Why are ASDA normalising paedophilia and Child Abuse?

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Is it OK for ASDA to send parents emails linking to an organisation that normalises paedophilia with red flag phrases such as "love has no age", and recommending books for children that contain explicit descriptions of child sex abuse? Why are they doing this? Are ASDA experts in home schooling and safeguarding? More details in this excellent thread by Safe Schools Alliance: twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1272638132589035520

I genuinely don't understand why you would be so upset over 7 year olds being taught appropriate descriptive words and to develop an understanding of some of the ways people identify themselves and others.

See the post I made at 12.24 (count up about 10 words from yours).

It’s not teaching them the words or the concepts that’s problematic, it’s that it needs to be placed in the appropriate context so as not to interfere with the child’s normal developmental process.

For example. I worry about the generation of children who will grow up seeing hardcore, live action porn before they even so much as cop a consensual feel with a peer behind the bus stop.

Women don’t seem to develop paraphilias at the same rates that men do (or at least didn’t, who knows what the internet will do?) but the men who develop fetishes that go on to interfere with healthy sexual functioncan usually trace the origins back to something weird happening at a key developmental part of childhood.

There is a line between not wrapping kids in cotton wool and not involving kids in the adult world before they are developmentally ready to process it healthily.
Asda are on the wrong side of that line today.

@hoodathunkit

Meooowwwgrrrreeeeowwwww - meooowwwwwww-purrrr "Char-leee says - 'Mummy is a horrible TERF because she said that biology is real'.

Meooowwwwww-prrrrurrrrrr "Char-leee says 'Mummy is rotting in jail now because we live in Scotland now'".

I'm laughing and crying at this

Of how about

"Charlie says that I have to be very careful of grown ups asking me to come and see kittens or read books from Asda about things I don't understand"

I’m howling too!

No doubt modern day Char-lee would dismiss our concerns for the sexualisation of children as prudish, right wing, bigoted, funded by US Christian fundamentalists etc etc.

Couldn’t possibly be that we’ve witnessed the extremes of unhealthy sexual dynamics/coercive sexual abuse wrapped up as ‘sex positivity’ personally, could it?

I don’t know what the kid was called - but I never liked him...

This is horrific

Didn’t Asda recently hand out pronoun badges to staff? I mean, why?

Also, whoever the proud trust are, why isn’t safeguarding at the core of their work? Every single Organization directed at or working with children must have safeguarding at its heart. I thought that was law?

Don't know. Which children's charity had a member of staff posting pictures of himself wanking in the toilets from work and stood by him?

Also have ASDA dressed this I can't face 12 pages.

@FishAreAcquaintancesNotFood

Also, whoever the proud trust are, why isn’t safeguarding at the core of their work? Every single Organization directed at or working with children must have safeguarding at its heart. I thought that was law?

Don't know. Which children's charity had a member of staff posting pictures of himself wanking in the toilets from work and stood by him?

NSPCC!

I don't think anyone on here is saying that, at least I hope not.

But this is the whole trojan horse of it.

People are so trained now to be sensitive, to not accidentally give the wrong message or be suspected of showing intolerance or illiberalism or not being enthusiastic about their children knowing about diversity that they are easily bluffed into accepting adults walking right over safeguarding boundaries when it's nicely dressed up in the right signalling language and vocabulary.

This is known. This lingo and the diversity and inclusion words are used for very good reason: because it legitimises and signals and soothes. It tells you the stuff that you go yes, yes, absolutely yes to and then slides in something in the middle of it to make it harder to spot or disagree with because of the context.

We're at a time and place in society where unfortunately we have to think for ourselves and unpack and check everything, because marketing has got very clever indeed, and those who are marketing can no longer be trusted to be moral, or intending the good they are working so hard to convince you of.

Have you read the resources? Where is the ‘promotion’ of paedophilia?
They’re resources available for anyone who wishes to use them- if you don’t find them useful or want to use them then don’t.

However I am alarmed by feminists being told to shut up about their concerns. And by the push that children somehow are mature in their sexuality early enough to make huge life changing decisions. Or sex education to be dictated by promotional groups and not evidence plus safeguarding.

You have summed up the strategy. Predators groom adults first to win their trust.

Predators groom adults first to win their trust.

Exactly. I only realised this after watching Abducted in Plain Sight

www.netflix.com/title/81000864?s=i&trkid=13747225

"Have you read the resources? Where is the ‘promotion’ of paedophilia?
They’re resources available for anyone who wishes to use them- if you don’t find them useful or want to use them then don’t."

Oh dear

Where is the ‘promotion’ of paedophilia?

Maintaining appropriate boundaries between adults and children wrt sex is safeguarding 101. Educational information which presents sexual activity between an adult and a minor as consensual and no cause for alarm is dangerous and should not be normalised.

That's fucking horrifying. Normalising sexual behaviour in a 6 year old is gross.

Good god. Asda you absolute idiots. Lazy, credulous idiots.

@montyliesandmontycries did you read the page of the book advised for children from the age of 11? It discusses a 6 year old "giving oral sex" and enjoying etc. I won't go into it because it makes me want to vomit.

Well hello there, Paedophile Information Exchange, I see you've returned.

No fatted calves for you. Fuck off.

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In any case, what's so alarming about children knowing what bisexual, heterosexual, transgender etc mean? There is a time and place to learn about this. The time is not when kids are at primary school and the place is not and ASDA leaflet.

Children aged 7-11 do not need to know that there are different types of sexual attraction. Why not? Because they don't need to know about sex. Why not? Because developmentally this is of no relevance to them until they hit puberty. The primary pack talks incessantly about loving and being attracted to people whatever their sex. The primary pack conflates love with sex. This is wholly inappropriate and sexualises vulnerable children. I am so sick this sexualised agenda. Keep pride culture for grown ups over the age of consent. It's ok to be different, yes but for children being different has nothing at all to do with sexuality.

Just for anyone's reassurance, we have talk about biology and how babies are made with our dc by focusing on biology and yes we name penis and vagina, they have known how babies are made since they were 4. But we do not talk about sexual attraction, rather that people love each other and might want to become a family.

Our dc know that they are free to have loving relationships with either sex when they are older and that we would always support them whatever they feel is true to them. We also teach them about their and other people' boundaries.

We are not bigots but we know what's appropriate. Gas lighting and suggestive 'learning materials' are not appropriate. Also the pack states someone who doesn't feel like the gender they were given at birth is transgender nobody is given any gender at birth FFS.

Tag lines with love knows no xyz limit aimed at children is a dangerous message to sen out.

OMG that’s disgusting!

YANBU, that's atrocious. That excerpt - ugh.

So what we have is the following:

Asda team up with a charitable organisation that works with children to promote diversity and acceptance (patrons include Clare Balding).

That organisation has produced a home learning kit, in which one section links to a video of an ad campaign by the Ad Council from 5 years ago that promoted diversity in relationships (race, gay, disabilities, etc) - that video contains a 2-second section in which an elderly married couple say love knows no age limit.

And some posters have decided that this means that Asda is normalising paedophilia?? That's a hell of a stretch imo.

How the fuck did this get past Walmart anyway?

Equating LGBT people with paedophilia is so 80s. I had thought we’d got beyond that.

I don't believe that this has actually happened. In plain sight. Fuck.