In September will the kids who have done homelearning have to sit bored at school while works repeated for the ones that haven't. Or will they start there new' year ' work as normal. Either way it's

[947EliseChalotte]

It's not fair either way. The bright kids who have done their homelearning will be held back while it's repeated for the ones which were unable too .....or if it's a new year start with work as normal the ones who didn't do homelearning will have missed work and won't understand. So either is unfair to either groups. So what are the plans for education for September? Repeating work missed from march or new work from sept? Which group will be disavantsged the ones who have done work or haven't ?

By not cutting content from GCSEs the government has put us secondary teachers in a really tricky position.

About 30% of my current y10s have been submitting work. For many of those, especially the 'invisible middle' kids the works been better than it would have been in class.

I teach a content heavy subject, we normally only finish 2 weeks before the exams. So I either carry on as normal and catch-up afterschool with those who need it, which Choc seems to be getting hate for, or reteach everything but do 14 weeks where I teach twice as fast as normal. Kids struggle with normal speed lessons.

Both options are crap.

All the other years will be fine as all ks3 gets repeated/extended at gcse, it just means the balance of recapping/new material will get distorted.

Not worried about current y12, they've really risen to the challenge and have done great remotely.

It’s just not true to say that any pupils have been left with no work

Are you involved with every school?

One of my DC’s teachers has been involved. He put up little videos, and actively taught online.
My other DC’s teacher did nothing bar put up ‘homework’ for the week on Monday. Eg Monday - page 31. Tuesday - page 32. Wednesday - page 33. And look at tv and look at bite size.
I was aware she was a poor teacher before lockdown. Many parents had voiced their concerns about her to no avail. I was not aware at just how poor she was. She did not provide any feedback to the homework. I am cross that she continued to receive full pay while not doing her job. And before anybody starts, she was not in school teaching key worker’s kids, nor was she sick and she does not have children. She is simply a dreadful teacher.

I can’t wait for all the posts on here in September with people whining their kids are behind when they haven’t been arsed to do a single piece of home learning for months!

My children thrive in the school environment. They work hard and do very well. It’s a little unfair to say they have no work ethic just because homeschooling has been tough. At home you have so many other domestic things going on whereas school is a place for learning.
We have done bits. The basics, like reading, spellings and some maths. Things they would have done at home anyway to support their learning.
But because they’ve missed a big chunk of the “bigger work”, they will probably be behind. I know that when they go to Secondary school they will have lots of homework to do, but by then they won’t be 5, 7 and 9 and will have matured, and I will have had the opportunity to buy them a laptop and other learning resources! Not all of us were able to go out and buy brand new devices when school came to an abrupt end back in March.

Yep, the kids who have a good work ethic will be ahead. And that’s the way life should be 👍🏼

@PollyPelargonium52

The swots are usually in the higher band classes.

Do you have DC? Do you teach them this ridiculous attitude?

I'll be pressing on with the curriculum and those who haven't done the work will be in after school intervention with me, I've already emailed their parents. I'm not holding back those who have been working hard.

This seems like a great compromise. I don’t understand why posters are saying it is unfair. To me, Choc is going over and beyond, giving extra tuition to those who need it. I pay privately for a tutor one hour a week for a subject my DC struggles in. I’d love if the school provided this help instead!

The bright kids are bored 99% of the time in school. I assume you mean the kids of over invested parents. Being ‘bored’ may be good for them, trying new things and all that.

Different for us as ds is 16 and doing Scottish Highers this year, Higher work started for most subjects the last week in May (so 1 week earlier). Most 16 year olds sitting Highers are capable of doing some work independently.

They haven't covered much work, but school has said to both pupils and parents since the beginning the online work should be completed as it wont be covered again when they return to school. They will only be recapping briefly as they normally do after summer, then they will be pressing on with new work and there will be an opportunity to go over what was missed again at the end of the year during revision time.

School say online learning engagement was around 83% (much higher than I expected for our low ranking school) and any pupils who have not engaged have already been contacted and they are working with them to determine their circumstances and what support they need. I would hope those remaining with genuine issues engaging with online learning are supported separately either outside of class or later during revision sessions pre exams next year and the whole class not held back.

Love the idea of those pesky DC who’ve been working for the past few months being bored and disrupting the non workers once school starts again! What a bizarre attitude!

As for “the bright kids” doing the work, again this idea is baffling. DS1 has SEN and really struggles with his work. He attends a special school. His school has been superb during lockdown, but in addition to their daily online lessons and videos and support he has somehow acquired an incredible work ethic (which certainly didn’t exist a few months ago) and has worked every single school day of lockdown. He’s made great progress and we are hugely proud of him.

Betts and Polly, DD1 really values her education, loves school and has worked her socks off during the school closure. She also has severe dyslexia and dyscalculia, and is not likely to ever be in a 'higher band' or top set. Same for a few pupils in my KS2 primary school class who have been returning all their home learning each week while many of my higher attaining pupils have checked out of home learning provided by school altogether.
OP, home learning should have been consolidation of previously taught skills only, so don't worry too much.

The OP seems to think that schools are still operating in the 1950s.

Any teacher worth their salt manages the teaching and learning in their classroom to cater for an ability range that, by the end of Primary, is somewhere around 7 years. September will be no different.

Am also amused at the notion that those with a good work ethic, (or whose parents have been able to support an effective Home School environment) might be disrupting the learning of those who couldn't be arsed (and I am NOT including in that those kids whose parents have been rushed off their feet working full time from home). It would be interesting to see the boot being on the other foot for a change (IF it happened, which I confidently predict it won't).

@Lemons1571

The work set from March onwards should have been consolidation and not new topics, as the curriculum was officially frozen. So none of the kids should have missed anything new?

@Lemons1571 how do you work that out? The government have told us that our paper will take place in 2021 and all content will be tested. Luckily our school do GCSEs over 3 years but imagine if you are a school who does GCSEs over 2 years which is quite conventional, you would not have been able to afford to lose so much teaching time. So a combination of consolidation and teaching but no, I disagree that it “should have been consolidation and not new topics”.

Schools have tried to mitigate the risks and couldn’t take your approach wholly - having examinations next year it is not a wise step to completely, absolutely and 100% freeze new content. Is teachers are trusted (I hope I am) we have delivered what we think is appropriate for our students in our school for their exams next year. Either way it’s a difficult time right now.

My dds school has been amazing and set really high quality, well thought out work. But whilst she initially sat and did it every day, she now completely refuses. She's totally fed up. It's a huge expectation on children and families

@Sittingontheveranda

It’s just not true to say that any pupils have been left with no work

Are you involved with every school?

One of my DC’s teachers has been involved. He put up little videos, and actively taught online.
My other DC’s teacher did nothing bar put up ‘homework’ for the week on Monday. Eg Monday - page 31. Tuesday - page 32. Wednesday - page 33. And look at tv and look at bite size.
I was aware she was a poor teacher before lockdown. Many parents had voiced their concerns about her to no avail. I was not aware at just how poor she was. She did not provide any feedback to the homework. I am cross that she continued to receive full pay while not doing her job. And before anybody starts, she was not in school teaching key worker’s kids, nor was she sick and she does not have children. She is simply a dreadful teacher.

Your other DC has not been left with no work - there is the Oak National Academy which provides work for all.

OP according to DD year 10’s teachers and HOY over 50% of the kids have done nothing or are behind with the work that has been set and apparently this is across all abilities and all sets not just the lower sets!!!

This is a large and supposed decent comp. The kids have had virtually no online classes and have been inundated with emails, powerpoints and work set on many different platforms etc. She also has dyslexia and has had no additional support from school and wont accept any help from us. We have been working from home but are both educated to degree level, interested and able to assist her but she has refused this.

Sadly it seems DD has also fallen into the group that are behind not through no IT facilities or lack of interest on our part. She has dyslexia and she has been inundated with schoolwork (some she has to take photographs of and upload to a very slow school system so she doesn’t always bother) her grandad died during lockdown, next door have had a lot of noisy building work going on. I am hoping she isn’t as far behind as she appears to be on the school classcharts app and I have contacted the school to try and help but I have no access to her school email address so we can’t do any more. We have tried talking with her, reasoning with her but she has become more and more withdrawn. But as she is a very quiet child who likes to keep herself to herself and not draw attention to herself don’t worry she won’t be disrupting the class by misbehaving or asking lots of questions.

If they've had a good work ethic while homeschooling, I would have thought that it would follow that they have a good work ethic when working in school - so while some may be playing catch up because they either couldn't or wouldn't do what had been provided, those students might be being given extension work, and getting on with that?

That's what generally happens in my DDs' school anyway.

Lemmysacecard

I hear you on that. We use Sumdog (I’m a TA at the school my children attend.) For loads of the kids it works well. For DD2, who was about to be assessed for dyscalculia, it doesn’t. She can’t cope with the timer either. But experiment with different games. Not all of them have timers. Try the powerboat game. No timer, you answer five questions and then you get to drive a speedboat and collect gems. Five more questions, more speedboat driving, five more questions, more speedboat driving and then game over.
DD2 got so stressed with the timer that she started pulling her own hair, but once we’d tried different games and found the ones that had no timer she found she enjoys playing it. I’m sure there are one or two others but the powerboat game is the one she loves so I can’t remember what we other games we found.

Betts and Polly, DD1 really values her education, loves school and has worked her socks off during the school closure. She also has severe dyslexia and dyscalculia, and is not likely to ever be in a 'higher band' or top set.

Which is why I corrected Polly's ridiculous statement about 'swots'

My DN isn’t particularly clever and both sil and DB are busy keyworkers. He has been sat down studying with his elder brother who doesn’t want him to start school without knowing how to write or add up. (Apparently as they will be in the same school it would be too embarrassing for him lol). Only DN seems to love being taught by his brother and is now doing his work too - so will arrive to reception doing much more advanced academic work but still not knowing how to pull him his trousers or wipe his bum without wasting half the loo roll!!

To be honest it won’t be that different from a normal September for me. I teach in an inner London primary with really high mobility. All through the year we get new pupils from other schools and countries at varying levels. Even if they come from other UK schools they will not have had the curriculum in the same order. A sizeable number have little or no English.

We will do what we always do, which is assess, find the gaps and teach accordingly.

Your other DC has not been left with no work - there is the Oak National Academy which provides work for all

Personally I have not found Oak Academy great for younger children. I have spent many hours every weekend researching and organising his schoolwork for the week ahead myself. There are other great resources - Bitesize, Reading Eggs, maths apps, online tuition and absolutely loads on YouTube, which together with a home tutor for one subject, and work from another school means DC should be okay. Unfortunately I wasn’t aware of all of them from the beginning and DC will have lost time due to me not being prepared better earlier. I will continue to do some work during the school holidays and hopefully DC will be in a good place returning to school. I haven’t always done the best I could do but overall I hope I have done enough.

Reading eggs has been brilliant for DD2.
The other subscription website we use is busythings. Huge range of activities. DD2 enjoys playing it.

‘I don’t like the provision’ isn’t the same as ‘There hasn’t been any provision’.

There hasn’t been any provision’.

I only found out about it on MN. It was never even mentioned by the school.

Is the term swot still thrown around in schools? How pathetic.

My dd is in reception, throughout the year her and one other child were given extra english and maths work during school and during lockdown. I'm assuming the school will continue to give further teaching to those that need it whether they are ahead or behind. For schools that dont have different bands maybe they will need to look at implementing them

I think it's a very fair question and interested in how school will approach. Our school is so far following a moral imperative to prioritise the needs of dc who have not engaged with home learning. However I think the race will be on for everyone who hopes to aim for their best and they all deserve the best help. Dd2 year 10 has worked hard, but she is well aware that she's 'done it' but not necessarily 'learnt it' due to not having the teacher's expertise and varied learning and assessment methods. So time will tell.