RFU reviewing use of slave song Swing Low, Sweet Chariot

[GimmeAy]

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53096584

Anyone recall this lively but good-natured discussion from earlier in the year? www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3817800-Is-the-chosen-English-rugby-anthem-appropriate-do-you-think?pg=1

What do we all think now given the shift in attitudes to slavery and things associated with slavery? I think the attitude back in February was that it was ok, because it was initially sung in the context of rugby by a black player. BBC reporting that that player's nickname was Chariot which is why he sang it.

AIBU to be interested in whether our views have changed at all?

You're having a 'view' because you get to join in with the girls. I've noticed you a lot over time Simon - always trying to join in with the majority. Never having an opinion of your own.

What is your opinion Simon? So far, all you've added to the discussion is that you have brown skin. We already know you're male.

Nasturtiums? Comes from Latin doesn't it?

Oops! That could very easily out me in real life... [waves to all who recognise her]

Simon has finally got the womenfolk falling at his feet in awe. All hail the male poster (inclusion and all that).

Yes, twists your nose, doesn't it?

@GimmeAy

Simon has finally got the womenfolk falling at his feet in awe. All hail the male poster (inclusion and all that).

You have a rather active imagination

Are you trying REALLY HARD to be so obnoxious MNHQ delete you and all your shiny silliness?

Might work... you could get lucky!!!

Thought you'd use something from the British Empire rather than stealing something from the Roman Empire? Tut tut.

You have a rather active imagination

Why thank you Simon.

Well... as the word itself is Old English, coined after those naughty Romans colonised the world.

English, sorry Brits, have long been inclusive, or rapacious, depending on your perspective, how far back you want to go!!

@CuriousaboutSamphire

Are you trying REALLY HARD to be so obnoxious MNHQ delete you and all your shiny silliness?

Might work... you could get lucky!!!

Any moment now.

Luckily this will erase the embarrassing swooning over Simon we are all doing. I just can't help myself.

Brits sing Swing Low Sweet Chariot

I find the use of 'Brits' offensive, I'm a Broton, to whoM do I complain or as I am 'white' maybe I'm not allowed to be offended!

Bugger! I misread the room on that one.

So far I've inferred he is Satan, Monty Python or just a very silly boy!

We are ALL INDIVIDUALS.

Between that, John Cleese "I want to be a woman" and the song Get Back, for the "get back Loretta" lyric, I've had a hard time not posting the whole of YouTube this morning!

Hello. I think you've been expecting us to drop in with a reminder of our Talk Guidelines...which, among other things, call for civil discussion even if you strongly disagree and don't allow for personal attacks or deliberately inflammatory posts.

Thanks!

Martin ofiah doesnt think it should be banned , have the actual black players decided it should be banned or been consulted ?
How would they stop 40000 people singing it which banning would encourage , rather than encouraging it to be be replaced
There are black players in rugby but rugby is still very much full of private school children only a few make it that haven't has a private education in england regardless

Thank you Becky. We consider ourselves fully admonished

Private education for rugby?

Maybe in some areas but, again at the chance of outing myself, I have taught lots of the women's team and not a few of the mens team and lots of club players, male and female too. And have never set foot in a public school!

@Gimmeay the english are too thick you have put
I find that offensive , how is it ok for you to say that ??

It isn't but, hopefully, the MNHQ message will be the end of it. And OPs own nasty words will stand.

Cheers Becky!

@curious majority of england tea went to private school
Im nit talking about playing rugby my dc play rugby but getting into academies is easier if at private school than a state
State school rugby is generally poor

@Gimmeay you asked for them to review attacks on you what about your attacks in the english or is that ok ?? Sorry but i call that double standards

I am trying to think of the teens I taught, in a specialist FE college, state not private. You could be right for many, though quite a few were from big standard comprehensives with good links to Grass Roots academies.

The RFU has been working on that for decades.