Why are ASDA normalising paedophilia and Child Abuse?

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Is it OK for ASDA to send parents emails linking to an organisation that normalises paedophilia with red flag phrases such as "love has no age", and recommending books for children that contain explicit descriptions of child sex abuse? Why are they doing this? Are ASDA experts in home schooling and safeguarding? More details in this excellent thread by Safe Schools Alliance: twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1272638132589035520

Equating LGBT people with paedophilia is so 80s. I had thought we’d got beyond that.

Paedophilia occurs across sexual orientations.

Anyone can be a predator. There are no sacred castes. That’s one of the very first rules of safeguarding. Act like everyone is a risk until they prove otherwise.

I can't see the beyond magenta text listed in either of the packs - can someone direct me to it?

@macaronilemonpony

‘Any adult interested in talking to kids about sex is a pedo.’

And does that include their teachers in PSHE or not? ASDA are ‘talking’ to kids, their providing some resources that some adults might find useful.
Not most the ones on her obviously.

Teachers and parents have a duty to answer questions and teach in an age appropriate way. They'd hardly cite it as an interest.

There shouldn't be anything dodgy or concerning in sex and relationships resources for children. No paedophile positive comments, no extreme porn, no celebrating kinks and fetishes.
I've worked in safeguarding and teaching SRE for years. Everything is carefully assessed and discussed before it gets anywhere near children - because children are different. How do we ensure abused children are supported through SRE - especially if they've never disclosed? What does age appropriate look like in a mixed ability classroom? How do we discuss STDs with 13 year olds? Is it different for 16 year olds? How do we ensure that our own personal attitudes / beliefs about sex don't dictate how we work with children?
Diversity and inclusion is not an excuse to manipulate children, erode their boundaries or confront them with age inappropriate material and it's long overdue for this to stop.

I had a fine collection of toy cars and Lego when I was small. Was mad about football too and monitored all the placings in each division on a big chart. Hated dolls intensely. Hit puberty and... boy mad!! I agree that we can like what we like and in a small child it is no indication of anything beyond... well, just liking something. (And I still love Lego and football; toy cars not so much.)

Recognition of different family set-ups = fine. Talking to young children about sexuality and making out that anything with anybody is just fine and dandy = deeply suspect and should be illegal.

‘Didn’t Asda recently hand out pronoun badges to staff? I mean, why?’

No, they made them available to staff who wanted to wear them. They were asked to by some staff, that’s why. Big difference.

I have a butch lesbian friend, who gets taken for a Man all the time, she’d prefer not to be - and wears the badge. Saves embarrassment all round.

This is getting interesting - the PDF has been cropped to remove the booklist. But they forgot to remove the link in the index.

www.diversityrolemodels.org/media/1457/diversity-role-models-home-learning-pack-secondary-school-v2.pdf

The extract that isn’t actually in any of those resources? Or are my eyes worse than I thought?

They probably are. The book Beyond Magenta is the second out of a list of only four books linked to as inclusive reading in the diversity pack aimed at secondary school children. HTH.

• their providing some resources that some adults might find useful. Not most the ones on her obviously.*

The paedophile that abused me, throughout my childhood and most of my teenage years, would have loved pointing out that booklet, and the ‘advice’ about using objects, love having no age, etc, to gaslight me even more. I can just imagine the glee of abusive family members when they’re pointing this out to their children, to prove that the child is wrong for feeling uncomfortable, upset, terrified. After all, if Asda promotes this book, it must be ok.

Peter - is that you?

I did wonder how long it would take for the fan club to turn up.

A few now plopping on later in the thread, pretending there is nowt to see, and suggesting that the ladees are being hysterical.

Thanks to the courage of women on here who have spoken up for years. We see you.

@Graciebobcat

That makes me so angry that people says kids don't need to know about different types of relationship. Of course they do! We went to a wedding when DD1 was 3, and DD2 was a newborn - DD1 knew from then on that girls could marry girls and boys could marry boys. Even though some kids at nursery tried to tell her otherwise.

The DVD DD2 watched in Y5 last year was from the early noughties, before section 28 was repealed. No mention of "you may have feelings for someone of the same sex" at puberty. Unbelieveable in this day and age.

Did you teach her about scissoring? Cottaging?

When will she be old enough to know?

Editing the online PDF then pretending ''it never said that'' isnt going to wash.

This is getting interesting - the PDF has been cropped to remove the booklist. But they forgot to remove the link in the index.

What a bunch of muppets. In the interest of transparency here is the screenshot of the original document. Linking to Beyond Magenta a book that promotes child sex abuse by graphically describing indecent acts with a 6 year old child. It is the author of this book not worried posters who draw a connection between LGBT and abuse.

Asda sent out this 'resource' to unsuspecting families many of whom might diligently read the pack and check out the reading list. Asda sent a link to child abuse material to its customers.

“Did you teach her about scissoring? Cottaging?

When will she be old enough to know?”

F me, is that In the ASDA resources too??
Scissoring, BTW, isn’t actually something lesbians do - it’s not a thing - you’ve got that off watching straight porn. It’s not real life.

Thank heavens for screenshots TheInebriati
Adults qualified / experienced in working with children and safeguarding would have spotted these issues immediately.
Adults working in sexual politics and political activism see no problem.

To all those confused people who think teaching kids about same sex relationships is the same as normalising child abuse you all need to check yourselves sharpish.

Are you all so woke and right on that you'll actively promote material and behaviour that damages kids??

That (scissoring et al) will be part of the point being made. HTH.

"Encouraging and supporting trans kids (as much as I hate it) is one thing." Christ almighty - you hate trans kids being encouraged and supported. Listen to yourself.

@macaronilemonpony

“Did you teach her about scissoring? Cottaging?

When will she be old enough to know?”

F me, is that In the ASDA resources too??
Scissoring, BTW, isn’t actually something lesbians do - it’s not a thing - you’ve got that off watching straight porn. It’s not real life.

I'm well aware what lesbians do as I'm one myself.

Are you suggesting that promoting a book for kids which contains a description of a 6 year old performing felatio is a good idea?

Yes or no answer please.

How can anyone describe introducing anal sex as normal and the description of child sexual abuse as a small cock up

the pun in that shouldn't have made me laugh!! 🤭

So for those who have appeared and said all of that literature is absolutely great and age appropriate. Are you happy that this supermarket have made it its cause over every other possible child based charity/monetary support it could have chosen at this moment in time?

But they forgot to remove the link in the index.

I wonder what happened to part VIII? Was the intern told to take it out?

Too little too late they need to remove the both document and apologise to their customer for putting their families at risk. and offer complementary mind bleach

‘How can anyone describe introducing anal sex as normal ‘

What ARE you people on??

@montyliesandmontycries

Have you read the resources? Where is the ‘promotion’ of paedophilia? They’re resources available for anyone who wishes to use them- if you don’t find them useful or want to use them then don’t.

There are a few issues with the primary school pack. The main issue is saying 'love has no age limit' without directly referring to the older couple in the video and gives no context as to what they were referring to (that older people find love too). I don't know why it is even really mentioned in the video but a point has been made of it. By repeating this, It also means that a idea pushed by groomers is reinforced in this document. Even unintentionally.

You could ask what relevance in the video of the boy going to a foster home with new foster parents, is the fact that the men had a 'bunny' wedding.

The Secondary school pack mentioned a book on the recommended reading that has been gone over here on this thread. I have looked and even though the book list is referenced in the index, that book list has been removed from the pack now (or is it that I looked a different download).

The second thing I took exception to is that under 'what you can do' is a link to a news article that advocates for people to submit to the Scottish GRA consultation. So, based on the brief information in the pack and that article only, they are advocating for teens to 'do something' and submit to the consultation. Manipulative much? Propaganda in the name of educational learning?

@onegirlandherdog

"Encouraging and supporting trans kids (as much as I hate it) is one thing." Christ almighty - you hate trans kids being encouraged and supported. Listen to yourself.

This such an obviously disingenuous take I am wondering if it is meant to be satire?

www.dictionary.com/e/slang/poes-law/

I’m very concerned about the strange posters that have popped on here, in order to defend a completely inappropriate book for children. They really need to look at their boundaries and educate themselves on safeguarding. Or is it more a case of ‘protect the agenda, at any cost’.