WTAF - Far right protests

[Poppi89]

I have just heard on the radio that far-right protesters will be out tomorrow in response to the BLM protesters. People are being urged not to be out in support of BLM tomorrow due to the aggressive nature of the far-right group and BLM protests are being cancelled because of them.

I am outraged by this. The BLM protesters are asking for people to not be killed due to the colour of their skin. They have rightly or wrongly made a decision to put themselves at risk of COVID-19 to help spread this message - a lot of people have called them idiots etc for doing this.

The far-right protests are now also protesting in large groups (but not in response to a murder) and are 'known' for being aggressive. How is this acceptable?

I would like to hear from anyone who is planning to join/agree with these far-right protests and their reasons why?

www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/53040005 - BBC reporting Nazi salutes.

voxpoliticalonline.com/2020/06/13/violence-in-london-as-nazis-march-in-support-of-churchill-the-reasons-may-shock-you/

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/football-hooligans-join-far-right-thugs-to-attack-police-over-black-lives-matter-demo-hbx6qkk0v - the times discussing Nazi salutes

Really strange how this has been reported by numerous right and left wing outlets, and yet couldn't possibly have happened. Is this the same denial that racism doesn't occur in the UK, because no one apart from The major In Fawlty Towers And rappers use the N word, and the major was just joking, so all ok.

Has anyone got a pic of the nutter with a swastika tattooed on his chest? He was out for a shirtless gentle memorial- protecting stroll on Saturday. I expect he just liked the pattern.

Yes it's here

rochdaleherald.co.uk/2020/06/13/if-it-wasnt-for-churchill-youd-be-speaking-german-says-man-performing-nazi-salute-in-whitehall/?PageSpeed=noscript&amp&__twitter_impression=true

See also:

‘monkey’ gestures
twitter.com/R9Ighalo/status/1271902697990623233

Discussion about pouring petrol on black people
twitter.com/mi6rogue/status/1271819843298299905

Britain First – far-right see for example en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain_First

Britain First contingent in London on protest
twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1271834225336094720/photo/1

twitter.com/luckyma_man/status/1271896039818178560/photo/1

'again why are you so bothered to disprove an eye witness? Why is it so important to you?'

Well, because there has been lies on both sides.. I need proof before I judge people and with sm we usually have it.

I'll happily say yes they are doing Nazi salutes if anyone actually shows me pictures of it.

Smile I'll ask again why haven't those defacing the cenotaph been arrested?

BBC reporting Nazi salutes.

"Some far-right protestors were also seen doing Nazi salutes and shouting racist chants."

Seen by whom? Which photo?

the times discussing Nazi salutes

Which photo?

Vox - same blurred still photo from Smilethoyourheartisbreaking's video link.

And let's not forget when looking at images of the Britain First supporters that this is the group that inspired the man who murdered Jo Cox, and whose name he called out while doing so...

*Thomas Mair repeatedly shot and stabbed Cox in an attack during the EU referendum campaign in June. While attacking her he was saying: “This is for Britain”, “keep Britain independent”, and “Britain first”

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/nov/23/thomas-mair-found-guilty-of-jo-cox-murder

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/16/britain-first-the-far-right-group-with-a-massive-facebook-follow/

'no it's worse than denying racism exists systemically in the UK. Its apologisim for Nazi salutes'

Of course it exists and who is apologising for Nazi salutes? The far right are as bad as any radical extremists.

The police need to treat thugs on all sides the same.

Wtf? You're arguing about technique? Fascist scum are fascist scum whether or not they're saluting in an appropriately Nazi manner. We know what they are. Whether fingers are curled or hand in a fist, you'll find a fascist on the other end of it. I haven't got pictures of Kristallnacht. It happened.

'I'm not a copper. I'm sure your well defined skills in spotting the truth will help them out. Why not volunteer?'

Hmm. Ok then, in your opinion should the Cenotaph defacers have been sent to prison like the man urinating on the plaque?

'You're arguing about technique? Fascist scum are fascist scum whether or not they're saluting in an appropriately Nazi manner. We know what they are. Whether fingers are curled or hand in a fist, you'll find a fascist on the other end of it'

Oh so a hand in the air, a hand in a fist is now a Nazi salute? Jesus.

Personally wouldn't bother engaging with people like GetOff let's face it they're either a wind-up merchant, a fascist or just plain stupid...none of which worth bothering with...

www.sbs.com.au/news/far-right-protesters-in-london-do-nazi-salutes-as-they-defend-war-memorial
From another angle, unless they were just all pretending to be superman at the same time?

Yes there are clearly some on here who need to bugger off to the other ' i'm not racist but mumsnet won't allow me to be racist forum'

Yep lots of right-wing posters recently. Can't work out if it's a concerted effort and being encouraged to join and discredit BLM or whether they've come over from Reddit....groups have targeted the site in the past...but they rarely have a coherent argument and they don't come up with evidence to support their claims...maybe they're feeling a little threatened?! After all Tommy Robinson bottled it and didn't go to London.

From another angle, unless they were just all pretending to be superman at the same time?

The man in the bottom left (green t-shirt) has both of his arms in the air, so does the man in the middle with the blue and white stripped t-shirt, and the man to his left in the black t-shirt, and so does the man in the green jacket and the black cap - to the right.

The man in the middle at the front, with dark sleeves and brown arms also has both of his arms in the air.

Right, so because some far right idiots are too stupid to know how to do a Nazi salute, the rest were just waving in unison ? ...If almost every newspaper Journalist around the world, right and left, including the Telegraph and the Daily Mail all look at the same images and state that the people in them are preforming Nazi salutes, why are you denying it?

@YounghillKang

Yep lots of right-wing posters recently. Can't work out if it's a concerted effort and being encouraged to join and discredit BLM or whether they've come over from Reddit....groups have targeted the site in the past...but they rarely have a coherent argument and they don't come up with evidence to support their claims...maybe they're feeling a little threatened?! After all Tommy Robinson bottled it and didn't go to London.

Probably posting on their other thread now now ' help me win the argument that far right are not scum'

Okay, thank you for those links. I wasn’t justifying anyone, I always said the racist thugs were beneath contempt. I was just unsure about that specific accusation because the BBC News has never even mentioned Nazi salutes, which I found puzzling, because they have been very thorough on the whole.

But yes, thank you. Absolutely disgusting and it shows them up as completely thick, as Churchill was at war with the Nazis.