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MIL ignores my instructions... again

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84teacher · 17/06/2020 21:52

My daughter is 17 months old and ever since she was born there has been friction between my boyfriend's mother and I; its as if she has no regard for any routines or instructions I give, and does as she pleases. I could handle this if my boyfriend backed me up but he never does, he thinks I am unreasonable... am I?

Many things have happened and each time I have raised the issue with my boyfriend, but it develops into an argument as he sees it all as harsh criticism of his mother, but I will summarise a few:

MIL turned up at our house with her daughter, son-in-law and elderly neighbour within an hour of us getting home from the hospital. I had been discharged 20 hours after giving birth. My boyfriend had decided that no family were allowed to visit for the first few days - I think he actually meant just MY family. I was not told they were coming, but my boyfriend had been on the phone to them while I was having a nap on the sofa and told them they could visit. I held my baby close and refused to let MIL hold her when she asked; I told her that I needed time to bond with my baby and wouldn't be letting anybody but her father hold her for the first week or so.

For the first month of our baby's life MIL kept visiting unannounced; she had been given a key for our apartment 2 weeks before I went into labour so that she could come and feed our Cats if needed. MIL refused to give the key up until I physically took it from her on the final unannounced visit. During her visits MIL would try and take baby from my breast as she was feeding, she also snook in to the bedroom while I was asleep and took baby from the bassinet to have a cuddle in the living room.

Biggie!!! When baby was 4 months old MIL and SIL came to visit when I had taken her out for a walk; when I returned MIL had come out of the apartment, down 5 flights of stairs and was running towards me screeching and waving her arms. She asked if she could take baby for a walk in the pram on her own. I obliged but informed her that baby would be due a feed soon, so she must be back in 30 minutes. When MIL wasn't back in time I tried to call her phone but it was switched off. SIL and BF were telling me not to panic, and give her more time. After an hour I got my trainers on and sprinted (very difficult with full breasts) around the block to try and find her, she was nowhere to be seen. I returned and sent BF and SIL out in their cars to find her. BF returned with her 4 HOURS AFTER SHE HAD LEFT; it turned out she had been to meet "friends" (my boyfriend's ex-gf and her sister) for coffee in the local park; MIL had also given baby a yoghurt (not even a baby yoghurt, she was solely breastfed and I hadn't started weaning her at that point).

After the incident above I refused to let MIL have any alone time with baby at all until she was 11 months old. MIL had offered to look after her when I returned to work full-time and BF was refusing to use any paid childcare. I let her look after baby for a few hours each afternoon while I caught up with housework. I knew she was struggling, she has no empathy and no patience with children. A few weeks before I was due back at work she turned on the water-works and told BF that she couldn't cope with looking after baby, but then blamed it on me - she said that I had denied her the chance to bond and get to know her granddaughter.

The covid-19 lockdown... MIL turns up unannounced a few times each week and expects to come into the house to see baby; I put my foot down straight away and agree to letting her see her in the garden (even though this is still technically against the law in the UK at that point). She cannot even remember to keep her distance and has to be told numerous times to back off; so I had to be the bad-guy again and insist that she only sees her through the window. We get the water-works again, BF and I don't speak for days because of the argument we had.

The latest... I am falling behind on work at home and we can now form bubbles in the UK, so we agreed that MIL can look after our daughter 2 afternoons each week. As my daughter is now 17 months old she is much more independent, and is able to tell you what she wants (and does not want). This afternoon I dropped her off with a bag of toys, a healthy snack, water cup etc. I gave MIL instructions that she should have her snack at around 3pm, to keep offering her water throughout the afternoon, ensure she is not in the sun for too long - all common-sense stuff really. More background: SIL is VERY obese (has diabetes and asthma because of her weight), MIL is a feeder; for the duration of our relationship I have been amazed at how my MIL instantly offers my BF (38 yo) biscuits, sweets and chocolates as soon as she sees him, and like a little child he never says no and doesn't actually know when to stop eating them. So... I also very clearly told her: NO CHOCOLATE OR BISCUITS! Baby has snacks in the bag, please only offer her them. BF collects baby on his way home from work and returns an hour later than usual; another really annoying trait MIL has is fault-picking, first it was the dreaded wind, then she thought baby had ADHD (I'm a teacher... don't even try this one on me when you have no educational experience Carol!), she is the sort of person who has to play doctor and find something wrong with baby - and it usually stems from something she thinks I am doing wrong. So when BF returns baby is overtired and hungry... - of course she is! If you had come straight home she could've had the dinner that has been ready for over 30 minutes!!! Baby's bib and T-Shirt are covered in CHOCOLATE, her snacks are still in the bag untouched and her sippy-cup smells of cordial. I try to be calm and tell BF that I left his mother with instructions and repeat them to him. He just walks away, mutters something under his breath and then ignores me until baby has gone to bed.

We just had yet another argument. Yes, I understand that a little chocolate once in a while, and a little cordial is probably harmless; but my point is that once again, she has completely disregarded my instructions and done her own thing. I raised the issue of his sister, and the fact that when living with his mother he too was obese. This didn't go down very well but I had to bring it up in my defence. I do not want my child growing up addicted to cake, biscuits and chocolate in the very unhealthy way that her aunty is, and her father was... all because MIL cannot follow simple instructions.

I just feel like I cannot trust this woman at all, and am so angry with my BF that I feel like leaving him. There are other mummy's-boy issues underpinning this that have affected our relationship.

So... thank you for reading. Am I being unreasonable here?

OP posts:
choli · 18/06/2020 03:31

@SoosanCarter

YABU to call the father of your child “my boyfriend”. Twee.
Better than calling someone who obviously isn't her partner her DP.
ARoseInHarlem · 18/06/2020 03:35

Please read the entire post. My daughter usually goes to nursery full-time while I am at work. I am currently working from home. MIL had her for 3 hours today so I could catch up on work as I have to give the nursery a weeks notice, and also due to social distancing they don't have enough places available anyway

Right. Your MIL had her so you could catch up on work. It was your choice (your, plural as the child has two parents) for you to catch up with work and send her to your MIL and not, say, organise 3hrs with your DO watching her while you catch up with your work. Or your parents. Or someone else.

You’re not the only mum having to work. The majority of mums do it, and a minority of those receive help from a MIL with the expectation that she follow their “instructions”.

Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. Instead of being grateful she was there to watch your child because the nursery was shut and your DP couldn’t/wouldn’t and nobody else would or could do it, you’re mad at her for not following instructions! It’s ridiculous. Cop onto yourself. She’s a grandmother, not your employee.

(The cordial is off, but the chocolate is fine - the odd bit here and there isn’t going to make your child obese fgs Hmm)

Blondebakingmumma · 18/06/2020 04:16

I’m not sure how you have put up with this for so long. I would have called the police if I was in your position and MIL disappeared with my baby. She under no circumstances would EVER be allowed alone time with the child again.

Hire a sitter or enroll in day care. I wouldn’t even discuss my grievances with my partner, I’d just make up excuses why MIL can’t have child at the time. It’s not worth the fallout.

HannaYeah · 18/06/2020 04:57

Sometimes I wish posters would just post facts without detail so that others didn’t get fixated on the details:

MIL took the child saying she’d be back at X time. She purposely lied.
(Doesn’t matter if people reading threading wouldn’t mind this, where she went or why. Only matters that she purposely lied to the baby’s primary care giver.)

OP told MIL that Baby could only eat X and actually needed Y also. MIL purposely fed baby A,B,C and purposely did not feed child X or Y. (Doesn’t matter if people reading the thread think A,B,C is wonderful and delicious for babies, only matters that this particular baby’s primary care giver has determined it’s not good for this baby.)

I’d go full court press getting BF on my side. I’d be the best GF on the planet. Whatever it takes. Because last thing I’d want is his beast of a mother winning and having any say over my child. Don’t kick him out, draw him closer.

BullshitVivienne · 18/06/2020 05:15

God people really don't read do they? The child is usually in nursery but this isn't an option at the moment, because the nursery isn't fully open.

Whenwillthisbeover · 18/06/2020 05:29

It sounds like one extreme to another with her a nightmare and you over protective so no middle ground. I think reminding your MIL that a baby shouldn’t be put in the sun and needs water throughout the day is insulting, not letting her hold her new GC for a few minutes ridiculous but her taking a new baby And feeding a yoghurt is Beyond nuts.

I think you need to meet in the middle for time spent with your baby, and get proper childcare.

makingmammaries · 18/06/2020 05:57

You need a proper childminder and a proper partner. Why did you get involved with this awful family? Do not have any more children with this pathetic excuse for a man.

Jokie · 18/06/2020 06:11

You have a massive BF issue here. Not just with not supporting you a d following your wishes but by not paying his share of childcare. I don't think you were unreasonable and I wouldn't be trusting her again.

Shoxfordian · 18/06/2020 06:20

You have a boyfriend issue, he needs to decide who he wants to support. She sounds like a drama as well. Don't leave your daughter there again obviously

AllyBamma · 18/06/2020 06:22

On my god, did I read that right? Your partner pays nothing towards childcare because he feels his mother should be doing the childcare??
If I’ve got that right then you have a much MUCH bigger problem and a meddling MIL. Your partner isn’t a partner. He sounds like a mummy’s boy who never has your back. For the sake of your child and your own sanity, please raise your bar and realise that this is no life for you. Get rid of them both and go and make a happy life with your little girl

TW2013 · 18/06/2020 06:45

If you leave him then your dd will be with MIL whenever he has her, that could be up to 50:50, she might encourage him to push for that even if he is fairly lazy and wouldn't off his own bat. I would only do this as a last resort.

The early stuff was bad, but having not been left with MIL for months I would try to live with the occasional biscuit and squash, reminding myself that having that environment for a few hours every few months will have minimal impact. Being in that environment up to 50:50 of the time will. BF should be paying his share of child care because it was MIL who said she couldn't cope so not your fault.

PopsicleHustler · 18/06/2020 07:05

Good morning.
You are definitely not being unreasonable. This is definitely not on. I mean who the hell takes a baby off a breast mid feed and also takes a baby for a walk that is exclusively breastfeeding, disappears for 4 hours and turns their phone off.
You have been extremely kind giving her chances but this is not on and your partner is clearly siding with his mother and it always looks like he will always.

She sounds absolutely awful. I'd keep her at arms length and also I'd be reconsidering my relationship too. Doesnt sound great. He doesnt seem to be supportive to the mother of his child and if he keeps getting the huff and not talking for days it will always be like this.

I cant believe she even brought their elderly neighbour round. What's this person got to do with you or the baby.

I wish you the best of luck with this.

022828MAN · 18/06/2020 07:05

I'm surprised you gave her another chance after her kidnapping your child for 4 hours!!!!!

SteelyPanther · 18/06/2020 07:18

I feel like telling you take that child and run for the hills, but the reality is that you’d have no control over what happens when she’s with her dad.
I assume he’d get her 50% of the time, whereas when you’re together you can make sure MIL sees her far less.
I agree with others, get childcare elsewhere sorted and have minimal contact with his family.

eatsleepread · 18/06/2020 07:23

All this bloody nonsense about not letting family visit or hold the baby at first. It's cruel and so controlling.

Oldbutstillgotit · 18/06/2020 07:26

No idea why OP is getting such a hard time . Clearly her BF doesn’t have her back (and I know what that is like and it never improved ; yet another reason we divorced !).
He says no visitors then invites HIS family ! I wouldn’t have let go of my baby either!
Yes, slightly OTT about liberal use of the word instruction and the chocolate but otherwise I fail to see what OP has done wrong !
She pays for childcare and I can almost guarantee that her BF does little around the house or much parenting .
Your big problem will be if you separate and he gives his DM your DC to look after when it’s his turn to have her .

geojojo · 18/06/2020 07:35

You're not being unreasonable. I would not rely on childcare from your mil. I think you will either have to accept that she will do parenting her way and make peace with this until you can return your dd to nursery or get by working from home whilst caring for your dd. Also your boyfriend is not on the same page as you. You need to discuss this first and be in agreement. It won't work if he's not supportive of your parenting choices.

MsSlightyConfused · 18/06/2020 07:38

@Oldbutstillgotit it’s probably all the MILs on here having a pop

Dee1975 · 18/06/2020 07:42

Taking baby for a 4 hour walk when she was due a feed in 30 mins would have done it for me ... and then feeding baby a yogurt! Dont let her have the baby or see the baby unsupervised ... ever ... she has no regard for you as the mother. She is disrespectful and quite frankly rude and obnoxious.

Soon2BeMumof3 · 18/06/2020 07:44

My god, I'm amazed you gave her another chance after she disappeared with your breastfed baby.

You need to go to couples counseling with your boyfriend. You need an independent expert to look him in the eye and tell him firmly that his first loyalty is to you, the mother of his child.

Do not leave your daughter with her again. She had many chances and she blew it.

84teacher · 18/06/2020 07:55

@Whenwillthisbeover

It sounds like one extreme to another with her a nightmare and you over protective so no middle ground. I think reminding your MIL that a baby shouldn’t be put in the sun and needs water throughout the day is insulting, not letting her hold her new GC for a few minutes ridiculous but her taking a new baby And feeding a yoghurt is Beyond nuts.

I think you need to meet in the middle for time spent with your baby, and get proper childcare.

My baby shouldn't be left in the sun as she has very fair skin like me, and I have had skin cancer... Twice!
OP posts:
Ireolu · 18/06/2020 08:04

The saga at 4 months taking her for hours and giving baby that young yoghurt is terrible. That would have been it for me.

You also sound neurotic and on balance I think you are being unreasonable. You don't trust the woman but keep giving her the baby to look after even if on a one off. Don't do it if it's going to upset and annoy you and she can't do it by your exacting standards.

Turtletotem · 18/06/2020 08:11

I'm shocked at how many people say YABU
I have a 17 month old grandchild, the systems and routines my daughter and son in law have put in place are fully stuck to and respected when I'm given the opportunity to have precious time with the baby. The cost of nursery is shared by both parents as it ought to be. I would never give chocolate or squash to the baby either.
I think you need to sort all this out with your boyfriend first. Good luck to you Flowers

TeaAndHobnob · 18/06/2020 08:11

Just send your boyfriend back to his mother's.

He still sees her as his primary family, all family decisions revolve around her wants and preferences.

What's good for you or your baby doesn't figure into his decisions.

He's unsupportive and lazy. Just bin him off.

Wakaranaihito · 18/06/2020 08:16

I think if you read this back in a few years you might acknowledge that, in the general scheme of things this was not really important. Sounds like you don't like your MiL at all anyway. We are far more likely to tolerate errors in judgement from people we love. She is the grandma - she might not be nice or perfect but there is every chance your DC loves her and so does your BF. Tread carefully.