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WTAF - Far right protests

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Poppi89 · 12/06/2020 11:18

I have just heard on the radio that far-right protesters will be out tomorrow in response to the BLM protesters. People are being urged not to be out in support of BLM tomorrow due to the aggressive nature of the far-right group and BLM protests are being cancelled because of them.

I am outraged by this. The BLM protesters are asking for people to not be killed due to the colour of their skin. They have rightly or wrongly made a decision to put themselves at risk of COVID-19 to help spread this message - a lot of people have called them idiots etc for doing this.

The far-right protests are now also protesting in large groups (but not in response to a murder) and are 'known' for being aggressive. How is this acceptable?

I would like to hear from anyone who is planning to join/agree with these far-right protests and their reasons why?

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Clavinova · 15/06/2020 20:43

YounghillKang

Popping in briefly to say that the man with the swastika tattoo in your Rochdale Herald link was photographed in August 2017 in Charlotte NC, USA - described as 'a pepper spray victim' - identical photograph with C-VILLE Weekly.

Discussed on the Rochdale Herald Twitter feed if you want to check for yourself.

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Clavinova · 15/06/2020 21:11

Back again.
Just clicked on the home page for the Rochdale Herald - it's a spoof newspaper!

rochdaleherald.co.uk/

user1471565182 · 16/06/2020 03:22

In really deep research then. I wonder why?

YounghillKang · 16/06/2020 04:32

Thanks serves me right for cutting and pasting while zooming!

But still think that might be the image the poster was thinking of...hence posting other definite images, but the guy with the swastika discussed on Andrew Marr Show on Sunday,

AlwaysCheddar · 16/06/2020 05:54

Coco pops packaging now under attack. This is getting stupid... absolutely stupid.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 16/06/2020 06:19

Coco pops packaging now under attack. This is getting stupid... absolutely stupid.

Source?

AlwaysCheddar · 16/06/2020 06:27

Labour MP Fiona Onasanya has written to Kellogg's asking why they chose that animal to represent the chocolate-flavoured cereal when Rice Krispies uses 'three white boys'. In the news.

AlwaysCheddar · 16/06/2020 06:30

And her twitter account.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 16/06/2020 06:31

Ex Labour MP or more accurately should be phrased a member of the public, and the only source I could find on google was the Heil so likely to be full on bollocks to try to further discredit the BLM movement to its idiotic readers

AlwaysCheddar · 16/06/2020 06:34

@KelloggsUK, as you are yet to reply to my email - Coco Pops and Rice Krispies have the same compòsition (except for the fact CP's are brown and chocolate flavoured)... so I was wondering why Rice Krispies have three white boys representing the brand and Coco Pops have a monkey?

From her twitter account.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 16/06/2020 06:44

Shes just a member of the public and some members of the public believe batshit things.... meh shrug

Clavinova · 16/06/2020 09:18

user1471565182
In really deep research then. I wonder why?

I can bore you with the details if you like -

Less than 10 minutes 'research' between 6.30 pm and the rest of the evening. I checked because I realised that I hadn't actually heard anything about a man with a swastika tattoo. When I skip read the article in the Rochdale Herald (YounghillKang's link) earlier in the thread it didn't really make sense to me - the quotation appeared to be from Churchill himself (it was - it was meant to be a parody - Churchill's statue speaking I suppose). If I had spent more than 90 seconds on the Herald's Twitter feed I would have realised sooner that the paper was a spoof. I looked at the paper's home page because I was bored - dh was taking too long and I was waiting to watch 'The Salisbury Poisonings' drama with him. Is that a sufficient explanation?

Peregrina · 16/06/2020 09:46

The Bristolians have taken it into their own hands in deciding who to commemorate.

Clavinova · 16/06/2020 09:47

YounghillKang
the guy with the swastika discussed on Andrew Marr Show on Sunday

I have just watched your link - Andrew Marr does indeed refer to a man seen with a swastika tattoo but please show me his photograph - there is a good reason why other newspapers have not shown the same photograph as the spoof newspaper - the photograph was taken in the US in 2017.

Also in your link, the Sun columnist refers to 'far-right' thugs - the camera then pans to the page of a newspaper with the headline; "far-Right thugs to blame" - they might be to blame but the photographs we see on screen show two men who have been beaten up and hospitalised by BLM activists!! The man with blood covering his face is surrounded by 'rogue' BLM supporters wearing balaclavas and the man being carried to safety by the black 'hero' has been rescued from a kicking (or worse) by BLM supporters!

GetOffYourHighHorse · 16/06/2020 09:53

'The Bristolians have taken it into their own hands in deciding who to commemorate.'

Isn't that offensive to white people who aren't far right or doesn't that matter?!

The mayor should have 'taken it into his own hands' and got rid of colston ages ago. Why aren't people questioning their crap ineffectual council.

Xenia · 16/06/2020 09:57

The ex Labour MP was struck off as a solicitor due to her criminal conviction. I don't think coco pops and rice crispies are particularly racist although both those foods are terrible for your health and if you are of an ethnic minority where obesity, diabetes or anything else makes you more likely to die of CV19 the last thing you want to eat is junk cereal. Instead stick with whole good foods. It is foods like those breakfast cereals which are killing the NHS as much as anything else.

Clavinova · 16/06/2020 09:58

I did come across this article in the Bristol Post from October 2017 -

"Police guard Colston Society annual church service held on Anti-Slavery Day."

"Five officers and PCSOs turned out to stop disruption of schoolchildren's event - but only two protesters turned up."

"The two protesters accused the school and church leaders of ‘brainwashing’ the children with the message that Edward Colston was a generous benefactor to the city of Bristol."

www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/police-guard-colston-society-annual-648611

Peregrina · 16/06/2020 09:58

I made no comment as to whether it was good or bad.

A lot of countries celebrate carnivals or other festive days with caricatures, and to me this is in the same tradition.

Peregrina · 16/06/2020 10:04

I think as a piece of art it's fine. It could profitably go into a museum along with the rescued statue of Colston, and help to tell the story.
Cromwell wanted to be painted 'Warts and all', and I can't see why history can't be told in such fashion.

I thought of Banksy - isn't he a Bristolian? His work is now celebrated.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 16/06/2020 10:07

'lot of countries celebrate carnivals or other festive days with caricatures, and to me this is in the same tradition.'

Course it is.

If there was a 'caricature' of ethnic minorities there would rightly be outrage because it would be grossly offensive.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 16/06/2020 10:13

'think as a piece of art it's fine.'

Yes a lovely 'piece of art'.

Is it really helpful in these troubled times to have this goady inflammatory shit?! Colstons gone so let's have more offensive artefacts. It's totally hypocritical.

Peregrina · 16/06/2020 10:14

There have been plenty of caricatures of ethic minorities. Despite the outrage, it still happens.

We have a Prime Minister who talked of piccaninnies with watermelon smiles and bananas get thrown at black football players.

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