WTAF - Far right protests

[Poppi89]

I have just heard on the radio that far-right protesters will be out tomorrow in response to the BLM protesters. People are being urged not to be out in support of BLM tomorrow due to the aggressive nature of the far-right group and BLM protests are being cancelled because of them.

I am outraged by this. The BLM protesters are asking for people to not be killed due to the colour of their skin. They have rightly or wrongly made a decision to put themselves at risk of COVID-19 to help spread this message - a lot of people have called them idiots etc for doing this.

The far-right protests are now also protesting in large groups (but not in response to a murder) and are 'known' for being aggressive. How is this acceptable?

I would like to hear from anyone who is planning to join/agree with these far-right protests and their reasons why?

No we wouldnt, the germans wouldnt have got post the royal navy. He pissed around sending men to die in stupid missions. He sent territorials to fight in Norway, some of them didnt know how to fire a gun, they marched off the boat and straight into german captivity without firing a shot. 80% of German divisions were defeated on the eastern front.

*To be honest, I just wish that everyone would fucking stop gathering in large groups when we still haven’t managed to managed to contain the deadly pandemic. Police have better things to be doing, but instead they’ll be occupied trying to contain a handful of meatheads in central London.
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Unfortunately I agree. I would much rather it wasn't the case and that the BLM groups could continue protesting about the injustices they've been through and about the appalling murder of George Floyd.

But there is a pandemic right now, which is disproportionately impacting on BAME people. There needs to be some common sense here.

The left are destroying themselves again with their hatred of this country. These despicable actions sets the seeds for their election defeats with patriotic Brits

Why do "patriotic Brits" despise standing up for the rights of, and equal treatment for, Black Britons? And how is it "showing hatred for their country"?

Or do you perhaps mean "racist" when you say "patriotic"?

After all, I'm sure that arch-leftie Tony Benn wasn't being patriotic at all when he served as an RAF pilot in WW2. He wasn't old enough to be called up at the start, and he was so un-patriotic that he joined the Home Guard as soon as he was old enough to do so, but before he was old enough for active service.

BLM crossed a line and damaged their cause in the process. They crossed the line when they broke the law.

So why are these "patriots" swearing and threatening and assaulting the police, throwing bottles etc at them, hostility to journalists, and why are they still there, chanting and pointing aggressively? Right to protest, yes but what are they actually protesting about?

I'm curious to find out what some of you think BLM is ? In the UK today?

’The leaders of BLM want his statue dragged down and humiliated, along with the Cenotaph.’

Bullshit. Utter, utter bullshit.

@Iamagree

So why are these "patriots" swearing and threatening and assaulting the police, throwing bottles etc at them, hostility to journalists, and why are they still there, chanting and pointing aggressively? Right to protest, yes but what are they actually protesting about?

1) They're angry at the police for letting the anarchists get at the Cenotaph and Churchill statue last week (and thus antagonised by a much more forceful police presence today).

2. Many of them are pissed up and up for trouble and given BLM called their protests off, they've only got the police to have a go at.

'So why are these "patriots" swearing and threatening and assaulting the police, throwing bottles etc at them, hostility to journalists, and why are they still there, chanting and pointing aggressively? '

Ah that's the minority just like last week. You get them at every protect.

The majority peacefully object to the defacement of war monuments.

The ex servicemen have left.

If there's one thing that unites this country it's pride over defeating Nazi Germany and Hitler.

Correction, it's pride over defeating Nazi ideology and the white supremacy that it promoted. The same white supremacy that the Far Right Zieg Heilers currently fighting the police today promote.

Those brave defenders of statues are 21st century, English nazis.

The people currently hanging around statues have much more in common with the Blackshirts than those who fought to defeat Hitler.

Ain’t that the truth.

Though I have to say sartorial standards in the fascist community seem to have fallen drastically since Mosley’s time.

So many people seem determined to defend ‘their side’ whilst pointing out the faults in the other
Two things can be simultaneously true. Legitimate BLM protests were derailed by thugs determined to kick a hornet’s nest. Legitimate protests against the vandalism of memorials including the Cenotaph have been derailed by thugs determined to kick another hornet’s nest

Beautifully put

I only hope it's true that the veterans and the many decent folk protesting on behalf of black people have left

So many people seem determined to defend ‘their side’ whilst pointing out the faults in the other
Two things can be simultaneously true. Legitimate BLM protests were derailed by thugs determined to kick a hornet’s nest. Legitimate protests against the vandalism of memorials including the Cenotaph have been derailed by thugs determined to kick another hornet’s nest

The biggest fault is nobody should be out protesting during a pandemic. There should never have been mass gatherings in the first place.

All I can think of when I see this violence in the news is how pathetic and stupid these far-right people are. This is not a protest, it is just a drunken brawl. Apparently they are squaring up to the police and making Nazi salutes by a Winston Churchill statue. 🤔 I'm baffled as to what their thought process is. It's clear they just want to get drunk, talk bollocks, swing their cock around a bit and get hosed down. It's just macho posturing, there isn't really any substance to what they are trying to prove.

The biggest fault is nobody should be out protesting during a pandemic. There should never have been mass gatherings in the first place.

^This. I suspect a lot of the protesters today would ordinarily have been at a football match hurling insults at the opposing team and their supporters (and some would have caused trouble after the match).

'The biggest fault is nobody should be out protesting during a pandemic. There should never have been mass gatherings in the first place.'

Exactly.

The thugs on both sides are as bad as each other. The police shouldn't be targeted either by BLM or by those angered by the attacks on the cenotaph. I saw a thicko say veterans are all in their 90s so wouldn't be there, do people seriously think the only servicemen furious by the defacement of monuments are those who fought in ww2?! .

The biggest fault is nobody should be out protesting during a pandemic. There should never have been mass gatherings in the first place

I agree with that too, but unfortunately despite the guidance people have turned up, and all such protests attract some who are simply looking for trouble

The police can deal with isolated incidents if they choose to, but I'm not hard to imagine what could have happened if they'd demanded that an entire crowd leave

Just put this on TV. I see the statue-protecting thugs are being referred to as 'counter-protesters' rather than the fascist nazi-supporting scum that they are. Interesting. Wonder how that choice of words evolved.

@MadameMarie

A lot of pent up male aggression after 3 months coming out.

If the police had been allowed to police last weekend it could have been avoided.

I’ve come across some ridiculous things on my time on mumsnet, but this genuinely made me laugh out loud. If the police had shut down a legitimate protest organised by Black Lives Matter last weekend, the poor angry white menz wouldn’t have used this weekend as an excuse to run riot??

Utterly ridiculous.

The protests I saw from last weekend were 99% peaceful. Lots of singing, lots of dancing, many masks and attempts to keep social distancing. I ALSO read, from many different sources, about the kettling techniques that the police used.

Well considering the BLM protestors who pulled down statues/graffitied and tried to burn the flag where just protestors rather than criminals committing crimes it seems perfectly fine to me.