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Anditsgin111 · 2020-06-26T23:19:11+00:00

Just wondering how many people believe in the government after failure after failure? What an absolute shambles!! I genuinely had my heart set on doing the right thing!! I feel so let down by people and politics 😔

heyheyho · 27/06/2020 09:27

Yet another Tory bashing thread. Yawn!

ChangeThePassword · 27/06/2020 09:29

Did you vote Tory, op?

ChangeThePassword · 27/06/2020 09:33

I realise that might sound as if I'm trying to be inflammatory. I'm not. I just wonder if that's what you meant by 'I had my heart set on doing the right thing'.

Imo, there's no one right thing in politics. It's about going for what you think is the best option available. If you voted with the right motives, you did nothing wrong. And I say that as someone that would never vote Tory. Nobody could have predicted how this would go.

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 27/06/2020 09:34

I don't believe his Govt has had failure after failure.

"I genuinely had my heart set on doing the right thing!!"
Not sure what you are saying here. Are you saying you haven't done the right thing about something?

"I feel so let down by people and politics."
????? Do you want to say more?

ChangeThePassword · 27/06/2020 09:49

I don't believe his Govt has had failure after failure

Off the top of my head in the last few months

The herd immunity idea that he has to back down on
The disastrous track and trace app that cost millions
The PPE issues (lying about the order from Turkey, then when it arrived it didn't meet the standards required)
The antibody test issues (ordered from China but they didn't work)
The failure to deal appropriately with Dominic Cummings
And today I heard about an investment in satellites which are not the right kind

I'm sure there are more I've forgotten.

Drivingdownthe101 · 27/06/2020 09:51

I knew this government were a shit show, that’s why I didn’t vote for them. So no, I don’t feel ‘let down’, it’s only what I expected.

StrawberrySquash · 27/06/2020 09:53

I didn't vote for them, but I still feel let down. In issue after issue they still manage to disappoint me. Each time I think I have no faith left, they chip away at a little more thar was clearly there.

Livelovebehappy · 27/06/2020 09:56

The government have done great things such as the self employment grant, bounce back loans for businesses, furlough process. But they have failed in other areas such as Pope and track and trace. But seriously, we as a country have never been faced with something like this, and it’s a case of learning as we go. It’s been a huge learning curve, and I can’t believe that people really thought everything was going to be perfectly handled from the time the virus hit. Next time, and there will be a next time, the learnings from this will be used to create a better and quicker way of dealing with things. I really don’t think any other party would have done any better. And if you’re not a Tory supporter, of course you’re not going to be satisfied with what the government has done. Ever.

Ponoka7 · 27/06/2020 09:57

@heyheyho, no it isn't just 'Tory bashing', these people have our health and life in their hands and should be held accountable.

God knows what life is going to be like for whole sections of society during the recession to come, when we have a government that fails to act and denys and problems, like child poverty.

slipperywhensparticus · 27/06/2020 09:58

I thought you were talking about the stomach symptoms now associated with coronovirus......

sashagabadon · 27/06/2020 09:59

@Livelovebehappy

The government have done great things such as the self employment grant, bounce back loans for businesses, furlough process. But they have failed in other areas such as Pope and track and trace. But seriously, we as a country have never been faced with something like this, and it’s a case of learning as we go. It’s been a huge learning curve, and I can’t believe that people really thought everything was going to be perfectly handled from the time the virus hit. Next time, and there will be a next time, the learnings from this will be used to create a better and quicker way of dealing with things. I really don’t think any other party would have done any better. And if you’re not a Tory supporter, of course you’re not going to be satisfied with what the government has done. Ever.

This

Ponoka7 · 27/06/2020 10:01

@Livelovebehappy, I don't think that it's just about this. This has shown that we need money circulating in our society and being spent on services. Part of our final death rate will be because of the harsh Austerity that we've been living under. The housing policies don't work.

We had a new deadly virus that was transmitted by just breathing around each other. Thousands had died in Europe and Boris was telling us to wash our hands. But he was worried about it enough to change the criteria for hospital admissions.

FizzFan · 27/06/2020 10:02

I knew this government were a shit show, that’s why I didn’t vote for them. So no, I don’t feel ‘let down’, it’s only what I expected.

This.

The “we knew what we were voting for” Brexiteer brigade have gone very quiet. Or did that only apply to Brexit? Whereas I’d say the impact of electing populist moronic leaders is really coming home to roost. Sounds harsh but anyone who voted for this lot and has been impacted badly by CV got exactly “what they voted for”. Sadly a lot of people who didn’t vote for this shower of shit have suffered too.

Dogsaresomucheasier · 27/06/2020 10:04

Actually, I feel let down by the people who voted for them, (and Brexit,) because I didn’t. The country has what it deserves.

CathyorClaire · 27/06/2020 10:04

@slipperywhensparticus

I thought you were talking about the stomach symptoms now associated with coronovirus......

I thought it was going to be about shitting on beaches...

ChangeThePassword · 27/06/2020 10:05

And if you’re not a Tory supporter, of course you’re not going to be satisfied with what the government has done. Ever

I'm not a Tory supporter. I won't ever be a Tory supporter. There are things they have done that I am very grateful for. It is entirely possible to see both the good and the bad in a political party.

FizzFan · 27/06/2020 10:06

I can’t believe that people really thought everything was going to be perfectly handled from the time the virus hit

No one expects that but not taking it seriously when Italy was being decimated whilst allowing our citizens to bring it back in and spread it from there freely over 1000 times with no quarantine measures , allowing mass gatherings to go ahead, whilst telling people to wash their hands, the fuck up in care homes, and the dithering over lockdown are more than mistakes, it was gross negligence.

Livelovebehappy · 27/06/2020 10:08

ponoka7 but tbh the government didn’t know what they were fighting initially. Nothing was known about the virus because China tried to cover up the situation and then drip fed information out. How can you advise people on something you know nothing about? It’s only recently that scientists are releasing more details about the best way to fight and protect ourselves against the virus. I guess washing your hands and avoiding contact would be the obvious advice initially, but other than that, until the government received more information, there was little they could do.

tiredanddangerous · 27/06/2020 10:08

I’d say the government have been exactly as I expected them to be, so no I don’t feel let down. I feel bloody angry that they just seem to be able to get away with it.

Shitfuckoh · 27/06/2020 10:09

@CathyorClaire That's what OP meant about having her heart set on doing the right thing... She didn't do the right thing when she went to the beach I think! [shock}

Davincitoad · 27/06/2020 10:10

I don’t understand what your point is???

Original poster

Anditsgin111 · 27/06/2020 10:15

@ChangeThePassword
Yes exactly all this.
I can't believe the amount of nonsense that's come out of Downing St these last few months. I can't even watch the daily briefing anymore, nobody seems to know what they are talking about. After Bournemouth beach and the protesting, which is a massive slap in the face to the NHS, I'm speechless!
Now I'm just waiting on the banks to set interest rates and massively screw everyone who's gone into their overdrafs, and the flood of people who will probably be evicted from their homes soon. Not to mention a disabled man who starved to death because he had no access to food and was shielding!
It's only going to get worse!!

OP posts:

sashagabadon · 27/06/2020 10:15

There has been loads of good stuff ( and bad of course). Mumsnet just don't want to hear it people in real life take a more pragmatic view i think.

I was hearing yesterday about a rough sleeper initiative to rehouse as many of the homeless cuurently in hotels in england. The woman in charge ( can't remember name) has got millions to try and make sure as few as poss do not return to the streets. She sounded brilliant and had really got a handle on the issue. She wasb't a politician. Hopefully ending street homelessness. That would be amazing and the government should be applauded for trying this.
But of course crickets from the leftwing press and activists but you would think this is just the sort of thing they eould be behind but it does not suit their tories are evil agenda.

This is what annoys me. Criticise the bad but do recognise the good too.

Livelovebehappy · 27/06/2020 10:15

And to blame Brexit and Tory supporters is ridiculous. Lay the blame where it belongs, at the door of an opposition party who failed its supporters by not fighting an election with decent policy proposals and chaotic manifesto. The government were on the ropes at that time and any decent opposition could have thrown them to the kerb. The electorate had very little choice, it was either Corbyn or Johnson. A no brainer really.

sashagabadon · 27/06/2020 10:19

@Livelovebehappy

ponoka7 but tbh the government didn’t know what they were fighting initially. Nothing was known about the virus because China tried to cover up the situation and then drip fed information out. How can you advise people on something you know nothing about? It’s only recently that scientists are releasing more details about the best way to fight and protect ourselves against the virus. I guess washing your hands and avoiding contact would be the obvious advice initially, but other than that, until the government received more information, there was little they could do.

Exactly. Everyone i speak to understands this. Most people recognise the difficulties any gov would have faced. And they did follow the science , what was available at the time considering it was a novel virus that did not exist a few months previously