Is being a short man equivalent to a women who is overweight?

[DreamChaser23]

i had this discussion with someone and I feel there is some truth in it.

Men who are overweight get away a lot more than women who are overweight I.e. relationships aren't as negatively affected compared to women.

And short women in height don't suffer as much as short men. Just look at how the media made people believe that most ideal men are meant to be tall over 6 feet. When in reality the average height of men is around 5 foot 9 IN the US and 5 foot 10 UK.

Being a short man and a women who is overweight does make it harder when it comes to relationships

My husband isn't a tall chap. 5"8 or 5"9 I think. But I'm 5"3, so that's fine.

I wouldn't be falling over myself to date a man who was shorter than me, or only a little bit taller. But by the same token, I wouldn't want to date a man who was a giant.
I often see very tall men with very petite women, and it kind of looks like dad and daughter... I get a bit of a squiffy feeling when the size difference is astronomical.

I'm 5ft 2, DH is 5ft 7 and stocky. Lovely hugs touching all the way down!

I’ve always found tall men a turn off.

If you don't want to date a short man then you don't want to date a short man and that's that, shallow or no, no means no. End of. If sexual attraction is important to you then that is sacrosanct.

I dont see it as "missing out" - thats probably why! I have dated shorter men and no, I'm definitely not missing out. My DH is tall and he's perfect for me 🥰

Urgh, I'm totally sick of this idea that we should have to "work" to find someone attractive. As if its some kind of noble quality.

No. You cannot help who you find attractive, its a primal thing that develops from a very young age. There is no missing out if you dont find a specific attribute attractive. There are plenty of people in the world and there is a lid for every pot. If you choose to rule out short men then you arent missing out because thats not what you find attractive FGS!
I dont know why women are constantly told this, its bizarre. Men arent told constantly that they should "work" to find women attractive or that they are missing out by not dating overweight women or women they dont find attractive. Sorry, but its BS.

I think what the people are trying to say with regards to "missing out" is that you can hold an ideal all you like

Don't be terribly surprised if you end up with someone quite different from that ideal though

Like 25 years ago my "ideal woman" would not be the ideal woman I've been happily married to for the past 24 years. I don't feel like I compromised on my desires I feel like I improved on them

People should absolutely only fuck who they want to, I don't think anyone is suggesting differently

But if you don’t fancy shorter men then you won’t see it as “missing out” will you? It’s all about individual perception.
It seems it’s always other people who comment on someone missing out or making a thing of it. I really wouldn’t worry about it- let people date whom they want and if you feel they are missing out then that’s up to them to deal with isn’t it? You can’t control what other people choose to do or whom they choose to date so let it go. I think people are getting too invested in other people’s dating choices here.

@AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter agree!! My DH is very tall too and I’m certain I’m not missing out! Other women can date short men if they wish to. My personal preferences are not something I have any interest in overlooking thanks.

In a world where Tom Holland, James McEvoy and Oscar Isaac exist I don't know how anyone can say that they don't fancy "short" men.

What makes height a deciding factor above all else?

I don't rule out for physical things ever because to me the vastly more important thing is character - but didn't you ever fancy Zac Efron? Or a Jonas brother? Or Darren Criss from Glee? Daniel Radcliffe? Pete Wentz? Him from Hunger Games? Robert Downey Jnr? Usher? Kanye? Kevin Hart? Gael Garcia Bernal? Niall Horan? Kit Harrington? Marky-Mark? Prince? Jack Black? Seth Green? Jon Stewart? The cast of Entourage???

@ChavvySexPond I can 100% honestly say that I don’t fancy any of those men. I also don’t fancy LOTS of other men. I have a very specific set of ideals that make me weak at the knees - short doesn’t cut it.

@ChavvySexPond I can 100% honestly say that I don’t fancy any of those men

Yup- I dont fancy any of them either. Prince was sexy as hell when performing but I couldn't date a man who came up to my shoulder. For me, thats a huge, huge turn off. I like a man who can dominate me and make me feel feminine and he just wouldnt cut it in that way, although I loved him and his music.

BTW- I love your user name chavvysexpond 😃

I don’t fancy any of those people, you could change it and say the same for overweight people as well and list over weight celebrities, then says I don’t know how anyone can say they don’t fancy fat people. celebrities aren’t really comparable to real life people, but like I said I don’t fancy any of those people anyway.

I’m surprised at the people answering this as if it’s about them personally. It’s not. No one is disputing that some people fancy short men or fat women. That’s not th discussion. No one is saying no one fancies folks in these categories.

What’s being discussed is the macro level not the micro, that in general men prefer slimmer women and women prefer taller men.

The fact that someone personally fancies a short bloke or an over eight woman is irrelevant because no one is saying no one fancies folks with these attributes. Clearly many do, the point is for many it is not a desirable attribute.

I’m 5ft 2 and my husband was 6ft3 and I didn’t look like his daughter ffs. What a weird and gross thing to think!

@Bluntness100

I’m surprised at the people answering this as if it’s about them personally. It’s not. No one is disputing that some people fancy short men or fat women. That’s not th discussion. No one is saying no one fancies folks in these categories.

What’s being discussed is the macro level not the micro, that in general men prefer slimmer women and women prefer taller men.

The fact that someone personally fancies a short bloke or an over eight woman is irrelevant because no one is saying no one fancies folks with these attributes. Clearly many do, the point is for many it is not a desirable attribute.

That's always the way it is on MN though, isn't it?

People insist on making discussions all about them. Sure, you may fancy short men but survey after survey, and evidence from OLD, shows that the (vast) majority of women don't. Which doesn't mean they may not fancy one particular short man, but generally speaking, they prefer tall men.

Not sure why anyone can argue against this really. It's one of the most universal preferences among women.

@ChavvySexPond

In a world where Tom Holland, James McEvoy and Oscar Isaac exist I don't know how anyone can say that they don't fancy "short" men.

What makes height a deciding factor above all else?

I don't rule out for physical things ever because to me the vastly more important thing is character - but didn't you ever fancy Zac Efron? Or a Jonas brother? Or Darren Criss from Glee? Daniel Radcliffe? Pete Wentz? Him from Hunger Games? Robert Downey Jnr? Usher? Kanye? Kevin Hart? Gael Garcia Bernal? Niall Horan? Kit Harrington? Marky-Mark? Prince? Jack Black? Seth Green? Jon Stewart? The cast of Entourage???

Answer to your question: No I have never fancied any of those men. And not simply because they're short, but that wouldn't help. Yes, I'm sure they're devestated to hear that!

Anyway, just because individual short men may be attractive doesn't negate the general rule that women prefer tall men. To give another example, men may find Halle Berry or Jennifer Lopez attractive, but that doesn't mean they generally prefer women in their 50s.

It is difficult not to take it personally when someone talks about the general, class-level unattractiveness of people who look like you. Yes, intellectually we know we shouldn't, but is it really a surprise that people do?

Again I'm not saying people should date people they don't fancy, only that if you have really strict criteria about what you do and don't find attractive you may miss out.

But it's not about having criteria that you make yourself stick to. It's about knowing yourself and your preferences. Someone who says "I don't fancy blond men" is talking about their likes based on experience up to now. It doesn't mean that if they later in life unexpectedly swoon over a blond man they're going to say "Nope. I decided I don't like blond men, so I can't date one."

Thank god my short husband found me and didn't have to date some of shallow fools im hearing about!

Thank god my short husband found me and didn't have to date some of shallow fools im hearing about

LOL I presume your husband fancies you? If so, then he's just as "shallow" isnt he? 😆 Its not shallow to want to be sexually attracted to someone you are going to have sex with!

It is difficult not to take it personally when someone talks about the general, class-level unattractiveness of people who look like you. Yes, intellectually we know we shouldn't, but is it really a surprise that people do?

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For those of average height and desirable weight this may be a dispassionate discourse but the thread is literally about me

@AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter bless, you don't really get it. Lol right back at you, if that's how we communicate nowadays!

Wow some of you are really angry that some women don’t fancy short men aren’t you?
Do you feel the same way about men who won’t date overweight women?

Some people on here are unable to consider anything beyond the level of individual preference. It is well-established that there are many societal advantages of being a tall man, both in earning potential and dating preferences. These are broad trends - an outlier or your individual anecdote does not disprove a general trend.

mashable.com/2017/11/14/height-online-dating/?europe=true

www.gq.com/story/tall-men-overrated

qz.com/1720278/why-are-tall-people-more-successful/