Why are ASDA normalising paedophilia and Child Abuse?

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Is it OK for ASDA to send parents emails linking to an organisation that normalises paedophilia with red flag phrases such as "love has no age", and recommending books for children that contain explicit descriptions of child sex abuse? Why are they doing this? Are ASDA experts in home schooling and safeguarding? More details in this excellent thread by Safe Schools Alliance: twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1272638132589035520

I don't know who Adrian Comerford is but he sounds well dodgy if he thinks teaching children about the mechanics of kinky, and often painful, sexual practices is going to make them "happy".
I think there's probably a very broad margin between children being "ignorant"(although I think we used to call that "innocent") and handing them the karma fucking sutra of kink and saying " it's all fiiine"
I'm a grown woman. I've been around the block a few times, I've probably done things that would shock quite a few people and there are things mentioned in this "guidance" for CHILDREN that i had never even heard of.
Anyone defending this is so woke they are basically lobotomised, or they are something far more sinister, and there ought to be some sort of list to put them on.

There's no mention of the risks of faecal bacteria, anywhere. Not when talking about licking an anus, or ( what the fuck..??? ) rubbing vulva and anus together for pleasure

Jesus, I had to look up "docking"
Isn't one of the joys of growing sexually as an adult, learning and exploring sexual activity at your own pace?
Obviously, total ignorance is dangerous too and repression is damaging too, but why do children need to know this? Where's the education on safety in intimacy, care and respect?
Is sex ed now going to about a series of holes and objects?
I seriously don't get it.

Also, WTF has happened to the Daily Heil? They copy half of the rest of AIBU. This is something they could actually help with.

I can't believe I've made it to the age of 35 without ever knowing what docking was. Every day's a school day (excuse the deliberate pun)

I’m 51 and I don’t know (not looking it up either) 🙈

If you think docking is bad, look up felching.
Disgusting 🤢🤮

Me neither no intention of googling, if anyone would care to enlighten me.

It's a gay sex act involving the foreskins of two penises. So, to be fair there's absolutely no reason for anyone other than gay adults men to know about it. And school kids obviously

Apologies for typos - long day

DH asked what I doing as I was writing to ASDA and I started reading out the passages of the book I found concerning and he asked me to stop.
He is a liberal grown adult but he couldn't face hearing about the six year old performing sex acts.
We shouldn't be normalizing this for dc either.
(I've worked in the field for 20 years almost so it doesn't impact me as much)

@AwakeNotWoke

It's a gay sex act involving the foreskins of two penises. So, to be fair there's absolutely no reason for anyone other than gay adults men to know about it. And school kids obviously

Head on nail.

I'm late to this thread, but am long aware of DRM, who have infiltrated my son's school.

I've already posted one of their tweets in which they RT male strippers. And, when I previously posted a picture of the female identifying 'leader'who goes into my son's school, it was deleted by MN. I think it's a picture most parents should see.

Here is another link to an investigative piece by Transgender Trend if you've not seen it

www.transgendertrend.com/diversity-role-models-conformity-new-ideology/

(although it's highly doubtful their brains are ready to process their teacher telling them all about how pleasurable 'docking' can be)
As a teacher, who is quite comfortable delivering sex and relationships education in a professional way, the idea of teaching that makes me shudder.

It's concerning how many people who are not qualified teachers seem to think being in a lobby group makes them qualified or professionally experienced enough to weigh in on SRE in a way that largely translates to 'anything goes at any age and if you disagree you're a bigot'

[quote HandsOffMyRights]I'm late to this thread, but am long aware of DRM, who have infiltrated my son's school.

I've already posted one of their tweets in which they RT male strippers. And, when I previously posted a picture of the female identifying 'leader'who goes into my son's school, it was deleted by MN. I think it's a picture most parents should see.

Here is another link to an investigative piece by Transgender Trend if you've not seen it

www.transgendertrend.com/diversity-role-models-conformity-new-ideology/[/quote]
Jesus. That link is just awful.

As someone more erudite then me said "this is indoctrination, not education.

I have no idea what the Baroness looks like but in my mind she's a cross between Harriet Jones (we know who you are) from Doctor Who and Carolyn from Cabin Pressure

The idea that anyone who objects to this is a pearl clutching prude who can't face talking about sex is so annoying.
I wrote to ASDA because I'm a concerned middle aged mum.
But I'm also someone who has worked in child protection for 20 years, with ten of those being providing therapeutic support for children and young people who have been sexually abused.
I'm fine talking about sex, I strongly suspect my own dc say I talk about it too much with them!
It isn't a 1950's desire to avoid sex Ed that drives me but a wish of all dc and particularly girls to have sound, safe and non judgmental conversations around this. The work produced by this company isn't any of those things.

Well that's a great letter from the Baroness to Roger the Dodger.
It's given me heart.

I hope that she gets a reply from him, I'm still waiting, after I replied to the Jon bot email two days ago.

cross between Harriet Jones (we know who you are) from Doctor Who and Carolyn from Cabin Pressure

Definitely!

1. In ye olden days when I was a girl, the porn was in magazines (which for some reason always found their way into hedges) and women had pubes and the things we giggled over to do with sex were pretty mainstream

1. Back in the day, boys generally had a bit of a checklist and I doubt much has changed. Those days the things to 'get a girl to do' were oral (on him obv) and doggy

1. The 'female as gatekeeper of sex' prevailed. The boy would badger to get the thing for the checklist, to 'try', to say he'd done it

1. Which isn't to say that girls that age aren't interested in 'trying' stuff too. Plenty are quite interested in finding out what the things they have heard about are like

1. Of course the dynamic is different for girls. Some boys had sneaked looks at 'the joy of sex' and tried rubbing randomly but generally realistically it's often not brilliant for girls (both inexperienced) while boys are going to orgasm (pretty much always!). Plus risk of pregnancy, and what might be said about them etc. Boys do brsg to reach other. Girls do to, to be fair! But in our society girls and boys are judged very differently around sex

1. As you grew up and learnt and explored you found out what you liked and this was a journey over a long time. So the trickier, or more niche stuff, would come down the line and as a progression iyswim

Now we have the proliferation of really pretty extreme porn, the expectation of female personal grooming etc is different. The expectations of what girls look like/ do is higher. The 'checklist' of things to do is really long and includes things which used be be considered niche and can cause injury and worse if done not well, which lets face it for school kids who don't don't what they're doing and have learnt from porn, are not likely to be done well.

Now we have info given to schoolkids, not talking about this Asda thing specifically but loads of resources and sites I've seen aimed at 13 up that follow a theme. Really quite extreme stuff presented as a norm. If you don't like it at first keep trying. Very male centric. Very little talk of female pleasure. There is usually done generic blurb about consent and coercion and then on we go to detailed info about acts and what to do if it hurts (more lube!) Etc

It's a adult male centred view which is being sold as progressive and awesome for really quite young children to look at (13 is still a kid).

It's genuinely awful.

NB I started writing this before work drinks at 630 so if it's moved on, sorry!

Ah The Joy of Sex I remember poring over that as a kid. All that hair! I was interested, but, although The Joy of Sex was educational (and if I remember right it was very focused on intimacy and female pleasure), it always seemed like something from Hairy, Smelly, Adult land. Not somewhere I needed to go anywhere near at all, thank God!
Maybe we should bring it back. Better that than the hard, shiny, speeded up, plastic porno asthetic nowadays.

One of the problems for the Daily Mail is that it’s difficult to talk about the Proud Trust without talking about anal and lubricants and things that might be too much even for them. I had to brace myself to use those words when writing to my MP who still hasn’t responded (three weeks and counting)

Lol ifnot

Had a few drinks so can share this...

I remember going into the bookshop when I was 16 with same age boyfriend and we sat on the floor (edgy!) and looked through it. I'm amazed they didn't chuck us out! I can't remember much past the man had a big beard and the things looked a bit complicated. And of course we didn't have a bed and a quickie in secluded spots is not really amenable to sensual exploration

I wasn't shocked at the hair as this was years ago when most men didn't do anything with their body hair at all and women only tended to do legs and pits.

Of course there were plenty of feminist issues to get your teeth into, but from a sex and grooming pov it was more natural/ mutual etc.

We have come a long way in lots of areas but it often feels like when we gain on the one hand, something has to be taken with the other.

Well Martina has retweeted someone who tweeted the baroness’ letter, so I can go to bed happy

One of the problems for the Daily Mail is that it’s difficult to talk about the Proud Trust without talking about anal and lubricants and things that might be too much even for them.

You need to throw in some immigrants and show that it's affecting house prices for the Mail. And just as "What would Diana do ?" and you've covered the Express.