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AIBU to break up their wedding (*trigger:abuse)?

147 replies

alicejen · 08/06/2020 17:58

OK I am kind of joking but not...

My best friend (BF) I've known for 5 years now. I am her maid of honour. Her fiancé is VERY controlling. I'll give some quick examples: every weekend MUST be spent together, he doesn't like her seeing her friends by herself (e.g. girls nights), he fakes being sick so she can't go to her friends and has to come home, he picks her up from her sporting event with our company and watches (no one else does - it's weird), when she's at work dinners if she doesn't respond in a certain time frame then he will call the restaurant to get hold of her, she isn't allowed abroad without him, my hen-do is abroad and he said he will go and stay in a different hotel to us to keep an eye out (!!!!!), he has gone on other hen dos (stayed in the neighbouring hotel/room and dropped her there and picked her up), if I meet her for dinner he will text me to make sure it's not a cover up and always calls her when she is meant to be there, if she doesn't respond in time he will text me and ask me to send him her calendar (we used to work together), at work events he texts asking her to check in every half hour and I'm usually asked to remind her to text him....
and if you don't see how awful he is, he has also said he didn't have sex with his first girlfriend because she was poor and he didn't want her to get pregnant to use him for money/trap him (they met at a top university - she is still not pregnant to this day and has a good job). His family still send her facebook pictures in the family group chat to make fun of how fat she is.

So my BF was meant to get married this year but COVID...this meant the hen was also delayed. So me and her other good friend organised a virtual hen do. On the game we played answers the fiance gave to one of the games and he was HORRID in them. In all fairness, he says these things in real life, he always puts her down and it was the reason I hated him when I first met him before I learned of his controlling behaviour. However, BF was very embarrassed. We hadn't watched the videos before playing them in the call because we were also playing the game. She confronted her fiance who told her that everything he said he was told to say by me/the other girl. She believes him.
She doesn't blame me and isn't angry but says to make sure it doesn't happen again and it upset her. She says she believes him 100%.

I feel super manipulated. He doesn't like me as I like going out with my own friends, I am not controlled by my fiance, I like to go on girls holidays and I believe in having a separate life. He also hates the other girl for the same reason.

What would you do? Something that hit me recently was my mum - she said this is how it starts and one day he will become physical - is this true?
She seems happy despite the control, I think she sees it as a sign of love?

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overnightangel · 08/06/2020 21:37

If you really are this person’s friend you will have nothing to do with the wedding and tell her it’s because you can’t be complicit in her marrying a controlling abuse piece of shit

Rewis · 08/06/2020 21:47

Sounds like my best friend and her husband. Except he thought I was the trustworthy friend. Oddly enough his behaviour calmed down after they got married. But I still don't trust him. She is my best friend and I will support her, even if her hsuabnd is a twat.

She will marry him, no matter what. I'd tell her my concerns. It won't make a difference but at least you have warned her. I'd go to the wedding and be the MOH to support my best friend and be there when it all falls apart.

XingMing · 08/06/2020 21:52

I appreciate where you are coming from @overnightangel, but don't you think it would be gentler to leave the friendship ready to resume? When it's needed, as it probably will be.

Cornishclio · 08/06/2020 21:56

He sounds extremely controlling and I would be concerned for your friend too. I would certainly voice your concerns and back out of being maid of honour and refuse to get involved in any more texting him re her whereabouts etc. You are effectively condoning it by doing that and accepting it as normal behaviour, which it is not. Let your friend know you are there to support her but cannot carry on supporting her fiances obsessive behaviour. Many insecure people like this sort of obsessive behaviour about where their partner is and not allowing them to see friends etc and as you say see it is as love, when in fact it is controlling behaviour. Given her mums alcoholism that is not surprising. I also think your mum is right and eventually this will tip over into physical abuse.

Rosebel · 08/06/2020 22:08

It's a horrible situation but you telling her that won't change things. My sister is in this situation to the extent I had to send my wedding invitation for her to my parents house so he couldn't turn up and spoil the day. Same as we had to do for my parents wedding anniversary. My sister realises now her husband is a controlling bully (and yes he's violent not just to her either) but feels trapped.
We all tried to warn her, even his own brother and husband's boss but she wouldn't listen. Has basically wasted 25 years on him but won't leave him.
So yes tell her but more importantly if she doesn't listen please make sure you're there for her. Don't forget about her, don't let him win. Keep making sure she knows you're there for her.

Thinkingabout1t · 08/06/2020 22:09

What a nightmare. You sound like a good friend so I hope you can help her. Sadly, I think she will probably go ahead with the wedding and have a miserable marriage. I hope you can stay friends with her and eventually help her escape.

Bleepbloopblarp · 08/06/2020 22:31

I think you can say whatever you like but there’s no way she’ll call off the wedding on her friends advice. If she’s already believing his lies over her two bf’s and putting up with all his controlling behaviour she’s probably too far gone (she probably thinks it means he’s madly in love with her).

Just be there for her when it all goes tits up.

StatementKnickers · 08/06/2020 22:31

This is awful. Could you do a Clare's Law search on him? He might have form for abusive behaviour.

www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/daa/domestic-abuse/alpha/request-information-under-clares-law/

Coughsyrupsucks · 08/06/2020 22:31

My childhood best friend ended up with a similar type of man. I made the mistake of saying something and I didn’t see her again until she turned up on my doorstep 10 years later with her two daughters.

They stayed for 3 days, didn’t say a word about him she just changed the subject when I bought him up, I didn’t want to push it as I was so pleased to see her and the girls. We just laughed like the old days and chatted about everything else under the sun. When she left, I thought it was to go to her Mum’s, but she went back to him, and it’s been 13 years and I’ve never heard from her again.

Stay quiet and be there for her, when she does need to leave and accept sometimes there is nothing you can do other than that. I still hope one day my friend will show up again.

alicejen · 08/06/2020 22:45

@statementknickers she's 26 and been with him since 20, they're the same age. She's his first actual girlfriend - so definitely no priors.

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alicejen · 08/06/2020 22:47

I forgot to add - he has none of his own friends.
His groomsmen are the boyfriends of her friends and his brother.

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LovePoppy · 08/06/2020 22:49

I would confront her on believing him about the video.

I’d be so incredibly hurt.

alicejen · 08/06/2020 22:49

I'm reading all your messages and realising it's worse than I thought.

He already stops her wearing anything revealing. He said in our hen that revealing items were his least favourite thing but he has successfully "phased them out"

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LovePoppy · 08/06/2020 22:49

Also, please tell me you never sent him her calendar!

Sarahandco · 08/06/2020 22:50

As someone said, once they are married he won't allow her to be your friend anymore, so you have nothing to lose in laying out the facts to her that he is controlling her and that it will only get worse.

alicejen · 08/06/2020 22:50

@lovepoppy no! I'd always message her and her what she wants me to respond! I'd happily cover for her whatever she's doing.

She was at work in meetings every time. I no longer work there so he has never messaged me since.

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Soontobe60 · 08/06/2020 22:55

This is coercive and controlling to say the least.
Send her this www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk/What-is-abuse

backseatcookers · 08/06/2020 22:56

He will 100% cut you out after the wedding, OP, because you're probably the number 1 threat to his control of her. So you have little to lose by telling her how you feel now. Stress that you will be there for her if she ever wants your help, even if it's a decade from now. Be prepared for a very negative reaction. You are being a true friend, but she won't see it the way now.

This is so true. He'll tell her you're negative, have always been against 'them', you're a bad influence etc...

Ugh poor you, it's awful to watch isn't it. Gave me chills reading your post.

LovePoppy · 08/06/2020 22:59

@alicejen

Good for you. She’s lucky to have you

B1rdbra1n · 08/06/2020 23:17

her dad is very wealthy
that'll be what attracted him to her
agree with pps, she wont listen, if you want to save her you'll need to say very little but look out for the moment she is ready to drink and then you can 'lead the horse to water'

MadameMeursault · 08/06/2020 23:56

You have to do something OP. So hard to know what. Tell her parents? Tell her? Show her this thread? Good luck

WiddlinDiddlin · 09/06/2020 00:17

I;d tell her my concerns, via email... i would also tell her what I predict he will do...

He's going to cut you out, say you are jealous, say you really hate her and aren't her friend, possibly invent nasty comments he'll tell her you made about her, tell her you don't know what real love looks like..... any or all of those things!

Hopefully when he does indeed do those things, she will start to realise.

I did this with my friend, 5 years later she came back to me having managed to divorce him. Everything I said had happened, she said it was if I'd had a crystal ball!

Thelnebriati · 09/06/2020 00:42

Google his name plus ''charged'' or ''convicted'' and see if anything comes up.

snitzelvoncrumb · 09/06/2020 02:35

That is such an awful situation to be in. I was in an abusive relationship like your friend years ago. It didn't become physical. It was very similar to what you described, I too had a lovely best friend like you who did all she could to help me, as it's easier for someone else to see how abusive it is. The abuse would have slowly got worse over time, and your friend would have been brainwashed along with it so she may genuinely see this as because he loves her and not see it as abuse. My advice is don't try to break up the wedding, sit her down and ask her how she feels, is she happy? Let her know that you are always here for her then let it go. She isn't ready to leave, and if you push her to leave she will tell her fiance and he will make it difficult for you to see each other, he will make you out to be the bad guy. If you want to stay in her life be his friend too, invite them both things so you can see her. I know right now you think you need to save her, but what will likely happen is she will just cut you out her life, because he will make you the enemy. In time she will see him for what he is, then it's time to get her out, but for now just be there for her.

TehBewilderness · 09/06/2020 03:11

Be aware that he will try to alienate you and the most important thing you can do is to let here know you will be there for her.
Give her this link
archive.org/stream/LundyWhyDoesHeDoThat/Lundy_Why-does-he-do-that_djvu.txt

She's going to need it.