our Out of School Club that they'll be open for breakfast and after school club from August providing the kids are in FT. They serve 3 different primary schools.

Pics

The first article is unions asking the government for clarity about the practical issues in September.

The second one is totally irrelevant to September.

There was a lot of compromise engaged in to get schools open again and none of that compromise gave a shit about the financial effect on mothers and the direct consequential impact on their children.

"There was a lot of compromise engaged in to ensure that schools, which continue to be responsible for a very large chunk of weekly outbreaks and need most of the wriggle room available when infections are still quite high, could open with bubbles of 15 under strict conditions and without extra funding for additional staff.
The virus clearly did not give a shit about the need for working mothers, including teachers, to access wraparound care as was the case before."

There, fixed it for you.