Making the wearing of a mask manditory

[weepingwillow22]

Has anyone else noticed the worldometer projections for UK deaths have changed significantly since the relaxation of restrictions last week?
covid19.healthdata.org/united-kingdom

The deaths are now predicted to be back up to 800 a day by november with a second peak in cases surpassing the first one.

The graphs do however show that this can be avoided if mask wearing is made compulsory.

AIBU to think that the wearing of a mask or visor (excepting those eho cannot wear them for medical conditions) should be made manditory in all indoor public places in order to avoid this second peak.

If cases rise again to the extent projected here another national lockdown will be required resulting in more job losses, school closures and unnecessary deaths.

Surely the wearing of a mask is a small price to pay to avoid a second peak particularly as the scientific evidence now points to it being highly effective in preventing asymptomatic spread.
www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

[quote Yellownotblue]@Evelefteden, have you never worn a scarf or cagoule? Did you get poisoned by it?

Please can you direct me to any source showing that breathing through cotton material causes sustained harm?[/quote]
She of course I have. But neither over my mouth. As they are not meant for that..

But that wasn’t the point. You was taking the piss out of a poster for saying that there were dangerous chemicals in the process of making material.. She was actually right.

Yes not she

No one is really talking about the manufacture of fabric here. it's spectacularly missing the point.

I put scarves around my face most winter and it's fine.

If I am prepared for my family and I to wear clothes without researching every single one I am happy to wear a fabric mask. No ill effects yet

You don’t wear them over your mouth though.. or do you

totally. we're quite robust.

@sleepingpup

No one is really talking about the manufacture of fabric here. it's spectacularly missing the point.

I put scarves around my face most winter and it's fine.

Actually if you scroll back posters were talking about it

i'm not scared of cotton tbh.

@sleepingpup

totally. we're quite robust.

That’s great.

@sleepingpup

i'm not scared of cotton tbh.

@Evelefteden, don’t move to Canada/Scandinavia, as you won’t survive the winter without protecting your face from the cold, particularly around your mouth.

I lived in a northern country for three decades, and I’ve literally never heard of ill effects caused from breathing through a scarf. Pretty sure it would be known by now, you know with people dropping like flies in cold places.

It's those microscopic particles from the material were one of the reasons why they are advised against for medical people. It's because of those little particles why even ppe gets changed regularly.

Gov advice to medical staff

www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-to-wear-and-make-a-cloth-face-covering/how-to-wear-and-make-a-cloth-face-covering

There is insufficient evidence to consider homemade masks or cloth masks in health and care settings.

So if none medical aren't useful for medical staff then how do people expect them to miraculously work across society? An extra boil or Iron it? Don't these people who do these things have access to industrial machines to wash these things?

If homemade was any good, government would have jumped all over this. Imagine how much they could save every year if your home made ones were useful? They could just chuck them in with the bedding, nightwear and towels patients use wash and re-distribute..

nope the homemade / cotton masks are a barrier method whilst you are in the supermarket for a couple of hours not whilst doing surgery. figs.

And a scarf is different than a tshirt which many are using to make a mask.

Scarfs, balaclavas etc have all been designed with this in mind that people will use them to cover their mouths etc. These all have various control qualities they have to adhere to.

Patients only have to cover their mouth if someone goes near to them or being transferred elsewhere.and the staff aren't routinely wearing them across the whole hospital. Read the hospital guidelines and this is across the world.

Oh and sorry I was mistaken, there is still a ppe shortage. Also think I posted 2 instead of 3 about the age on the gov homemade mask link.

It's not just surgeons who wear masks in hospital departments.

[quote Yellownotblue]@Evelefteden, don’t move to Canada/Scandinavia, as you won’t survive the winter without protecting your face from the cold, particularly around your mouth.

I lived in a northern country for three decades, and I’ve literally never heard of ill effects caused from breathing through a scarf. Pretty sure it would be known by now, you know with people dropping like flies in cold places.[/quote]
Yellow my post was to purely prove you wrong. I don’t care if people wear masks. Harmful chemicals do go in to the process of making materials. You should educate yourself before taking the piss out of other posters because they have a different opinion than you - and more knowledge by the looks of things.

Yeah - figs!

I would prefer that visors had to be worn over face masks.
More comfortable and easier to communicate.

Thanks @Evelefteden

Another questions going back to the original mandatory for all no exceptions.

What about those that have had it and been released showing they no longer have it? Who are they protecting whilst they breathe in potentially harmful things?

Like I said my brain is a pain, always with the questions.

Cannot resist since it was suggested I am spouting conspiracy stuff

I would be looking at how the sudden influx of people also buying masks, filters and kitchen roll is having on the economy. Who started this rumour to begin with.

But then there was those saying the track and trace stuff and testing was a conspiracy with the mp links.

So who is to know what is real and what isn't.

It's not just surgeons who wear masks in hospital departments

yep - it was ironic. I wasn't listing every medical professional.

What about those that have had it and been released showing they no longer have it? Who are they protecting whilst they breathe in potentially harmful things?

Whilst no one is sure how long antibodies last - erm, everyone.

Out here in RL "the potentially harmful" thing is Corona Virus.

@Evelefteden, harmful chemicals go into the production of lots of things. Bread, milk are packaged in plastic. Do you think you’re ingesting the plastic bag when you’re eating bread?

Why stop there? Do you think hair colour products seep through your skull? What about make up, does it colour your inside organs? Do you think chewing gum lives for 6 years inside your body? Does your body absorb water when you soak in a bath?

Your posts read like a collection of tin foil hat musings. What if cotton contained harmful chemicals that kill you? What if the moon was made of cheese? What if airplanes don’t actually exist?

So much energy devoted to denying common sense, which is that whatever prevents the spread of droplets out of your mouth, reduces the risk of infection. But yeah, let’s focus on the production methods for cotton T-shirts. Because that’s really important right now, with millions of infections worldwide and probably in excess of 60,000 excess deaths in the U.K. so far.

@canigooutyet

Thanks *@Evelefteden*

Another questions going back to the original mandatory for all no exceptions.

What about those that have had it and been released showing they no longer have it? Who are they protecting whilst they breathe in potentially harmful things?

Like I said my brain is a pain, always with the questions.

canigooutyet no one really knows if you can get reinfected yet. I don’t think there is much info on it at the moment.

For those who find their glasses steam up try a neoprene one, they're lighter than you'd expect and because they stretch to fit you don't get that gap.

[quote Yellownotblue]@Evelefteden, harmful chemicals go into the production of lots of things. Bread, milk are packaged in plastic. Do you think you’re ingesting the plastic bag when you’re eating bread?

Why stop there? Do you think hair colour products seep through your skull? What about make up, does it colour your inside organs? Do you think chewing gum lives for 6 years inside your body? Does your body absorb water when you soak in a bath?

Your posts read like a collection of tin foil hat musings. What if cotton contained harmful chemicals that kill you? What if the moon was made of cheese? What if airplanes don’t actually exist?

So much energy devoted to denying common sense, which is that whatever prevents the spread of droplets out of your mouth, reduces the risk of infection. But yeah, let’s focus on the production methods for cotton T-shirts. Because that’s really important right now, with millions of infections worldwide and probably in excess of 60,000 excess deaths in the U.K. so far.[/quote]
Yeah post long essays but you were proved wrong. You took the piss out of a poster saying she was making conspiracy theories up. When in fact she was right.