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Where are those who predicted 18 months lockdown now

444 replies

AfterAte · 05/07/2020 22:18

Firstly I realise that the lockdown in England is only being eases not ended. I am also aware that it is entirely possible there will be a second lockdown necessitated by a second spike. Finally, I am aware of and grateful for the sacrifices of those frontline workers, sad for those who have lost loved ones and both aware and grateful for the sacrifices of those who died in the 2 world wars and in other conflicts.

On 21st March on this website a thread entitled "How long are you expecting this to go on for?" was posted. Several posters speculated that "this" would last 18 months or longer and others also said there would likely be a war as well. I realise there has been terrible suffering and my mental health has been I impacted. However, rightly or wrongly, the lockdown is significantly eased and plans are being made for a near future which can in no way be described as lockdown. I wondered if any of those who predicted 18 months would like to comment here and perhaps admit that they were wrong. I'm afraid I still see their motivation as primarily to drag others down, so I'm not holding my breath, but neither am I prepared not to call them out. They've ruined MN, and they made an awful awful time worse.

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wildone84 · 05/07/2020 23:27

@FilthyforFirth

Well you havent been on the same threads I have, or your extreme health anxiety is clouding your judgement.
I don't have problems with anxiety.

I'm just saying, I haven't seen what you have.

Viviennemary · 05/07/2020 23:28

What a drama queen type post. I didn't even think there would be any sort if lock down and then when there was I thought it would only be for a couple of weeks. I was wrong. So what.

gobbyblovby · 05/07/2020 23:29

@Nihiloxica I was also surprised by the number of posters who knew what Covid was & how to handle it before WHO did. Their expertise & background apparently & because they are just so much more intelligent 🙄

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cakeandchampagne · 05/07/2020 23:30

“They’ve ruined MN....” & “...admit that they were wrong.”
Flowers
Consider getting some professional help.

RedToothBrush · 05/07/2020 23:30

What I find fascinating is someone saying people were catatrophising only to then write themselves that that had 'ruined MN'.

They detonated their posts with every intention of making others feel downhearted, which I find very bad behaviour.

Oh for god sake.

Stop being personally offended by someone having a different opinion to you.

Everyone has different ways of coping. Some are different to you. That doesn't make them bad people or have 'very bad behaviour'.

Absolutely ridiculous nonsense.

Use the 'hide' feature if it bothers you to that degree.

There is PLENTY of other stuff on MN to look at and talk about.

ChristmasCarcass · 05/07/2020 23:30

I actually said July (based on what I was hearing at work - NHS). So I am now feeling very smug, thank you for reminding me how right I was Grin

Work also predicting second wave in September. Will check back then and see if they were right.

Smallsteps88 · 05/07/2020 23:31

The second group were posters who were motivated by a desire to drag others down, often waiting for people to speculate about say a 12 week lockdown before knowingly scoffing at their supposed naïvete and taking a gleeful delight of bursting the bubble of optimism that some good things would return. They detonated their posts with every intention of making others feel downhearted, which I find very bad behaviour.

You seem to remember these posters very specifically. Why don’t you PM them directly rather than post a thread they may not see and may not realise is about them as there were many threads discussing the issue at the time.

wildone84 · 05/07/2020 23:31

If you're this affected by strangers' speculation on the internet, I suggest you take a break from Mumsnet. I say that in all seriousness. It's not healthy and you can be happier without it.

LisaLops · 05/07/2020 23:31

As someone who is sat reading this in Leicester who is still currently under lockdown due to Corona virus, I find this thread both premature with a touch of denial.
There are thousands of us in Leicester who followed the rules and acted accordingly, yet we are still having to stay inside because Coronavirus hasn't yet finished it's carnage due to those who didn't abide.
With restrictions being eased around the country, it's just enabling the virus to find easier hosts like the ones in Leicester who didn't follow the rules.

youhave4substitutes · 05/07/2020 23:32

@hammeringinmyhead you've shared a thread where everyone reassured the OP that it wouldn't be 18 months until she sees her parents. That it would be a few months (which it was).

The pp who said "ever" has been misrepresented by you there, they said they don't see life going back to normal for 18 months (if ever). Neither does Chris Whitty so unless you've as much insight as him I'll go with his opinion.

OP - you sound desperate for people to "admit they were wrong" about something that hasn't happened yet. They may still be right Confused

stayathomer · 05/07/2020 23:32

No one should feel smug or be laughing about any of this. Whatever happens it's affected a lot of people and a lot of the people who predicted things that didn't/may not be happening might have been panicking or reacting to how it affected them. yabvvu

shinynewapple2020 · 05/07/2020 23:32

I think you'll find OP that there are still posters stating that they won't be holidaying , eating out, doing non-essential shopping or sending their children to school until mid-2021 so I don't think they've gone away.

Truth is none of us know for sure.

I remember posting early on when people were asking about future holiday or wedding plans that they would definitely be able to do anything planned for August / September as in my mind this was months away and it would have long gone by then. It seems that I was wrong.

stayathomer · 05/07/2020 23:33

ps they haven't ruined MN

thewisp · 05/07/2020 23:34

They're all busily predicting second waves

Very accurate.

I'd like to know where the teachers and parents are who were spreading fear on here about children returning too.

hammeringinmyhead · 05/07/2020 23:36

[quote youhave4substitutes]@hammeringinmyhead you've shared a thread where everyone reassured the OP that it wouldn't be 18 months until she sees her parents. That it would be a few months (which it was).

The pp who said "ever" has been misrepresented by you there, they said they don't see life going back to normal for 18 months (if ever). Neither does Chris Whitty so unless you've as much insight as him I'll go with his opinion.

OP - you sound desperate for people to "admit they were wrong" about something that hasn't happened yet. They may still be right Confused[/quote]
It's not really relevant though, is it? The OP asked about one aspect (seeing family) and that poster pops up with 2 sentences on LIFE WILL NOT BE NORMAL FOR 12 MONTHS IF EVERRR. Dun dun dun. What's the need? It's the perfect example of popping up like whack a mole to quash any positive hopes.

Pootle40 · 05/07/2020 23:36

I do get what you mean @AfterAte.

Some people just have a very catastrophic way of thinking and I agree that some of that was a bit disturbing and I did worry for those people who were having complete off the chart predictions.

Snowdown24 · 05/07/2020 23:37

Well you could be wrong and them right, as it is looking like it’s going to take roughly 18 months for things to resemble normal again.

This is a very weird thread, it’s not healthy for you to be so emotionally involved like this

GlomOfNit · 05/07/2020 23:37

OP, you do mention the negative effect it had on your own mental health in your first post. Having acknowledged that, can you not also acknowledge that if you find opinions counter to your own triggering, social media sites like this might not be the best place to seek support and positivity?

Aside from that, it's ludicrous - sorry! - to assert that one social media site among thousands is responsible for bringing your mood down. If MN is the problem for you, then you know what to do. If you find some areas of MN more in accord with the way you feel, then you know which areas to avoid. There is no compulsion here - you don't have to read certain threads and you can hide entire topics.

That said, I really think it will be helpful for you to accept that some of the rest of humanity are going to post things that might upset you, or with which you don't agree. You really mustn't take it personally, but you don't have a god-given right not to be offended by another person's take on a situation.

lottiegarbanzo · 05/07/2020 23:38

You don't know others' motivation. It's very arrogant to believe that you do. Other people are different from you.

Time2change2 · 05/07/2020 23:38

Because some people like to be Debbie downers on pretty much everything. Literally love to take something scary and amplify it 10 fold. They do this because they are scared themselves and making others more scared than they are makes themselves feel more secure.
Some people are pessimistic. They see the worst and then imagine that x10. This is because by doing this, imagining the worst case, their brain can cope with the actual reality - they have already imagined far worse. It’s a survival trick.
These people are still there. Now however, they are still reading wildly exaggerated MSM articles and declaring that another lockdown is imminent. There will be local lockdowns for years. Don’t expect anything nice or good for the next 2 years at least. Stock up for the next shortage of toilet roll. Oh look Spain is seeing another huge spike, don’t expect any education for your kids any time soon. They are still there, just singing a different tune

Nihiloxica · 05/07/2020 23:40

I'd like to know where the teachers and parents are who were spreading fear on here about children returning too.

Have you hidden all schools threads?

There are still plenty of people who think education should be banned forever and mothers should raise their children alone inside their houses and never let them out.

thewisp · 05/07/2020 23:40
  • OP is referring to those frothing at the mouth posters screaming at people 'dont leave your house, dont even go in your garden!' 'Dont you dare visit shops, survive on fresh air and good will' 'leaving your house is literally murdering your neighbours' etc etc.

It's not that it isn't as bad as some people were predicting but rather it hasn't been as bad as some were hoping. At least that is my take on the type of posters OP is referring to.*

Exactly this. I'm amazed that this thread has so many people up in arms about the OP. Mumsnet was depressing during lockdown, which is what spawned the anti-dementor threads.

Rumbletumbleinmytummy · 05/07/2020 23:41

Your post reads incredibly entitled. If people having opinions really makes the pandemic worse for you, or worsens your mental health maybe you need to take some initiative and sort yourself out.

Many, many people have had worsening mental health over the course of the pandemic. I myself have been affected mentally and physically, but if were alive were still the lucky ones.

And for what it's worth I think instead of coping the hump that people may have said lockdown would last for 18 months, maybe you should research a bit.

There are hotspots in this country with high rates that are looking very likely to go back into lockdown.
I live in one of those areas. Pubs and restaurants and shops all open in our town currently, very little social distancing going on. I went for a drive to see what it's like out there, whether it's a few people out. It looks like a normal sunny July weekend with all the outdoor pub seating as busy as usual. Some restaurants appear to be doing no social distancing at all. I saw 3 people wearing masks today.
Our numbers are going to take a long time to go down, and when they do theres still a possibility of a second wave. If it takes us until late Aug to get the first wave done with, and a second wave comes during September/October and a second wave is rumoured to be worse than the first wave, how long will it take to get the numbers back down?

Personally I'm thinking more along the lines of a year from the very start were hopefully going to be completely done with lockdown but god knows how long it will take for things to return to normal.

Time2change2 · 05/07/2020 23:42

My favourite comment on MN during the whole of lockdown was ‘you shouldn’t be visiting the shop for bread and milk - they are not essentials! Absolute classic that will stay in my mind for a long time