In September will the kids who have done homelearning have to sit bored at school while works repeated for the ones that haven't. Or will they start there new' year ' work as normal. Either way it's

[947EliseChalotte]

It's not fair either way. The bright kids who have done their homelearning will be held back while it's repeated for the ones which were unable too .....or if it's a new year start with work as normal the ones who didn't do homelearning will have missed work and won't understand. So either is unfair to either groups. So what are the plans for education for September? Repeating work missed from march or new work from sept? Which group will be disavantsged the ones who have done work or haven't ?

@Ohsuchaperfectday

Loving the assumption that most dc were given any home learning at all! Only in the last 2 weeks has one dc been given anything at all.

The other has been left to coast with power points.

This is a confusing post. Are you defining home learning as not including the powerpoints sent by the teachers? What do you imagine they do when in school, the minute a powerpoint goes up does your child put their feed up and nap as "learning" has stopped?

How do you actually know that?

They do not work in groups. The teacher stands at the top of the room and gives the same info to the whole class. On the rare occasions they are split into groups eg if they are doing a presentation, they mix the more capable ones with the ones who need help. They absolutely do not divide the children into high and lower ability groups.
And yes I know this for a fact as I have worked in the school.

I can’t wait for all the posts on here in September with people whining their kids are behind when they haven’t been arsed to do a single piece of home learning for months!

Yep, the kids who have a good work ethic will be ahead. And that’s the way life should be 👍🏼

Schools have already started commenting that even those who have completed all the work are behind because parents work through the tasks with their kids or kids do it themselves and then they move on to the next piece of work and rarely do they revisit that topic so aren't reiterating the learning. Therefore alot of the knowledge is lost as only done once.

You’re worried that the bright kids who have done homeschooling will now disrupt your kids who haven’t bothered to do any work? Hilarious. Pull the other one.

Tif a lot of the kids who have done minimal is key worker children. I have worked throughout this and our school has ran as a childcare provision only, minimal learning was taking place.

So that's the true mark of unfairness, the children of those parents on the front line are now behind because they had no other option

I'll be pressing on with the curriculum and those who haven't done the work will be in after school intervention with me, I've already emailed their parents. I'm not holding back those who have been working hard.

With my year 12s going into year 13 we have built revision into our learning. With regards to for example year 8 it's not the end of the world if they didn't finish reading the novel.

I don't think it's the 'bright kids' who have done their home learning. It will be the ones who haven't had their parent(s) working themselves to death trying to keep their jobs who have done home learning. I have friends who are doing all sorts of amazing things with their dc. Mine watches Netflix about 6 hours a day because I need to keep her quiet while I have meetings. But I really can't see how anyone could be bored going back to school - even if the work is easy, there is always more to learn, a new environment (mine are sick to death of being at home), friends, meals to share with different people, somewhere different to run around outside. Mine is pretty much keeping up with the basics, despite all the tv time, but actual real teachers will do such a vastly better job than I'm doing, that even if she has to learn fractions again, I'm pretty sure she'll be happier than being stuck at home.

The swots are usually in the higher band classes.

and this is why we have such a problem in this country, and why so many kids get bullied by the idiots who consider learning and education to be 'swotty' and undesirable

To insult kids for actually wanting to learn, and for doing whats asked of them re homework/homelearning

Thats disgusting and Im glad I pulled my kid out of state secondary, because attitudes like this made his life an absolute nightmare, where it was more important for kids to disrupt the class with smartarsery than to actually do what they are there for

You’re worried that the bright kids who have done homeschooling will now disrupt your kids who haven’t bothered to do any work?

Sadly the kids who have put in the work are more likely to be the kids who are the least disruptive generally, and they will be the same ones left sitting bored in the classroom.

I know one very vocal woman who is already making noise that due to working, she could not do any homeschool and she is adamant her children will not be discriminated against and will have to pick up from where they left off. Presumably this woman never has time to do homework either??? Her children have spent lockdown playing tennis while she determinedly says she is too busy to do anything. She is very lazy and quick to point the finger in general.

@choc71 - sounds very unfair. I hope you change your attitude. Children whose parents have been working full time from home have been penalised enough. It’s not that the parents or children couldn’t be bothered to do the work (if any was provided) but it’s difficult to get young children to complete any work without any teaching or supervision.

@Sittingontheveranda

Being taught in the same class at primary doesn't mean they are doing the same work, I've worked in primary schools with 6 different ability levels and so 6 differentiated tasks.

And again this simply isn’t true for all schools. My DC’s school does NOT do this.

I didn't say it was true for all schools - we know it isn't. I said it's like it in some schools.

I am concerned with this. My DD is 7 and struggles with maths, I mean really struggles. She has extra teaching at school as she really struggles, it does not come naturally to her.

All the maths is done online now via an app called Sumdog, the problem is that it gives you sums to solve but they are all on a timer. So in 3 minutes DD is only completing 2 or 3 sums before the time runs out. And because the time is running out she gets stressed and upset.

Now it’s a struggle to get her to do the maths on line as she can’t do it and gets very low scores.

I have gone back to writing sums on paper for her so she can take her time and I can help explain how she gets to the answer. So it looks like she has done hardly any maths homework and is going to be further behind.

"Yep, the kids who have a good work ethic will be ahead"

It's a bit more complicated.
Our 2 primary school aged children have done very little home learning because: we both work FT and are extremely busy and we have a disruptive 3yrs old to handle as well.
They could have gone to school (DH is a keyworker) but it wouldn't have changed anything as school for keyworker's was childcare not learning.
I'm sure the schools will figure it out and my kids will catch up.

@mindutopia

I don't think it's the 'bright kids' who have done their home learning. It will be the ones who haven't had their parent(s) working themselves to death trying to keep their jobs who have done home learning. I have friends who are doing all sorts of amazing things with their dc. Mine watches Netflix about 6 hours a day because I need to keep her quiet while I have meetings. But I really can't see how anyone could be bored going back to school - even if the work is easy, there is always more to learn, a new environment (mine are sick to death of being at home), friends, meals to share with different people, somewhere different to run around outside. Mine is pretty much keeping up with the basics, despite all the tv time, but actual real teachers will do such a vastly better job than I'm doing, that even if she has to learn fractions again, I'm pretty sure she'll be happier than being stuck at home.

How old is your child? Presumably she is of an age where she can't do any work independently? I've been out at work throughout lockdown and my children have had to work independently.

I agree with differentiated work within the same classroom. Many people will be saying here that doesn't happen at our school when indeed it does. They may not tell you it is but there is always generally some form of extension exercises on the same topics for the brighter kids who whizz through the basics and easier access exercises for the less able. Just because they don't advertise the fact does not mean it is not happening.

choc71 - you are lovely!! Maybe I should have asked my husband to stop his work and home school our kids... he works at pretty high level in vaccines and his company is both contributing to finding a vaccine for this and working hard to avoid a flu pandemic. But that's probably not important to you...

Its not just not doing homelearning and doing homelearning.

DS (8) has been doing it, but he is hampered by me. I have severe mental health problems and at times have really struggled, I also don't understand how math is being taught and I have been reluctant to teach him another way, because I sense it leads on to another thing (I have been proved right in this over the weeks) so we have struggled with the fact DS has a shit homeschooling teacher

I have gone back to writing sums on paper for her

Daily online maths lessons classroom.thenational.academy/year-groups

My class has children who have a cognitive age of 2, a cognitive age of a high ability 6 year old and everything in between. I will continue to meet their needs like I always do. I’ve never worked in a school where all the children have the same needs.

I have gone back to writing sums on paper for her so she can take her time and I can help explain how she gets to the answer. So it looks like she has done hardly any maths homework and is going to be further behind.

I wouldn’t worry about what you have submitted online as long as she understands the concepts. I have used Twinkl for worksheets and it is a brilliant resource. You can choose the topics she finds more difficult. Personally I find completing online isn’t great for younger children. A pencil and paper is much better. My DC is quick to pick up concepts but there are some that take a lot longer eg telling the time drove me to despair! Online apps are useful for recap learning such as tables and spellings.

@noblegiraffe, thank you I will give that a go with her.

Karma - how is your school funding this extra lesson each day?

All state school pupils have been provided with a minimum in the form of Oak National Academy and Bitesize. The vast majority of schools have gone beyond this though and provided lots more stuff to supplement or replace these resources. It’s just not true to say that any pupils have been left with no work. They might not have had any one to help them access it but it has been provided.

I have a feeling they're not repeating the work from lockdown. A lot of it seems to be revision of what they have already learned anyway. My children are in secondary school though. Maths has moved on to a different topic but I'm not sure if it's a totally new area or revision. Everything else is definitely just a,recap.
Surely it'll be the same in primary school?