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To feel like we are just existing now

792 replies

Ghostlyglow · 12/06/2020 07:58

In a miserable, joyless world of queues and masks. A couple of friends have lost their jobs this week. Where are we going with this?When will it end?

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Annamaria14 · 12/06/2020 12:51

I can't wait to be free. Sitting at home all day for four months is not normal

I hate the government

Annamaria14 · 12/06/2020 12:53

It is the sheer feelig of not being able to go anywhere. No where is open, that I could go in and sit down in - and the weather is so bad here in Ireland that I can't even walk outside.

I am totally trapped

Sugarplumfairy65 · 12/06/2020 12:56

I think they should lift the lockdown and anyone who’s elderly or shielding should stay at home. Honestly what is the point in the whole country suffering to protect a tiny number of people who wouldn’t have died in the next few months anyway.

I'm in the shielding group. I'm not going to die in the next few months or even years unless I catch covid, then there's a very good chance that I will. Is my life worth less than yours?
Before lockdown I ran my own business, was very sociable, enjoyed eating out, visiting family, traveling all over the world. Yesterday was the first time I left the house for 83 days. I had to go for my blood tests.
I've lost my business and income, haven't seen my family for months, have stuck to the rules. But my life doesn't matter?
I'm sick of people saying that those who are vulnerable should just stay at home. I'm sick of the government saying that those shielding are being looked after. They aren't, its bullshit. I still haven't got guaranteed supermarket deliveries, I had 4 government crappy food boxes. No 80% of my self employed income because the years they took into account I earned more through page than I did self employment, No grant because I don't pay business rates, I can't get the guaranteed business loan because I can't re open my business while I'm shielding and no one knows how long I have to shield.
But you know what? That's life. I'm not depressed, I'm happy to be alive, I know I'll see my children again, I know life will get back to a new normal. I can live with the current situation because I know its not permanent.

YounghillKang · 12/06/2020 12:57

Only one thing matters now, and is not living a good life. It is avoiding a virus that more than half the people who get it don't even realise.

I think the people who ‘recovered’ but ended up with major health issues might notice! The 32-year-old, previously healthy, sent home clear of Coronavirus but reliant on oxygen to get through the day…

There were 157 deaths yesterday.

Yes and that's a positive sign...

"But the focus on deaths from a second wave may miss the real toll of the virus: the long-term damage it can cause to the lungs, heart, kidneys, brain and even blood vessels among those who recover."

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/11/pandemic-scientists-second-wave-coronavirus

I do wonder though...those complaining and opining...how did you vote last December?

Because if you voted tory you voted for more of the same...defunding the nhs and education.

And how many voted for Brexit? No deal is looking increasingly likely and that will shrink the economy even further as well as cause food shortages and price rises? Although on the bright side might be lucky and be able to supplement with some good old, American chlorinated chicken!!

Rainbow12e · 12/06/2020 12:58

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Sugarplumfairy65 · 12/06/2020 12:58

That first paragraph was someone else's post

madcatladyforever · 12/06/2020 13:01

Things I'm grateful for:

I have a job in the NHS and we're constantly so busy that we've had to hire 5 new graduates recently.

My cat.

My garden.

The fact I have so many hobbies I can do indoors I'm never really bored.

I bought my new house literally 2 weeks before lockdown and moved in.

Things I'm a bit miffed about:

I moved away from my entire family to an extremely rural area post divorce to take up this new job and find an affordable home.

I have lots of friends in this area but have not seen a single one of them because lockdown.

I cannot see my family as it's a four hour drive.

I had planned to explore the lovely county all summer: it's not going to happen now.

but it could have been sooo much worse, I have a good and well paid job that isn't going anywhere, nobody I know has died, I don't suffer from mental health problems, one summer stuck inside won't kill me, my cat had her 19th birthday and is still going strong, she finished her 2 week vets treatment in a veterinary hospital literally two weeks before they all shut and without that treatment she wouldn't still be alive.

I've got so much to be thankful for.

Annamaria14 · 12/06/2020 13:01

What is the worst thing is that people in relationships have absolutely no where to go. No where. There is no escape.

I live with a male flatmate and he are with each other now 24/7 and he has become rude and needy during lockdown. The feeling I have, of there being absolutely no where for me to go to by myself for a few hours , is really awful. That i have no freedom. This is imprisonment

ThisShitDontMatter · 12/06/2020 13:02

Same here OP. We are in Scotland and Nicola is dragging her feet. She depresses me. I am a bank nurse and I am OUT OF WORK!? How can that be? "Major Pandemic" even when I did have shifts in Covid Assessment - there was never any overwhelming amount of cases! They never report that on the news ever!

My childs head teacher said the kids will go back to school 2 days a week in August. This isnt good, as I am fulltime college or meant to be. I dont know where that is going now and also we dont know where we will be in 2 months time but Nicola seems sure it will still be all doom and gloom!
So basically we will pay full council tax that pays for education, teachers keep their jobs while loads lose theirs having to be at home for the other 3 days because Nicola S thinks employees should be "flexible" UGH!!!!!

Pasghetti · 12/06/2020 13:03

Some days it's fucking difficult but make gratitude a habit if you can. It will help protect your mental health. It is a difficult time no doubt about it but I give myself roughly one day a fortnight to feel a bit blue then give myself a kick up the arse. That said, I am healthy and have a garden and a family. But I really, really try to write or type at least three things a day to be grateful for, even on the shittiest days. It helps because it forces you to focus on the good stuff, even if it's just chips for dinner or the cat purring really loudly. It's a discipline, it's free and it's proven to help protect your well being.

2beautifulbabs · 12/06/2020 13:05

I am fed up I'm missing my family so much and because wales has the 5 mile rule I can't even see my family who are 200 miles away from me.

My DCs are missing their grandparents as are my parents missing their Grandchildren.

I also fail to see how on Earth I can tell my 15 month old and 3 year old that they can't hug my parents and brother when we are able to finally see them it's madness that I can literally be close to a stranger go to all these places that the plan to open back up zoos parks etc yet I still can't see my own family.

This needs to end now we can't continue to wrap everyone up in cotton wool it has to come down to doing your own risk assessments those who are happy to keep away from family and friends carry on those of us that want to be able to freely see our loved ones and friends crack on.

I am also frazzled now mental exhausted my DCs are pushing me over the edge some days my DH is working.

We are fortunate in some ways but as Pp have said this isn't living this is a miserable existence now.

Annamaria14 · 12/06/2020 13:05

We have had barely any deaths in Ireland. 1700. And yet we have been imprisoned for four months.

I honestly feel like suing the government for ruining four months of my life

Pasghetti · 12/06/2020 13:06

And before a lynch mob descends I'm not trying to be a Pollyanna. We have lost family in this time, we have lost thousands in earnings, struggled at times. The odd day I let myself really wallow. The rest of the time - I get my brain to focus on the things I can control, the things I can acknowledge. It gives me the courage and strength to keep going.

Marpan · 12/06/2020 13:08

I feel awful about it all. My sister will likely be made redundant, they headhunted her and she left a fabulous job at a smaller company to go there. Because this firm is big with fancy offices, there will be mass Redundancies soon.
It sucks.

Kljnmw3459 · 12/06/2020 13:08

I feel up and down. Today is a down day. Unable to get anything done at work because I can't have a quick chat with teammates and im constantly distracted by kids. Just feeling so crap about everything. I miss my family and friends like mad. I miss being efficient at work. I miss being productive at home, doing fun things with the kids. Now it's just me literally faffing about all day getting NOTHING done.

Annamaria14 · 12/06/2020 13:09

I have seen one MP saying that he knows that Governments will be questioned and held accountable after this.

There is a case for a legal argument. The IN declaration of human rights says that

"No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment."

Isolation is torture.
Not being allowed to see family is inhumane treatment

Mnthrowaway20202 · 12/06/2020 13:10

I miss work so much. WFH isn’t the same, there’s nothing to do atm and redundancies are being discussed. I practically feel unemployed with no real way to get another job right now, I feel trapped

Homemadeandfromscratch · 12/06/2020 13:10

I can't wait to be free. Sitting at home all day for four months is not normal

it's a choice (assuming you are in the UK obviously). No one asked you do sit at home all day. I haven't and I don't know anyone who has.

We are trying to stop a pandemic from destroying the economy and the country, we are not and never have been on house arrest, even when following the rules and guidelines to the letter.

Pasghetti · 12/06/2020 13:11

Me either homemade

Homemadeandfromscratch · 12/06/2020 13:12

Annamaria
"No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment."

I honestly do not think that exaggerating the situation to such a ridiculous point is helping you in any way. Even if you have had a VERY privileged and sheltered life so far, you cannot be serious Hmm

Annamaria14 · 12/06/2020 13:15

@Homemadeandfromscratch I am in Ireland.

I said sitting at home for four months is not normal. You said it is a choice

How is is a choice?
I have been told to work from home.
Restaurants, cafes, coffee shops, libraries are all closed. There is NOWHERE to go in and sit down
The weather here on the south coast of Ireland has been stormy for the last week . With severe wind and rain. So it is not possible to go for a walk.

So what on earth are you saying - it is my choice to stay at home?

Annamaria14 · 12/06/2020 13:17

@Homemadeandfromscratch you don't think isolation is inhumane? A friend rang me yesterday and told me he is completely suicidal from this imposed isolation.

EmeliaLily · 12/06/2020 13:19

i feel you ;( hoping we all pull through and create a better and more prosperous community after all of this

EmeliaLily · 12/06/2020 13:19

@Mnthrowaway20202

I miss work so much. WFH isn’t the same, there’s nothing to do atm and redundancies are being discussed. I practically feel unemployed with no real way to get another job right now, I feel trapped
This is too true
MarshaBradyo · 12/06/2020 13:19

AnnaMaria we have just put in place mixing households if you’re single, I’m guessing by what you wrote you don’t have that yet.

I agree with you it’s very hard to be alone and at least for all the criticism the government here did and have acknowledged this. Even at the beginning Whitty said it will be hard we need to remember this to inform timing.