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To feel like we are just existing now

792 replies

Ghostlyglow · 12/06/2020 07:58

In a miserable, joyless world of queues and masks. A couple of friends have lost their jobs this week. Where are we going with this?When will it end?

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ShebaShimmyShake · 12/06/2020 12:29

Meanwhile, in real life land, every single parent I have spoken to is struggling. Don't let someone on Mumsnet, land of penis beakers and Sistine Chapel streamers, be any guide as to how things really are. If your kids haven't had to adapt to anything or found things harder since their schools, activities and playdates shut down for months, that's a sign you weren't doing particularly stellar parenting before. At least, it would be if it were true, which it patently isn't.

Endless11 · 12/06/2020 12:31

You know what, my MH has really sunk this week. I felt normal/indifferent up until this point but now I just feel so down??

That’s how I felt last week - much less communication with friends also doesn’t help.

I feel slightly better this week in that I think I have accepted that the honeymoon period of us all being in this together and getting through it that way is kind of over now. I also had a job interview two days ago and really hope I get it. If I do get it it will involve going in to work and socially distancing there but it would be lovely (and necessary).

I am a single parent and live with my three teens - two were going to sit GCSEs and A Levels and are now in suspended animation doing very little. The youngest is in Year 9 and was doing well with her online school work but has given up over the past two weeks. We live this weird topsy turvy life where no one really knows what day or time it is any more.

I do blame the government for everything - the horrible number of deaths and our protracted lockdown due to their inability to deal with this properly from the beginning. I agree with the poster who said it might be easier to contemplate the future if they hadn’t been so incompetent at every single turn. Which they continue to be. That feels very lonely.

I sometimes wonder if all this has been and is a bad dream and then realise it isn’t Confused.

Teateaandmoretea · 12/06/2020 12:31

@Homemadeandfromscratch

Your posts come from a place of privilege.

Mascotte · 12/06/2020 12:32

@derxa I agree and think people are getting fed up with Nicola and the SNP approach now.

Homemadeandfromscratch · 12/06/2020 12:32

Parent are NOT bored with their children. Parents are WORKING!!! They therefore do not have time to school them in the way the children deserve. If you are not working then it is probably different. But I am working full days in meetings. How can I possibly school my kids (let alone be bored with them!!!!!!)

funny how people who shout the loudest at how BUZY they are find so much time to waste on MN and social media...

Many of us are working, and full time. Very few of us are working 7 days a week 12 hours a day and genuinely struggle to find a few hours free.

Your kids education won't suffer because you can't stick to a 9 to 2 homeschooling routine but have implemented another one based around your work.

People like drama, dementors are out in force. It's sad for the kids. Misery really is not necessary unless you enjoy feeling like a martyr in a dystopian world.

ShebaShimmyShake · 12/06/2020 12:32

[quote Teateaandmoretea]@Homemadeandfromscratch

Your posts come from a place of privilege.[/quote]
Don't encourage him.

Homemadeandfromscratch · 12/06/2020 12:34

Teateaandmoretea
Your posts come from a place of privilege.

Indeed, I have a full time job, I have internet access (and therefore so have my kids), I have time to waste on social media.

So pretty much the same privilege as half the posters, whilst the ones who cannot work have the time I havent'...

Alex50 · 12/06/2020 12:35

You do know when the economy tanks, everyone will be effected. Pensions will be cut, there will be mass homelessness, teenagers not going to school will not stay at home, gangs of young adults hanging around with nothing to do is a recipe for disaster. I don’t know how all the people suggesting we just stay like this until there’s a vaccine can’t see what this country will turn into if we do?

Homemadeandfromscratch · 12/06/2020 12:42

well quite, that's why some of us would have much prefer a stricter but SHORTER lockdown, we could be nearly done by now.

Sunnydays123456 · 12/06/2020 12:42

What the fuck are the gov doing ??? Just get schools open and try to slaVge this total utter balls-up

Is this like some fkn weird mass experiment ?

And no , existing is not better than dying ffs

YellowHats · 12/06/2020 12:42

Look lockdown is shit, ive hated pretty much every second but i feel people on this thread are being a bit dramatic.

Yes theres nothing to look forward to at the minute, but this was always the case. Lockdown was always going to be miserable. But its realistically only a short period of your life. Theres lots of things that can happen in your life that can result in a 'just existing not living' situation and realisitcally youve just got to get through them

Life will get back to normal, or relative normal. It was 2 months we couldnt see family. Now we can see groups of 6 - so bbqs/picnics whatever. We can spend all day outside - go to the beach/swim in the sea/climb a mountain. Zoos/shops are opening again. Life is starting to reopen.

If we come out of lockdown slowly then we can monitor what actions affect the r rate - so if opening shops has no affect great, we dont need to lockdown shops again. If we open everything at once and our infections sky rocket then we need to lockdown everything again. We cannot compare ourselves to countries that controlled the virus much more sucessfully

Uk had a relatively light lockdown compared to a lot of countries. As a result we had a lot more infections and deaths, and therefore take longer to come out of it.

There are scary consequences of lockdown, such as the affect on the economy. But then again I think there are scary consequences of not locking down. I think we made the best decision with the information we had at the time. I think its a bit ridiculous to over dramaticise it, and talk about how future generations will look back in horror. They wont. We had a pandemic and we dealt with it best we could

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 12/06/2020 12:43

It’s all nonsense.

Lobsterquadrille2 · 12/06/2020 12:43

Mine probably isn't as bad as some of the above. I'm ok and working, live with DD and she's working too. But my mother, nearly 90, has changed markedly over the last three months. I see her in her garden every weekend at a distance. Previously active and sociable, walked into town daily and met friends and did art classes. Yes, she does classes on line and has built a rockery but she's terribly lonely (my father died two years ago) and also so apprehensive about seeing people again that I've just cancelled her August 90th birthday party (on her instruction). It's a first world problem, I know, but I don't think she'll ever be herself again. And she says that this is worse than WW2 - ok, she was only 15 when it ended so more of a child's perspective.

soruff · 12/06/2020 12:44

My latest time waster is writing Porn versions of scenes in a Georgette Heyer story. Maybe we could start a competition blog and see whose is the best or the worst!
This is as a break from my work. DH and I are up to date with reports, taxing car, booking it for a service etc. No outstanding deadlines. No more work for us until Monday pm.
Boringggggggggg!

YellowHats · 12/06/2020 12:44

@Sunnydays123456 well existing for a short period is better than dying yes

Just existing for the rest of your life, maybe not. But its a short period in your life

itisusuallytodowithsausages · 12/06/2020 12:44

We are in a different country at the moment and things where we are are happy and almost normal - lots of facemasks (which I totally support to try to prevent second wave) but most children back to school, lots of people back at work, lots of things near normal, upbeat.

I get really angry when I think about the UK. One thing which has happened over the past few months is a lot of comparisons between how different countries dealt with c19 and as an extension of that how their governments function generally and the relationships between people and governments, how much confidence and trust there is. The UK has not come off well I don't think, and I really think that people should be using this time to think about what can be done about the government - about what people want from an opposition - a list of the policies which people want and how to implement them. Maybe someone should start a new AIBU about this.

In many countries with firm lock down the numbers went up then came down and are mostly staying down other than pockets. In the UK the numbers went high but they have also come down - a lot - and that is something to be happy about - but they have also sort of plateaued a lot and they aren't as low now as they should be.

Annamaria14 · 12/06/2020 12:47

Some one said that the UK is behind other countries in Europe.

Ireland is the same as the UK. All restaurants and coffee shops are still closed, and will be until the end of June.

I live with a make flatmate, both of us are at home all the time and in this lockdown he has been very needy and wants me to talk to him ALL the time. I had a little cry today as I walked outside and I felt the absolute sense of being trapped. There is no where to go in and sit down. Coffee shops- restaurants - libraries still all closed. There are coffee shops that are doing takeaway coffees only, but the weather is raining and windy, so I can't even ait outside with my coffee.

I have no where to go. I hate the feeling of being totally and utterly trapped. Things will not open until the end of june

threesmallcows · 12/06/2020 12:48

It baffles my mind how someone can think that 'existing' is better than death.

I don't want to endure and existence-I want to enjoy a life!

The scary thing is this may be the good stage of all this madness. What's coming next? Mass hunger?

threesmallcows · 12/06/2020 12:48

*endure AN existence

notalwaysalondoner · 12/06/2020 12:49

I’ve actually personally had a good lockdown - got to spend the time with my parents, sister and grandmother as we all moved in together, not having to commute, no face time at the office etc. But I just CANNOT understand the justification for its continuation. It was supposed to be to let the NHS prepare to avoid it being overwhelmed. Then suddenly it shifted into protecting people from Covid at all costs, even if that means delaying cancer treatment, destroying the economy, destroying people’s mental health, and disrupting the education of an entire generation. I just don’t think the small risk which is almost entirely to people over 65 is worth this destruction. I’m very angry and can’t believe there aren’t more protests about this. I feel like governments all vowed to pressure to copy each other regardless of risk or impact or efficacy of lockdown, and are then doggedly sticking to their guns to save face.

DisobedientHamster · 12/06/2020 12:49

YANBU. This is fucking ridiculous!

hamstersarse · 12/06/2020 12:49

I have increasing rage about the state we are all in.

There were 157 deaths yesterday.

For the lockdown and restrictions that are in place where people are not able to make a living or receive an education to be lawful they must be 'proportionate and based on evidence'

There is no way these restrictions are either 'proportionate' or 'based on evidence'

Alex50 · 12/06/2020 12:50

I will come back to these threads in 6 months time, it will be interesting to see how many will still think waiting until there’s a vaccine before returning to normal was a good idea.

Isthisfinallyit · 12/06/2020 12:50

I'm not in the UK but do feel like just existing. Every time I feel mentally bored I remind myself that I have it much easier than my grandparents who only just survived years of WW2 concentration camps with their kids. At least I don't have that level of stress which I'm thankful for.

threesmallcows · 12/06/2020 12:51

And I'm sick of the commercials showing cosy, productive, creative all singin' and dancin' families. It's all fake!

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