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MIL ignores my instructions... again

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84teacher · 17/06/2020 21:52

My daughter is 17 months old and ever since she was born there has been friction between my boyfriend's mother and I; its as if she has no regard for any routines or instructions I give, and does as she pleases. I could handle this if my boyfriend backed me up but he never does, he thinks I am unreasonable... am I?

Many things have happened and each time I have raised the issue with my boyfriend, but it develops into an argument as he sees it all as harsh criticism of his mother, but I will summarise a few:

MIL turned up at our house with her daughter, son-in-law and elderly neighbour within an hour of us getting home from the hospital. I had been discharged 20 hours after giving birth. My boyfriend had decided that no family were allowed to visit for the first few days - I think he actually meant just MY family. I was not told they were coming, but my boyfriend had been on the phone to them while I was having a nap on the sofa and told them they could visit. I held my baby close and refused to let MIL hold her when she asked; I told her that I needed time to bond with my baby and wouldn't be letting anybody but her father hold her for the first week or so.

For the first month of our baby's life MIL kept visiting unannounced; she had been given a key for our apartment 2 weeks before I went into labour so that she could come and feed our Cats if needed. MIL refused to give the key up until I physically took it from her on the final unannounced visit. During her visits MIL would try and take baby from my breast as she was feeding, she also snook in to the bedroom while I was asleep and took baby from the bassinet to have a cuddle in the living room.

Biggie!!! When baby was 4 months old MIL and SIL came to visit when I had taken her out for a walk; when I returned MIL had come out of the apartment, down 5 flights of stairs and was running towards me screeching and waving her arms. She asked if she could take baby for a walk in the pram on her own. I obliged but informed her that baby would be due a feed soon, so she must be back in 30 minutes. When MIL wasn't back in time I tried to call her phone but it was switched off. SIL and BF were telling me not to panic, and give her more time. After an hour I got my trainers on and sprinted (very difficult with full breasts) around the block to try and find her, she was nowhere to be seen. I returned and sent BF and SIL out in their cars to find her. BF returned with her 4 HOURS AFTER SHE HAD LEFT; it turned out she had been to meet "friends" (my boyfriend's ex-gf and her sister) for coffee in the local park; MIL had also given baby a yoghurt (not even a baby yoghurt, she was solely breastfed and I hadn't started weaning her at that point).

After the incident above I refused to let MIL have any alone time with baby at all until she was 11 months old. MIL had offered to look after her when I returned to work full-time and BF was refusing to use any paid childcare. I let her look after baby for a few hours each afternoon while I caught up with housework. I knew she was struggling, she has no empathy and no patience with children. A few weeks before I was due back at work she turned on the water-works and told BF that she couldn't cope with looking after baby, but then blamed it on me - she said that I had denied her the chance to bond and get to know her granddaughter.

The covid-19 lockdown... MIL turns up unannounced a few times each week and expects to come into the house to see baby; I put my foot down straight away and agree to letting her see her in the garden (even though this is still technically against the law in the UK at that point). She cannot even remember to keep her distance and has to be told numerous times to back off; so I had to be the bad-guy again and insist that she only sees her through the window. We get the water-works again, BF and I don't speak for days because of the argument we had.

The latest... I am falling behind on work at home and we can now form bubbles in the UK, so we agreed that MIL can look after our daughter 2 afternoons each week. As my daughter is now 17 months old she is much more independent, and is able to tell you what she wants (and does not want). This afternoon I dropped her off with a bag of toys, a healthy snack, water cup etc. I gave MIL instructions that she should have her snack at around 3pm, to keep offering her water throughout the afternoon, ensure she is not in the sun for too long - all common-sense stuff really. More background: SIL is VERY obese (has diabetes and asthma because of her weight), MIL is a feeder; for the duration of our relationship I have been amazed at how my MIL instantly offers my BF (38 yo) biscuits, sweets and chocolates as soon as she sees him, and like a little child he never says no and doesn't actually know when to stop eating them. So... I also very clearly told her: NO CHOCOLATE OR BISCUITS! Baby has snacks in the bag, please only offer her them. BF collects baby on his way home from work and returns an hour later than usual; another really annoying trait MIL has is fault-picking, first it was the dreaded wind, then she thought baby had ADHD (I'm a teacher... don't even try this one on me when you have no educational experience Carol!), she is the sort of person who has to play doctor and find something wrong with baby - and it usually stems from something she thinks I am doing wrong. So when BF returns baby is overtired and hungry... - of course she is! If you had come straight home she could've had the dinner that has been ready for over 30 minutes!!! Baby's bib and T-Shirt are covered in CHOCOLATE, her snacks are still in the bag untouched and her sippy-cup smells of cordial. I try to be calm and tell BF that I left his mother with instructions and repeat them to him. He just walks away, mutters something under his breath and then ignores me until baby has gone to bed.

We just had yet another argument. Yes, I understand that a little chocolate once in a while, and a little cordial is probably harmless; but my point is that once again, she has completely disregarded my instructions and done her own thing. I raised the issue of his sister, and the fact that when living with his mother he too was obese. This didn't go down very well but I had to bring it up in my defence. I do not want my child growing up addicted to cake, biscuits and chocolate in the very unhealthy way that her aunty is, and her father was... all because MIL cannot follow simple instructions.

I just feel like I cannot trust this woman at all, and am so angry with my BF that I feel like leaving him. There are other mummy's-boy issues underpinning this that have affected our relationship.

So... thank you for reading. Am I being unreasonable here?

OP posts:
GabriellaMontez · 17/06/2020 22:54

Your partner and MIL MIL sound awful.

I cant
believe you let her take your dd again after the 4 hours incident.

rottiemum88 · 17/06/2020 22:55

Worth bearing in mind OP that if you decide to split with your BF your MIL is likely to have far more uncontrolled access to your DD during his time with her, so this isn't ever likely to be something you can fully control 🤷🏼‍♀️

Ultimately she sounds a bit like hard work, but then so do you. Some of your reactions are very OTT. The juice and chocolate as a one off isn't going to cause your child any harm at all; grandparents enjoy spoiling their grandchildren and it seems pretty harmless as an occasional treat. That said, taking the baby off in the pram for hours on end when she knew she needed a feed soon was not ok.

gutentag1 · 17/06/2020 22:56

They both sound awful. You are the only person in this situation who is prioritising your child, and it sounds like you are doing really well but it must be exhausting to constantly be fighting these battles and being gaslighted.

Your MIL cannot be trusted, so should not be allowed to have your DD unsupervised. The four hour park trip would have done it for me, that's absolutely unforgivable.

And as for your DP, he needs to support you or pack his bags. He seriously sounds useless, no offence.

Euclid · 17/06/2020 22:56

Your boyfriend has no respect for you. You should leave him. Don't let his mother have your baby any more. By the way she is not your MIL if you are not married to her son.

billy1966 · 17/06/2020 22:56

Op,
You boyfriend's mother sounds awful and has clearly shown you who she is.

Your boyfriend sounds like a weak twat and will never amount to much.

You know this.

Protect your child.

Flowers
IndigoApple · 17/06/2020 22:57

You have my sympathy, your MIL sounds like mine!

When I went back to work 4 days a week MIL offered look after DD and like you my DH didn't want to pay for childcare if we didn't need to. I agreed as we were poor after my maternity leave but it was a disaster. MIL was unreliable, left DD to sleep all day in the pram in the garden, fed DD all sorts of rubbish and paid no attention to my instructions (current guidance on weaning etc which was different from when her children were babies) . Then after all that demanded we pay her! Fell out with DH over it but we moved DD to nursery after 6 months, was worth every penny.

I wish someone had warned me against using family as free childcare.

DD is older now. MIL not changed, knows best about everything and thinks social distancing doesn't apply to her!

BashStreetKid · 17/06/2020 23:02

Bit torn here, to be honest. Yes, I can see that a lot of your MiL's behaviour is dreadful. But really - allowing your baby's grandmother to hold her for a few minutes is going to prevent you bonding? Do you have any concept of how precious and ridiculous that is? She didn't screech as you claim, did she? You "let" her look after the baby when it helped you out, but that is somehow some sort of concession?

I suspect that if you had taken a more sensible approach from the outset you would have been able to communicate on a more constructive level with your MiL which would, at the very least, reduce the problems. But I fear it is now too late to remedy it.

gingerbiscuits · 17/06/2020 23:03

She sounds horrendous BUT if you know all this, why do you repeatedly allow her to look after your child?? You can't have it both ways!!

mrsBtheparker · 17/06/2020 23:04

She sounds awful and so does your partner

Is he not allowed an opinion, even one that might contradict yours? The way on which many women treat the father of their child as having no say, I'm not surprised so many play computer games!!

TheEmpressMatilda · 17/06/2020 23:04

I’m really surprised at all the comments slagging off the OP. This woman kidnapped a baby for four hours! I’d have phoned the police.

But this is MN, where MILs can do no wrong, and where any woman who complains about her MIL gets called controlling and hard work.

understandmenow · 17/06/2020 23:04

Totally wrong, but it's your DH that's the biggest problem. IMO

Beautiful3 · 17/06/2020 23:07

Pay for childcare to resolve the issue.

MrsP2015 · 17/06/2020 23:08

Gosh you poor thing.

I'm guessing for your bf's sake (and peace at home) you're hoping mil will just do something you've bloody asked and not take the piss. Sounds like you were hoping just this short 3 hour test would go well.

Unfortunately no matter how much you bite your tongue or do the opposite and tell her straight, she's not respecting you as child's mother. BF sounds useless in defending you or backing your choices. This must wear you down.

When mine came along, mil had basically brought up her other grandkids (their parents would drop them there all day mon to fri) so when mine came along she expected baby at hers regularly. I fully bf so thankfully the perfect excuse. Even bf she told dh it was bad for baby as you can't see how much baby is having... dh told me how bf was bad as his mum said so- he changed when HV explained how good bf is. Mil wanted to feed/ look after baby at hers- impossible with a bf baby not on bottles. Then she would moan at dh for things I'd do with my baby she didn't like/ agree with.
One day after another argument of dh defending her points and suggestions (give 2 months baby custard to eat etc) I phoned her and said she's causing arguments and issues and can she stop telling dh things but call me and tell me direct if she has something to say. It worked as she backed off. I also had to put dh in his place a bit too saying unlike the other parents of the grandkids I WANT to have my baby with me. Thankfully it worked but they've never looked after her.

I think you need to talk with bf about the impact it's having on you and find solutions or separate. And mil needs to be supervised with dd and knocking into line!

Hope all works out.

chubbyhotchoc · 17/06/2020 23:09

Hmmm she sounds difficult and a bit mad. You sound like you have severe anxiety. This is not a good combination. Definitely you need to stop using her for childcare.

AlexandPea · 17/06/2020 23:10

OP, you must have been beside yourself with worry when MIL didn’t return with your baby. Flowers

Time to stop letting your MIL babysit.

GinghamStyle · 17/06/2020 23:12

If you leave your BF, he’ll move back in with his mum. Guess who’ll be looking after DD when daddy has “contact”? If you think you’ve got a MIL problem now, it’ll be much worse when you break up and she’s having her every other weekend and an evening in the week!

BBCONEANDTWO · 17/06/2020 23:13

If you want to give instructions to someone who is looking after your baby you have to pay them. Much as I liked my MIL I knew for a fact she wouldn't have the same routine I wanted so I paid for a child minder - it's much easier. e.g. when you decide to start potty training etc, nap times, food, drinks.

I think you were a bit unreasonable at first not wanting her to hold the baby though. Everyone wants to hold the new baby it's a joyous time.

Sometimeswinning · 17/06/2020 23:15

How did she feed a non weaned baby a yogurt? I dont think that happened. 4 hours and the baby didnt cry? A few hours and you sent a load of snacks? I think you maybe exagerating a bit. If you feel that strongly then you dont use her as childcare. She has different ideas and probably respects your ideas as much as you do hers. It's your baby's dad you need to speak to.

EmmiJay · 17/06/2020 23:15

Get a childminder and a new boyfriend. She sounds horrendous. Stop using her. It'll save your blood pressure.

wildthingsinthenight · 17/06/2020 23:16

This sounds awful OP Flowers
I really sympathise. If you don't want your child to have chocolate then this should be respected. She repeatedly showed she doesn't respect your wishes. Not just about chocolate. Don't give her any more chances.
Your BF also sounds spineless

AllsortsofAwkward · 17/06/2020 23:17

Tbh dont sound compatible in the slightest if youre dp allows this to happen

B1rdbra1n · 17/06/2020 23:17

tricky!

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84teacher · 17/06/2020 23:19

@MrsP2015

Gosh you poor thing.

I'm guessing for your bf's sake (and peace at home) you're hoping mil will just do something you've bloody asked and not take the piss. Sounds like you were hoping just this short 3 hour test would go well.

Unfortunately no matter how much you bite your tongue or do the opposite and tell her straight, she's not respecting you as child's mother. BF sounds useless in defending you or backing your choices. This must wear you down.

When mine came along, mil had basically brought up her other grandkids (their parents would drop them there all day mon to fri) so when mine came along she expected baby at hers regularly. I fully bf so thankfully the perfect excuse. Even bf she told dh it was bad for baby as you can't see how much baby is having... dh told me how bf was bad as his mum said so- he changed when HV explained how good bf is. Mil wanted to feed/ look after baby at hers- impossible with a bf baby not on bottles. Then she would moan at dh for things I'd do with my baby she didn't like/ agree with.
One day after another argument of dh defending her points and suggestions (give 2 months baby custard to eat etc) I phoned her and said she's causing arguments and issues and can she stop telling dh things but call me and tell me direct if she has something to say. It worked as she backed off. I also had to put dh in his place a bit too saying unlike the other parents of the grandkids I WANT to have my baby with me. Thankfully it worked but they've never looked after her.

I think you need to talk with bf about the impact it's having on you and find solutions or separate. And mil needs to be supervised with dd and knocking into line!

Hope all works out.

Thank you, you sound almost exactly like me! I wanted baby with me, yes I was probably a bit of a helicopter parent but I am also a career-woman. I knew that at 34, and with the career I have, I am probably only going to have 1 child.

I also work 60± hours per week, so I really maximised my maternity leave. MIL was completely against breastfeeding because she hadn't done it, so I also had the whole: "let me give her a bottle..." Saga. She was also very disappointed that I didn't want to spend full days with her and preferred taking baby to classes and socialising with other mother's.

My baby is her first grandchild, it's highly unlikely that she will be provided with a grandchild from her daughter. She is also a retired lonely widow. While I fully sympathise, I think that this is the perfect recipe for an overbearing MIL.

I had suspected post-natal anxiety, after months of therapy my doctor concluded that it was her causing most of it.

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Enough4me · 17/06/2020 23:20

Taking your young baby away for hours would make me avoid her, I would also leave your BF as he is a complete wet rag.

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