The beach down south/bbc news tonight

[Milssofadoesntreallyfit]

I'm mean, yes I want things back to normal BUT I am still concerned in case we get a spike again. I agree we all need to be careful BUT clearly all these people just thought F* it.
All we've put up with so far with lock down and it seems every one on the beach in question decided to piss it into the wind.

If I were the government I would think I couldn't trust people to use sense at all and put lockdown back in place until either a vaccination or until people realised that if they want lockdown relaxed then they need to prove they can be trusted to show a bit of caution.

Rant over.

Flyingunicornsmyass

I'm annoyed at seeing the news, it must be really frustrating living there. I feel for you having to actually having to try and tolerate it.

@Milssofadoesntreallyfit

Husband has just wondered about what folk will be like when pubs open....... Imagine the it being booze fueled!!!!

I think I might hibernate until everyone gets it out of their system!!!!

I am actually dreading 4th July and pubs opening for this reason... 😱

At the moment it feels like every week people are predicting the second spike.
VE day street parties- there will be another spike in 2 weeks
People went to the beach on 20th May - there will be another spike in 2 weeks.
People went to a protest on 28th May - there will be another spike in 2 weeks
Schools returned on 1st June - there will be another spike in 2 weeks.....

Well guess what? Less and less people are being tested positive each day, cases are dropping. Stop scaring everyone with threatening another spike in 2 weeks. It isn't happening yet.

LockdownHairdo

I agree, you can't just let herd immunity happen it just wouldn't work.

If it were as simple as some suggested, I doubt lockdown would have happened anywhere.

It’s actually really horrible everywhere at the moment. People are not at work, not at school, the sun is out - every park, street, and beach seems to be full of people drinking, playing loud music, shouting, etc.

Sorry - I am not anti people having fun, but all this anti social behaviour is just not on.

@Ohffs66

Hundreds of people and a mass brawl going on on a beach in South Wales tonight, the pictures and videos I've seen shared are horrifying. Locals can't get out of their streets for all the traffic, people driving drunk, just not enough police to control it. Absolute carnage.

Are they not locals? I thought there was a 5 mile rule?

you can get Covid-19 more than once.

That's not known and unlikely to be true, for at least a few months.

😲😲😲 Where is that Ohffs66 ?

They didn't piss into the wind
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@LockdownHairdo (loving your username btw)
Herd immunity is not a solution on its own, only part of it. We would need reliable testing, track & trace and treatment as well

Vaccine? Hmmm... I don’t think that is a solution. It might put the shielding people’s mind at ease though

Well, I hope higher vitamin D levels really does make it less likely that exposure leads to severe symptoms, eh?

If we're going to have a second wave (and we probably are- it's too widespread to be able to contain and eliminate it through tracking and isolating the infected), maybe summer is a good time. Before the flu season kicks off, and while there is adequate sunlight for any of us to have healthy vitamin D levels without supplementation.

What's the latest word on what percentage of the population need to acquire immunity to this in order to suppress further spread?

@SirVixofVixHall Ogmore by Sea. It's all over local FB groups. @user69 yes we are still supposed to stay within 5 miles at the minute, rules are clearly being totally disregarded. Apparently it was organised on Facebook

Ohffs66 you must be local to me I think.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-ogmore-kids-fighting-lockdown-18490567.amp

I agree with AHippoNamedBooBooButt essentially people have been predicting a large spike after events but that doesn’t seem to have happened. Bournemouth beach gets horribly rammed at the best of times. I have family in Dorset and they would never go there in the summer as it is always rammed. In the scheme of things, most people were probably young and low risk, they were outside in the sun so the risks are potentially not that great. I wouldn’t have wanted to stay if it was that busy but people obviously did. I think a bigger concern was how rammed the trains were, the rubbish, dangerous parking and gridlocked roads.

People seem to know only two extremes. Only a few weeks back you would get judged for going to the shops and run in the park on the same day and now this. Ridiculous.

There’s no point blaming individuals. I doubt anyone set out for a day at Bournemouth imagining it would be like that. It’s a kind of middle class idea that we seek out remote spots that no one else knows about. Working class people have a long history of holidaying in popular resorts like Bournemouth. Many of these resorts developed specifically to cater for the new working class leisure time that emerged when factories moved to 6 or 5 day working and holiday weeks in the summer. These are now exactly the people that are most likely to be furloughed and unable to work from home or to have lost their jobs.

Although I drove past a big traffic queue earlier, backed up like I've never seen it. Assumed there had been an accident but it was mentioned on our local news later on that it was the queue for the beach - which is 21miles away!!! I cannot imagine what is so wonderful about lying on sand, in the baking heat that people would queue for 21miles to go to.

My only friend in the whole wide world is a hippo named boo boo butt!

I've been shielding since the middle of march, not even been past my front door, not seen my family or friends, I was starting to think there might be a light at the end of the tunnel but now I'm worried that I'm going to be left isolated for even longer thanks to the selfish morons that think it's all over and life can carry on as before.

Businesses have been busy putting in measures to protect the public so they can re-open and get their trade back and it just feels like its all been for nothing.

I doubt anyone set out for a day at Bournemouth imagining it would be like that.

Really? After there had been overcrowding etc on previous warm days when the lockdown was tighter? Anyone who'd thought about it for a nanosecond would have realised it would be rammed.

I live near Bournemouth (in Mudeford right by the beach) and it's awful.
I had a hospital appointment this morning at 9am and the traffic down the A338 was so awful even that early that I was really late.

One of the worst parts is the rubbish, over 40 tonnes of it from Wednesday alone.

But there's a whole other thread running on here tonight with people defending these poor people who live hundreds of miles away who have been locked up for months and deserve a day at the beach and them shitting in people's gardens is "not ideal" but hey ho..

@Janaih

This much promised second wave has been coming for weeks, if not months now...

Agree the scenes are not pretty, but what did they expect on the hottest day of the year with nothing else open?

How can a second wave have been coming for weeks/months when we’ve literally only just got through the first 🙄

It was a pretty ugly scene but AHippoNamedBooBooButt is right; we haven't had a single hot weekend or national holiday in the past 12 weeks without people confidently predicting a second spike which has yet to materialise.

I just don't think its as simple as that. I don't think we're going back to mid March.

I think its much more likely that scenarios will play out like the one in Germany, where there will be localised outbreaks which will be identified more quickly and potentially local lockdowns and quarantines. The government's handling of this situation has largely been a disaster but they are beginning to get a handle on it now and a lot has been learned about the disease.

@PotholeParadise

Well, I hope higher vitamin D levels really does make it less likely that exposure leads to severe symptoms, eh?

If we're going to have a second wave (and we probably are- it's too widespread to be able to contain and eliminate it through tracking and isolating the infected), maybe summer is a good time. Before the flu season kicks off, and while there is adequate sunlight for any of us to have healthy vitamin D levels without supplementation.

What's the latest word on what percentage of the population need to acquire immunity to this in order to suppress further spread?

Right at the beginning Sir Patrick Vallance said 80%