No Wraparound Care from September

[Mum2Girls19]

School has advised that they are not offering wrap around care from September as bubbles cannot be mixed.
They are thinking that part time places are also the way forward as they cannot social distance properly in a smaller place.
Further information hasnt been announced yet
Im a bit lost of how Im going to work without wrap around care, yes im working from home but who knows how long that will be for

Anyone else??

If you can't get a childminder or anyone else then yes, I guess you and many others in similar situations will have to quit or reduce hours.

This isn't a problem at all for the government as has been explained on many similar threads. There will be so many unemployed looking for work, and there will be minor differences in benefits paid to person A or person B.

Those with grandparents on tap will come out ahead.

I'm really hopeful that the government provides revised more helpful guidance on this in the coming weeks. My job will be impossible to do without wraparound when I'm required back in the office, and even when WFH it makes a huge divide between those with primary aged children and those without when I have to decline meetings all the time for school run.

The irony being that I suspect a lot of teachers will also be in this quandary of not being able to work without wraparound. The government really doesn't live in the real world at all, does it

I work in the breakfast club at our school &am also an LBS.
Our Breakfast Club will re open in September.we haven't been told how/what measures will be put in yet though.

Why aren't settings allowing childminders to pick up? Our school has had childminders doing drop off and pick up since half term- surely that reduces adults waiting at the school gate?

We have a similar issue. Our child attends a nursery that is joined to a prep school. They will only be offering the nursery for the hours that the prep school is open. This obviously doesn't work for anyone with a full-time job. No idea what we're supposed to do.

I've not heard anything from our school's provider (private company). I think they are offering holiday care at another local school so that's hopeful. I will certainly be sympathetic towards parents who can't collect their children on time but if I have meetings after school that are confidential they won't be able to stay with me I'm afraid.

The government really doesn't live in the real world at all, does it

The govt may not have done much to deal with this, but it isn't mandating it - the unions are blocking the full opening of schools, and consequently, wrap around care.

All of this multi bubble bullshit is nothing more than window dressing, which will effect nothing and also effectively stops holiday clubs properly reopening.

The purpose of the ‘bubbles’ is that if a child in a bubble gets a positive test, the whole bubble self isolates for 2 weeks. Schools have now been back with bubbles for 6 weeks. I wonder how many positive cases there have been, requiring a bubble to go home? I don’t know of any, at my (9 bubble) school or any teacher friends’ schools. Does anyone on here know of any?
Schools dictating only parents can collect is bonkers.

We are yet to receive any details of after school clubs etc, but it’s going to be a nightmare if there isn’t any. I work from home (always have done) but the school run is an hour round trip. 3-5 is prime meetings time for me as a lot of my team is in the US. I can’t just disappear offline for an hour each afternoon.

Oh and my school are offering staff run (but not external) clubs and wrap around care from September. So it must be individual schools making these decisions, it’s not the government (for once)

I would hope that if you explain this to the teacher beforehand, they would be kind enough to keep your child for the extra 10-15 mins after school of their own accord. I would have them sit and read a book in the classroom while I dismissed the other children, which can easily take 10 minutes.

Not if you have to have all the children out by the set time so classrooms can be cleaned.

My Primary have said no breakfast club and no after school clubs unless guidance changes and the bubbles can mix.
I'm going to have to sort something out.

the unions are blocking the full opening of schools, and consequently, wrap around care.

Not true, as most here know. Wrap around care is very often provided by different companies. If you'd read the guidance posted up thread you'd see who is putting obstacles in the way of wraparound care, and it's not teachers, who use it for the longest hours at our school.

To be completely honest, the whole bubble thing isn't going to work at all. They're suggesting year group bubbles. What about school buses? What about siblings? There's already massively contamination there. If one child in Year 7 on school bus A has Covid, then they'll give it to all the children on bus. Then that's at least one child in each year group. They arrive at school and go into their year group bubbles and everyone gets it.
It would make far more sense to do bubbles based on school buses or postcode. Then you don't need any cross over.

Our school are having wrap around care so it's not all schools (and ours have been really strict with limiting numbers so far-haven't let year 6 back only had year 1 a couple of weeks ago etc)

@PicsInRed

The government really doesn't live in the real world at all, does it

The govt may not have done much to deal with this, but it isn't mandating it - the unions are blocking the full opening of schools, and consequently, wrap around care.

All of this multi bubble bullshit is nothing more than window dressing, which will effect nothing and also effectively stops holiday clubs properly reopening.

What proof do you have for his claim that the unions are responsible?

I am in Scotland and as far as I am aware, under the current guidelines my childminder will not be allowed to collect my son from school. Apparently children are not allowed to go from one care setting to another.

The bubbles are a good idea in theory, but in reality there are so many siblings in different bubbles that they are all linked anyway.

I’m worried sick. My daughter is starting school in September, no one can tell me on what basis she’ll go back, whether there is after school care available etc. My nursery has been shut and won’t open until September. I can’t carry on juggling much longer and I have no idea what will happen will the office re-opens as I can’t work and commute if there is no wrap-around.

I would go back to school and say that the guidance explicitly says wraparound should be offered. Say you expect them to offer something and you will be contacting governors. Parents need to push back against this hard.

@Barbie222

the unions are blocking the full opening of schools, and consequently, wrap around care.

Not true, as most here know. Wrap around care is very often provided by different companies. If you'd read the guidance posted up thread you'd see who is putting obstacles in the way of wraparound care, and it's not teachers, who use it for the longest hours at our school.

Correct. But often on school premises and coming under the banner of bubble mixing. There was a lot of compromise engaged in to get schools open again and none of that compromise gave a shit about the financial effect on mothers and the direct consequential impact on their children.

The guidelines do say wraparound care is ok to go ahead

My daughter is starting reception in September but they won't tell me if wraparound care is happening or not but they did say it goes against the bubbles. I'm a secondary teacher so have been frantically trying to find a childminder as my dh doesn't have flexible hours either. It's a nightmare!

My dd will be exposed to her school bubble, a childminder bubble and the hundreds of kids I teach at secondary. The country is practically one massive bubble!

What proof do you have for his claim that the unions are responsible?

How about the fact they very publicly and loudly opposed the reopening of schools in the first place? Even keyworker provision was sternly frowned up at the outset.