To feel like we are just existing now

[Ghostlyglow]

In a miserable, joyless world of queues and masks. A couple of friends have lost their jobs this week. Where are we going with this?When will it end?

Titsy woo...
I agree with you and the well said comment was for your comment not @homemsdefromscratch!

taliya I feel more sorry for the people that are unaffected by the crisis and lockdown, it says a lot about their poor quality of life than anything else.
If you have nothing to miss then that really is sad! There are many posts on here who say their life is largely the same, they are the saddest posts for me. At least the depressed ones will get a life back at some point, the ones missing very little won't

Hi,
Could we stop evaluating peoples worthiness to feel down or depressed. It’s ok to feel down in this situation, whatever your experience and circumstances were. 💕

Pigeon999...that's mighty presumptuous of you to say that. Just because someone is saying they have a more positive outlook on life, are more resilient (due to previous life experiences) and are not moaning about their situation doesn't mean they led a more boring or depressing life before lockdown! It means they have more resilience and try to make the best of it and are grateful for the small things in life. I've lived and worked abroad and travelled extensively so maybe that has given me a more positive outlook on life.

I am in Scotland. The "extra" things which were closed in march and are now open let me think......

B&Q
Drive through McDonalds/Starbucks/KFC etc
Gatden centres
Golf Clubs

Bugger off with your whole "we're almost back to normal".

I consider myself to have high levels of resilience and although I have my down days like everyone I don’t have depression. However, lockdown has affected my mental health horribly. Both DP and I are WFH (I am teaching and can truly say I have never worked so hard in my life) and we have a 6 yo DD who until she returned to school we were trying to home Ed whilst Meet our own work commitments.

The stress of that was bad enough but the lack of social contact with people whom I care about is getting to me now. It is Groundhog Day, everything seems grey with nothing to look forward to.

I do wonder if the cure is going to be worse that the disease.

taliya It is interesting that you thought I was talking about you! I was actually making a general point that if you have a full and rich life you are going to feel sad that it is not there anymore (in the short to medium term at least) and miss those things dreadfully whether it is family/theatre/hobbies etc. It is pretty obvious.
People should be able to express their feelings if they want to, this not a thread for those enjoying lockdown is it!!

I've lived and worked abroad and travelled extensively so maybe that has given me a more positive outlook on life.

I’ve said it on these threads before, but it’s extraordinary how quickly the ‘be kind’ message following Caroline Flack’s death has turned into ‘shut up and stop complaining, snowflake’. Do people really not understand why lockdown might have negatively affected others’ mental health?

@JFM27

Moondust001.We didnt all vote for Johnson and his crap governnent did we.Thats what makes me so angry Why were people so insane to vote for such a load of useless people who couldnt run a p...up in a brewery.All they ever cared about was getting a no deal Brexit,nothing else,even now after this crisis they wont put it off,Its all they care about.

Our country is being sold down the river by a load of people making a fortune out of virus and Brexit, but it could have been different but no a load of xenophobic,insular LittleEnglanders decided differently and voted for Brexit, and then these idiots.

It makes me angry too. And sad that there are now members of my own family I can't even speak to now, as when they spout crap about what a brilliant job Boris has done etc., my anger bubbles over. How on earth can people justify having voted this lot in, only 6 months ago, when it was clear what their agenda was? I know we couldn't have predicted this awful Pandemic, but for goodness sakes, it has been totally mis-managed from the beginning, and it continues, on and on...cock-up after cock-up. When I see Hancock on the Daily Briefings (which I watch about twice a week now, any more is too much), I just want to scream!

I voted labour but I’m really not convinced Jezza would have been any better.

pigeon999*
I'm really surprised by homemade list!! I had to reread it three times, as it is basically a list of everything that is closed not open!!*

my point was merely that was is not opening just yet is either opening from tomorrow, allowed to opened and working on it, scheduled to open within the next couple of weeks, or scheduled to open early July at the latest.

My point was that we are so nearly back to normal, there really is not any need to dramatise everything like so many on MN insisted on:

We were never on a lockdown and house arrest
We were never restricted to once a week shopping
We were never only allowed that stupid "1 hour walk" so many on MN loved to bang on about.
Online shopping was busier than ever, deliveries working fine.
Schools were opened for frontline workers and vulnerable children, then many followed by opening to key workers. They are reopening now, and it's at their discretion how.
McDonald might have shut, but all the other local real restaurants here stayed opened. You can now here go and sit down in a cafe for drinks and food! They are OPENED.
Golf clubs and all outdoor exercise facilities are extremely busy right now.

Apart from hotels, and some swimming pools, I can't think of many places still due to be closed in a couple of weeks at the latest here. I am South East.

If your local school choses to stay shut, it's not a national directive.

this not a thread for those enjoying lockdown is it!!
It's perfectly possible to hate the lockdown, be pissed off about all the parties/holidays/trips and life in general cancelled but still be realistic about the actual situation.

Not even 3 little months and things are (more or less slowly) getting back to normal. It helps to focus on what you can do, and use your time efficiently for once you are stuck at home with the kids and work, than waste it completely in despair, look back at the end and realise you've achieved nothing. How sad and a waste of life.

I’ve just been looking at the figures and there’s been around 400 deaths in England in people under the age of 65.

@Homemadeandfromscratch wherever you are in South East is clearly a different world to West Yorkshire, where I am. What are these "real restaurants" you are talking about?

No ‘real restaurants’ open for sit-down meals in my area of London.

I've just seen that my last post was number 666! Now that has cheered me up (little things...).

In Scotland so we are behind the times !
Agree we are nowhere near any kind of normal.

Very worried about the DC,not just mine,and the recession.

However I try and be positive,and see the things we now can do as a first step,with hopefully more to come

And I do think we will get back to normal (and I mean normal normal ,not fecking new normal

Probably helped by the fact my DH and I both play golf !

Yes, I call it living a half life. I can’t get positive about living in a country (the U.K) which is, to put it bluntly, fucked.

We are choosing to kill people who die from domestic violence, cancer, heart attack, stroke, dementia, dehydration, hunger, despair so that we can protect the people vulnerable to this quite bad cold*

I couldn't get medical treatment for a stomach infection i ended up with malnourishment and pneumonia bedbound for 6 weeks and losing enough weight that my section scar splitting is still a worry now.

Eventually got antibiotics only because I have a mental health worker who intervened and recovered mostly but I did at one point when the GP's refused to see me to sound my chest or offer treatment think shit this is it.

I'm 31 no underlying health conditions. I'm shielding now as I've dropped that much weight and my chest is that knackered still I'm pretty sure covid could easily finish me off.

@Homemadeandfromscratch talk about kicking people when they're down. You've made it clear that you have no understanding or compassion for other peoples' mental health.

My MH is pretty robust. Always has been.
But I’m still pretty pissed off by some things.
Family member died - couldn’t go to her funeral.
Friend just died - can’t go to her funeral.
My industry completely ground to a halt, and business under threat (trying to save my staff’s jobs if I possibly can).
My husband has had to put his staff on 4 days and they never stop calling to complain (they’re scared of course). It’s endless.
We have taken in foster children (their mother is ill). And no, the school was NOT open for them.

So please do tell me which bits of the above are just silly inconvenience

@Lovebeingmama you expressed my feeling much better than I did!

In the NHS my colleagues and I are tired. I've only felt down these last couple of weeks, I said I was probably going through what others did weeks before and I sympathise with anyone who cant get out of the house. It s the wrong word but I "enjoyed" working in the early part, was doing my bit we concentrated on covid pts and dealt with what came our way. Dealing with this is a learning curve that everyone will go through.

I agree that we've barely scratched the surface on what the impact on mental health as well as the wider impact on society is.

@Taliya and @Homadfromscratch Yes some people in the world have things pretty tough right now and "worse" than being asked to stay at home BUT that doesn't mean others who are struggling should just pull themselves together, it isnt helpful to tell them that.

In most mental health discussions it's considered a good thing to share feelings and talk. Those pp that have said they've met a friend and feel.better for that interaction illustrate how as humans most of us need the physical and emotional contact of other people.

It's nothing to do with people not wanting to spend time doing things with their children

And, our children dont always want to be doing stuff with us anyway!

They want to go to their clubs, sports and other places where they can be with their own friends away from their parents.

No matter how many times I take DS out for a bike ride or play a game with him, its is NOT the same for him as doing it with his friends.