Is anyone else boycotting Tesco's for giving £80,000 to Mermaids?

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Just that really... I was shocked, especially given all the news coverage there has been about the issues recently. I would have expected them to give it to an uncontroversial charity at the very least - and ideally one that most of their customers would like to support

@EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire don’t bite, no posting history says it all.

So how come User can see it as well then and gave examples, and I quoted?

Because user didn’t link to or quote a single post to support his/her personal opinions about Mumsnet, that’s how come.

So your evidence of transphobia is someone else complaining that everyone is transphobic? No we asked for direct evidence

@LemonadeAndDaisyChains

It's only on the previous page, not a million miles away? Here. Again. Users post. Who can clearly see it too. But then "it's not true we can't see it when it's pointed out under our noses" - erm, clearly not the case. As I said already.

Noo. Im gender critical but some shit is starting to wear bloody thin
Those using the GC tag to try and excuse outright bigotry and hatred of trans people
Those who think right wing bellends who hate trans people purely because they hate any difference and radical feminists are some sort of kindred spirits
The posting of preloaded stuff like this, just so people can have a pile on to any dissenter
the insane paranoia

What do you mean ‘as I said already’? You didn’t say that, another poster did. Are you a sock?

I read what user said, twice, it was an opinion not a quote of hate speech, or bigotry.

So your evidence of transphobia is someone else complaining that everyone is transphobic?

I'll boycott them because I dont think sterilising children is ever ok.
Im shocked that anyone thinks it is.
Can anyone tell me how or why its become ok, a thing that massive businesses and celebrities endorse in fact, to sterilize and mutilate traumatised, autistic and gay kids?
How the fuck did we get here?
And how do we get back?
I wanna see heads roll for this, its fucking sick and twisted.

What do you mean ‘as I said already’? You didn’t say that, another poster did

Are you actually reading the posts?
Yes I have already said about people pretending not to see, even when it's under their noses.
That was me, not user.
Why are people pretending they can't understand?

Based on the current scientific concerns over puberty blockers and the upcoming Judicial Review on the medicalised pathway for trans children I do not agree with the approach Mermaids take. I believe that they are advocating an approach may lead to a trans child making decisions that have irreversible consequences before they have had sufficient time to determine their identity in a way that is meaningful for them. My view is that the decision to transition is so significant that any irreversible medical steps should be taken by adults.

From six years old, my son came home telling me that other children had been telling him he must be a girl because he liked the colour pink and so on. These ideas come from home. They come from the parents who tell their sons they can't have pink things

It's tragic that this kind of nonsense is being put on children, PotholeParadise. I hope your son can brush it off and/or find better friends.

The current enforcement of sex-role stereotypes seems worse than in the ever-so-conservative 1950s. At least back then children weren't drugged into conforming.

Why are people pretending they can't understand?

Why can’t you give any examples of outright hatred of trans people on this thread, as opposed to what it’s actually about, concerns with the funding and support of a specific charity?

I cant understand how its ever ok to sterilize children.
Can you explain that daisy?
What makes it an ok thing to do?
Is it hateful or transphobic to wonder why giving cancer drugs to pubescent children might not be a moral or healthy thing to do?

don’t bite, no posting history says it all

Doesn't say anything, it just says they have no posting history, that doesn't automatically mean nefarious intentiions.
Could mean have name changed, or been a member a while but new to posting.
So not sure why you're trying to paint a poster saying something you don't agree with as someone to be wary of.
Although that probably doesn't fit your narrative to think it could be a genuine opinion.

I've traveled through the thread and I cannot see the "hate speech". Someone please help me out?

Anyone who has an issue with a childrens charity needs to get a grip

That’s an interesting position to take. So no children’s charity should be questioned, all activities should be supported, anyone with an issue or concern should be shut down?

I don’t believe any charity should be elevated beyond all scrutiny. And whatever your thoughts about transitioning children, any children’s organisation that dismisses safeguarding principles should be robustly questioned and held to account for failure to implement them.

Other children’s charities have been rightly challenged and subsequently folded for serious allegations, eg Kids Company.

Lemonades seems to have a remarkable ability , that of avoiding actually answering any question or contributing a thought to the discussion thread whilst at the same time implying that they are saying something of relevance and that their great words of wisdom are being ignored

Haven't read the whole thead but boycotting as a consumer can be like 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'. It also reminds be a bit of the dreaded 'cancel culture', so instead why not write to the CEO and say that you object and why; but don't threaten to withdraw your custom, if you don't really want to. The decision has probably been taken at quite a low level in the organisation with minimal oversight.

It's a children's charity in the same way as life matters is a pregnant women's charity and autism speaks is a charity for families of autistic people. (remembering the vocal "autism speaks doesn't speak for me" movement of 10 years or so ago)

Wow ... I'm learning so much... thank you everyone .

And yes Because I was that girl at 7 thinking I was a bit because I had brothers with the same interests as mine, is my reason too.... I was such a tomboy and fantasised about being a boy for years... as an adult, I'm a happy Mum and could well have been one of those sad girls in their 20s who are detransitioning having been persuaded that being trans was what they needed in their teens

Anyone who has an issue with a childrens charity needs to get a grip.

I hope all charities face the same rigour and scrutiny, regardless of their cause.

However, if we cannot shine a light on charities that work with children, then I'd say there are serious safeguarding concerns.

Do you advocate putting children on a pathway to plastic surgery? Would you advise an anorexic child that starvation or removing one's ribs will help them find happiness? Would you encourage their family to help feed that fantasy of being 5 stone? If not, why not?

So yes, I take issue with the medicalisation of kids re gender ID. I take issue with surgery. I take issue with sonebody who took their underage son abroad to be castrated and now advises parents. It's horrific and those who fail to question this need to get a grip.

As an aside, The Kids Company was a massive scandal. But maybe that should havebeen hushed up simply because it was connected to kids?

A charitable organisation is not automatically good, ethical or morally superior.

It’s a financial designation, that’s all!

@SkelingtonArgument

I'd think the majority of their customers do support Mermaids - I think you're probably in the minority.

I think she’s almost certainly in the majority. Most people I know think Mermaids is abhorrent and not a charity to be supported

Judging by the queues outside three Tesco stores in my area, include a very big store, she's in a pretty tiny minority.

Slightly confused. Looks fine to me - a trans and gender-diverse charity. Presuming it's against your beliefs or did they do something particular I'm not aware of?

Judging by the queues I would guess that no one there knows about the donation and very few have ever come across mermaids before

@LemonadeAndDaisyChains

Although that probably doesn't fit your narrative to think it could be a genuine opinion.

Using the inflammatory term ‘cis’ is not ‘having an opinion’. Now stop trying to distract from the question many have asked you, where is the ‘outright hatred’ posted on this thread?