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Mother in law lied about getting coldsores HELP

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Natashabobasha1 · 09/06/2020 06:00

Hello everyone. When my child was 4 months old I issued a blanket rule to both my own family and my husband's:no kissing my baby!
She's now 10 months old.Now I'm prepared to let people kiss the top of her head. But NO FACE KISSES!

Note: I don't care if someone gets coldsores, I just dont want my child to get them from caregivers.

My husband's family has a tendency of getting cold sores...very rarely..BUT his sister is affected very regularly...severely! Almost every week in the winter, and every time I see them, I scheme and plot to hold my baby and NOT pass her around since I've never had an open dialogue with her or his family about it. I feel stressed, sweaty and shaky whenever she's around my baby with an outbreak because of this.

In order to keep myself from losing my mind, I've told everyone via whatsapp message and in person not to kiss my baby. Nobody has ever kissed my baby's mouth. Ever.

My husband's sister kissed her on the forehead and had a cold sore coming when she was 4 months old. I spotted the redness and when I gently questioned her, almost whispering "you aren't getting a cold sore, are you?"
She said "no...why??? " and then her hand shot up to her mouth and she jumped back..then sat down...it was obvious she'd just forgotten she was getting one at the time.... but my husband's family doesn't talk about a lot of things directly, so it's that much harder for me....
The last time I saw her, that very same redness had turned into a very big cold sore.

I have explained to his incredulous parents that saliva can get into a baby's mucous membranes with or without an outbreak.

My MIL(mother-in-law)said her husband doesn't get them. She flat out lied. He does get them. HE even said so during that very same conversation. Then, this week, i video chatted with her and SHE HAD ONE. It made me so angry. But I didn't confront her. I took screenshots of her face like a crazy person.

She has reluctantly agreed to our request, but seems like his parents had no idea (and still don't believe) that it was even contagious and they say it's from stress and not a virus.

They've obviously UNknowingly infected their own children when they were young, as their adult kids have had cold sores since childhood (my husband says so). I don't want them infecting my child out of ignorance.

When I explained that I don't share utensils or cups with my baby because I could transmit bacteria that causes cavities, MIL(mother-in-law)said "oh, but it doesn't hurt" ...I said..."yes, it can cause cavities" ...she seemed to shrug it off.

Now I'm so paranoid that she'll feed my baby with her utensils out of spite or something ..or that FIL(father-in-law)will infect my baby during an outbreak due to absent mindedness.

They are passive people...passive aggressive nowadays....and very stubborn. When my husband told his dad not to stop by unnanounced and look in all the windows, he came over that very day and peered in all the windows and stopped by anyway.

(We live 300 meters away from them and they helped with the down payment...)

They've never been problematic before my child was born, but since having her, my requesting a bit of space (calling before visiting and not having them babysit because I'm not ready to leave her) seems to offend them.

Me trying to educatethem.aboutthings falls on incredulous ears. The fact that my MIL(mother-in-law)lied to me about not getting coldsores makes me really question her credibility and now I feel like I can't trust her!!! I hate lies and I have been so hurt in the past by.people lying to me. Now, I carry resentment towardsthem.for making me feel uncomfortablein.myown home and angry that I can't trust them.

How should I handle this? Should I tell her how I feel? Should I confront her? I feel like quitting my job and not returning to work as projected in 4 months' time. They are my only babysitters.

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PrettyTricky · 10/06/2020 14:58

I'm sorry op, but you're batshit crazy. If only we all had to little to worry about!

I've never had a cold sore in my life, by dc's dad had them a few times and I didn't kiss him when he had one (he is my ex so obviously no kissing now, and new DH has never been afflicted), but I didn't ever consider this as a problem with my child. If one was active surely an adult would know not to kiss a baby.
As for sharing utensils, please get a grip. All you're going to do is create a fearful and anxious child due to your own fears - that's far worse than any risk of bacteria or herpes is.
If I were you I would have a serious think about getting some counselling for your anxiety.

LizB62A · 10/06/2020 15:02

Maybe stick to the US sites then if you think it's just your wording that makes us think YABU

FFS

Blownaway1 · 10/06/2020 15:20

OP is your baby walking? Sorry if I’ve missed whether she is or not. Once she’s running around she’s going to put all sorts of stuff in her mouth, I’m not sure how you’ll stop that.
With regards the lying I just wouldn’t leave her with them. Visits with you present yes, babysitting - no. So for me there would be two choices. Quit my job to stay at home with her until preschool or send her to nursery.
That said I can’t imagine never even kissing my DC on their faces Sad

Franticbutterfly · 10/06/2020 15:33

I agree with no kissing on the mouth (although my ILs do kiss my lot on the mouth, and my MIL gets cold sores, although has never passed them to them), and I don't see why anyone would need to put their fork/spoon in a child's mouth. But I am worried that this is upsetting you so much. I would say it's best to tell them these things are not to happen, and leave it at that. Part of being a parent is knowing that no matter how hard you may try, you cannot control everything that happens to them. Also IL's are a law unto themselves.

ImInYourMindFuzz · 10/06/2020 16:11

You don’t let your husband kiss his own child but you don’t use soap and let the kid put car keys (some of the most germ ridden objects ever) in its mouth? Jesus Christ love.

Natashabobasha1 · 10/06/2020 16:58

Um... I work with kids...of all ages. I know what goes on in nurseries. Thanks...

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Natashabobasha1 · 10/06/2020 17:21

Ok I'm slowly backing away from this thread. It's taken on a very weird life of it's own...

...umm...use common sense, people!

I'm sorry I've touched a deep nerve for some people. Oops! At this point, no matter what I say, my works will be twisted against me by certain mumsnetters out for OP blood... You guys won't be satisfied with any answer. I'll just be painted as "bonkers".... "She's mad! Burn herrrr!" "Get herrrr!" "OP needs to sufferrr. She's not sounding beaten by us keyboard warriorssss!" "Grrrrrrrr" (cue frothing mouths)

Anyway....

Sincerely, though:

My heart goes out to the people affected very negatively by herpes through no fault of their own. If you wade through the posts, you'll see there are many women who have been negatively affected by other people's ignorance.

Have a nice day or night whereveer you may be. And let's not be so hard on ourselves or eachother. We've all just got to do our best.

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pictish · 10/06/2020 17:31

Ok thanks.

Ninkanink · 10/06/2020 17:32
Hmm
2007Millie · 10/06/2020 19:13

Chances are OP you probably have herpes, there is a significantly more chance you have it than you don't.

But you're one of those people who calls everyone else crazy, when in fact, you're the crazy one

justjessie · 10/06/2020 19:17

This thread was a ride from start to finish. Especially the

Get herrrr burn herrrr grrrr frothing at the mouth gahhhh

Omg OP Grin

Ohtherewearethen · 10/06/2020 19:48

Yeah, I think we all should have taken notice of your post back on page 1 about your writing style appearing insane in Mumsnet. But here we are, 19 pages later, having been accused of being herpes-ridden child abusers who want to snog our children and force filthy cutlery into their mouths, sentencing them to a life of tooth decay and gum disease; educated on how to raise our own children by a woman who has been eco breastfeeding for 10 months, straps her baby to her all day and doesn't let her play on the floor except with lettuce leaves and doesn't panic when she licks her keys. Well, I think you've put us all in our place here, Natasha, you can step slowly away from this feeling even more righteous and smug than you already did.

Ninkanink · 10/06/2020 19:53

Misguidedly righteous and smug, that is.

Wearywithteens · 10/06/2020 20:03

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Frankola · 10/06/2020 21:03

When my daughter was born I developed PNA (post natal anxiety). She was about 8 months old before it began to impact on our lives to an extent I sought help.

My symptoms included total meltdowns and mistrust of family and friends over things I felt could harm my baby, including cold sores.

This also led to obsessive compulsive cleaning habits of her bottles and other baby equipment.

Ironically all the stress and upset caused me to get cold sores and I would refuse to hold my baby for long periods in case I infected her.

Your behaviour sounds incredibly similar to this. This anxiety and obsession is starting to take over your life and affect your relationships with others.

You need to speak to a Dr. Please, they can really help.

WaterOffADucksCrack · 10/06/2020 22:02

I'm sorry I've touched a deep nerve for some people. Oops! Have you? All I've seen is you having a meltdown because people have dared to disagree 😂

And let's not be so hard on ourselves or eachother Apart from if it concerns inlaws or accusing people of snogging their babies!

WaterOffADucksCrack · 10/06/2020 22:03

Sizedoesmatter Legit have no idea what you're going on about but crack on darling 😂

Natashabobasha1 · 10/06/2020 22:48

Hey @Frankola!

Your experience sounds terrible. I'm happy you found a way out of that...

As far as I can tell, my angst comes from living too close to the in-laws who are not respectful of my boundaries and who deny having coldsores, deny it being contagious and who have infected my husband and his sister. If I can't trust them on this, I won't be able to let them be alone with my child. This is the crux of it, I'm afraid.

I'm not cleaning obsessively or crying or melting down. In fact, I've lived with my own extended family during covid (4 months)...and besides what I've outlined here with the in-laws, I have had zero feelings of anxiety. And I mean ZERO.... Which is ironic, because it's the covid era.

You raise valid points, though...

The other posters seem to be a bit too invested in this thread....

OP posts:
CuppaZa · 10/06/2020 22:48

As a PP said, you are very, very likely to have herpes yourself OP.

Time2change2 · 10/06/2020 22:58

So hang on.. has anyone actually kissed your child on the face or mouth with an active cold sore?

2007Millie · 10/06/2020 23:18

Oh no, you're back.

eatsleepread · 10/06/2020 23:24

You are such hard work, I don't even know where to start.

eatsleepread · 10/06/2020 23:25

I'm cringing for you, honestly.

zaffa · 10/06/2020 23:30

I think the utensil thing is a bit OTT but the cold sore thing is so reasonable. The cold sore virus can kill babies - why on earth would anyone suggest you are being unreasonable to avoid that risk?

Either way, you and your in laws are not on the same page and will most likely end up with terrible conflicts if you ask them to provide child care for you.

My DD is six months old and MIL will do two days child care when I go back to work - because I love her and she accepts that I'm often very PFB about my gorgeous DD I accept that when DD is in her care she will find her own way of doing things with her and it will only cause grief for us both if I try to manage that or lay down rules. BUT I am absolutely confident that she will always act with my daughters best interests at heart so I can accept the risk that she will do things differently to me. If you can't say the same then find paid for childcare because it will be a disaster.

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