State school teachers moonlighting as private tutors during their 'working' hours

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Should be sacked
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/state-school-teachers-moonlighting-private-22303681

@Spam88

If it's against the terms of their contract then of course they shouldn't really be doing it. But no one kicks up a fuss when teachers spend their evenings and weekends doing school work. Presumably in current circumstances parents are keen to have tutoring sessions during school hours as part of their homeschooling, so tutors are responding to that need. It's reasonable to assume that all their school work is still being completed to the required standard or they'd have been pulled up by management.

See also: no one complains about consultants (who earn a shit ton more than teachers) using nhs time and resources for private work.

This absolutely. If teachers (state and private) actually worked just the hours they were paid for, we wouldn’t even have an education system in this country. It would collapse overnight.

I can’t think of any other profession were people would willingly work a large excess of their contracted hours unpaid each week to keep an essential part of the country running.

@darkcaramel

And the picture is of who?

Why are you going through all of my posts, pothole? It is really a peculiar thing to do. Romeo stated so dark (me) is an expert on education and schooling, to which telling somebody to check their comprehension skills is perfectly reasonable, given I did not say or even hint this

check your comprehension skills and ^i could teach a chimp to be more rational are not even close, if you are trying to claim I’m Just As Bad.

giraffe, as I have repeatedly said, I think that a lot of the ‘teacher bashing’ threads are nothing of the sort. I am not insulted when somebody says their DDs teacher is rubbish, because I am not their DDs teacher. I am insulted when someone says I am less intelligent then a chimp because as explained, it is to me personally where the former is not, and also has its origins as an insult mired in racism.

The picture is Good Janet from the show The Good Place, who says she's "not a girl".

I'm not going through your posts, but I actually remember what you said earlier this afternoon and I have another page of this thread open in another tab to keep myself reminded of exactly what was said. I do this habitually during bunfights. More people should.

I’ve never seen it or actually heard of it so I won’t comment on that. I’m a bit baffled actually, but never mind.

Keeping tabs open and screenshots really isn’t necessary. I know what I said and have repeated it for your benefit and anybody else interested. I do not think it is comparable to comparing someone to an ape. How many times do I need to say this? It really is depressing, you know. Hasn’t this come up time and time again recently?

And ‘moaning’ is extremely dismissive

Telling people to grow up and stop being silly is extremely dismissive.

You’ve been deeply unpleasant, you were insulted, you accept it wasn’t racist.

I think you are pushing it to expect sympathy.

I think your phone or laptop is glitching there smile, it keeps posting the same thing over and over.

darkcaramel

Do you not see the irony in saying posters are dismissing your feelings when you have dismissed a whole group of posters feelings?

Do you not see the irony that you are complaining that you have been insulted, yet you have insulted others.

Do you not see the irony that you are moaning about people moaning.

But if it makes you feel better to switch up the game and claim martyrdom feel free.

Yes, it would be extremely offensive if I told someone who’d been racially abused to grow up and stop being silly giraffe but since I didn’t do that, it doesn’t really work as a comparison, does it?

Had the original post said and this post isn’t remotely rational do you seriously think I’d still be creating this amount of fuss about it?

It isn’t remotely ironic fripp

If someone disagrees with you, even strongly, that is fine.

What is NOT fine is to use language with racist overtures to try to humiliate that person

darkcaramel

Sigh all you like.

Switching up is a classic play that a lot of children have used.

I’m not switching anything up.

Telling someone they are talking bollocks is fine (including me, if you think I am.)

Telling someone their intelligence is sub par to a chimp is not fine.

Saying a footballer is a shit footballer is fine.

Saying a footballer is like a gorilla let loose on the pitch is not fine.

Saying that MM gets on your nerves is fine.

Saying MMs baby looks like a chimp is not fine.

That chimp paradox thing looks quite interesting, thanks whoever mentioned it.

darkcaramel

It’s interesting you won’t answer. Your right, obvs.

Does the colour of my skin matter to you smile?

I decided not to answer as I didn’t think it would matter, surely it doesn’t?

In a racial context, dark

References to gorillas, chimps and monkeys are unacceptable in a racial context.

There’s no blanket ban on references to other primates. PSHE resources about our ‘inner chimp’ are not offensive, as you implied.

You have accepted that there was no racial context here, and yet you keep bringing up racism as if the prohibition should apply even when there is no racial context.

If you said something like ‘best not to compare people to chimps when you are unaware of their ethnicity’, then there would probably be agreement.

darkcaramel

As you like, You keep insulting posters and then having ago when they come back in the same vein as you.

And feel free to keep policing threads. But it would be better if you did so as a voice of reason and not as an antagonist.

I don’t think the PSHE thing was offensive, giraffe, but ‘borderline inappropriate’ I would probably say, a bit like ‘cheeky monkey’, which has caused upset in the past although I accept probably not knowingly.

My ethnicity is honestly by the by here. People should not be compared to chimps. That really is the end of it - because if we accept that black people are compared to chimps to insult their appearance and intelligence, then when you insult a white person, it’s really saying that they are as stupid as a black person, which in a roundabout way is even worse! And yes, I accept that wasn’t the intention but my argument here is that use of language is often subconscious. Somewhere on a very long road we compare stupid (black) people to apes and that is absorbed. We need to stop doing that.

I do not “keep insulting posters” at all, fripp

I have said that some of the responses by teachers on here are childish and silly.

However this afternoon my only point has been that comparing people to apes is a bad idea: if that’s insulting posters then I’m sorry but I’m going to carry on.

Please do not compare people to apes - how is that insulting?

then when you insult a white person, it’s really saying that they are as stupid as a black person

Don’t be daft.

Being dismissive works both ways, giraffe

Historically, black people have been compared to apes.

It is a way of dehumanising them. You know this.

Therefore, if you insult a white person by comparing them to an ape, it is not ‘just’ an insult.

It is an insult that has been used specifically towards black people.

noble I agree with what you said.

darkcaramel as I said. Your right to disclose what you choose about yourself.

I can’t think of any other profession were people would willingly work a large excess of their contracted hours unpaid each week to keep an essential part of the country running.

Pretty much anyone working in a professional role in the public sector, social workers, police officers, nurses, medics, planning officers, procurator fiscals, children’s reporters all work outside of their contracted hours to keep essential services going.

The Chimp Paradox is very interesting @borntobequiet - there’s a very accessible book titled The Chimp Paradox (oddly enough) that’s worth reading if you’re interested.

Then please stop asking smile

The colour of my skin is NOT relevant to this discussion and I very much hope is not relevant to how you perceive my posts.