You're white you haven't experienced racism 4

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Again, by giving ALL the historical examples of racism and injustice across time and space, which NOONE is denying exist, posters on this thread are changing the subject and not getting into the nitty gritty of our own time and place. Our history has got us here, and HERE, right now, we have racism in the UK and USA based particularly on dark skin and other visible evidence in a person's hair and features that identifies them as having African ancestry.

That ancestry above all others in penalized in our society.

Are you going to talk about that, and stay on topic?

I can't think of a clearer way to put it, Wishingstarr.

Well said.

Wishing star,
The thread topic is “You’re white, you haven’t experienced racism” (see title)

Not “You’re black, you are experiencing the worse racism” (which no one denies.)

I’m happy to talk about that topic too, but am baffled by your misguided thread policing?

Are you really baffled?

Do you really think it's "policing" to suggest you know exactly what the context of this topic is?

From slavery to Windrush, my family's full story.

1919 the 1 million black, indian and asian troops who fought for the allies in WW1

My number should have been more than 4million. Apologies.

[quote Wishingstarr]1919 the 1 million black, indian and asian troops who fought for the allies in WW1

[/quote] This is not news. I am many others were doing public exhibitions in museums and libraries about this in 2004.Oral history interviews were collected from veterns from India and the Carribean at least 15 years ago. . This is why the attacks on the cenotaph are so offensive. Those men, black and white , deserve I our respect.

Placemarked .

*Again, by giving ALL the historical examples of racism and injustice across time and space, which NOONE is denying exist, posters on this thread are changing the subject and not getting into the nitty gritty of our own time and place. Our history has got us here, and HERE, right now, we have racism in the UK and USA based particularly on dark skin and other visible evidence in a person's hair and features that identifies them as having African ancestry.

That ancestry above all others in penalized in our society.

Are you going to talk about that, and stay on topic?*

This.
You'll notice the posters are the same ones on every thread switching it to white people.
They want to uphold thd power the have. A level playing field frightens them.

You can move on all you like Kitty.

The rest of us are going to roll out the tin foil road for you.

Make sure you have a "race card" because you may need it along the way.

@Siameasy
It's a good read. There's a lot of articles it links to which are particularly interesting.
The darker your skin the easier it is for the white supremacists to oppress you. Take black people out of the equation and Asians take their place. Take all races bar white out of the equation and white people oppress the less white. Key being, white people are always the suppressors.

@GlendaSugarbeanIsJudgingYou
She doesn't need the race card because she isn't crying and I apparently am.
But it's OK, black people should get over it and move on!

It shouldn't be news but if the young black adults in this report had no knowledge of this history that means it was not being taught even 10 years ago or less.

The fact that Sikhs were considered "noble" enough to march while others were not, shows how White Supremacy overruled even at the end of "The War to End all Wars" the fact that black men had risked their lives for the Empire. The ideology had to be reinforced that the superiority of white men won the war. The end.

As we know African Americans after being welcomed by civilians in France returned to Jim Crow. They were attacked in the street when in uniform and some were lynched. This was not just in the South.

Eugenics was hugely influential and popular at this time. Universities in the USA had Eugenics departments and Margaret Sanger was promoting sterilization of "inferior" women.

Whilst white people hold the power and priveledge i rekon they can be victims of racism but not to the same extent.
I went on an eco expedition to the Carribean and whilst driving our car was surrounded by locals chanting " white boy, white boy." I wasn't offended tbh...more alarmed but arguably it was racist.

Key being, white people are always the suppressors.

Only if you ignore the many examples I listed that do not fit your narrative/ bias against white people.

By the way OP,
We can tell when you have written “Message deleted by MNHQ. Quotes deleted post” versus when MNHQ does it. So I’m not sure why you’re doing random posts with that sentence? Could you explain?

I tried to join the conversation but my post was deleted. I used two words that probably weren’t acceptable to be written in full so maybe I should of filled those words in with ‘’. I believe I had seen one of these words written in full on an earlier thread so presumed it was being allowed.

Anyway, sorry if that offended anyone but I didn’t see the need to gloss over what I saw and heard when I lived in another community in the UK. The debate on here has been full on at times!

Anyway my point was that racism was definitely more rife in this town than it was in my hometown and as a white person coming from a town where I went to school/college with people of all ethnicities and was certainly raised to treat all as an equal, I found it quite shocking!

@Wishingstarr

Are you really baffled?

Do you really think it's "policing" to suggest you know exactly what the context of this topic is?

Yes I am. Why is it a thread that clearly states we are to talk about white people and whether they can experience racism being derailed to talk about black people and their experience of racism? Derailed to the point that you feel the need to “police” those of us talking about the original subject given in the title.

There is no fucking “context” that naturally has a reader conclude a thread about white people is really supposed to be about black people. Why black people? Why not my people? The world is more than white people and black people. In fact there are more Asian-Chinese ethnic people than any other race in the world.

Of course there's context.

You can't possibly read this thread or any of the others and not realise that this is about black people.

Do you watch the news? Do you read social media?

If you have access to any of these you absolutely know what these threads are supposed to be about.

By the way OP,
We can tell when you have written “Message deleted by MNHQ. Quotes deleted post” versus when MNHQ does it. So I’m not sure why you’re doing random posts with that sentence? Could you explain?

What specifically makes you think OP is doing this @PlanDeRaccordement? I don't think this is the case and wonder why you think it is?

which NOONE is denying exist, posters on this thread are changing the subject and not getting into the nitty gritty of our own time and place.

I think if you read the full threads OP does not take kindly to saying that other racism exists. In fact every time someone has said I have experienced racism as a white person or even Asian person they get told no that isn't racism.
Unfortunately the thread title reads that it will be a debate on whether white people face racism, not everyone who is commenting on the thread now has read the first 3 threads to figure out that OP didn't mean this title to be a debate at all despite framing it as one and posting on AIBU.
OP had support once she had explained herself properly which if you read the first thread she had to do as people were confused regarding the title but she has again and again said that anyone who is white, Asian or even mixed race cannot experience racism which is why people are annoyed and keep going on.
We are all aware of what is happening in the world at the moment but saying that only (by OPs definition) very dark skin colours face racism is factually wrong. She has been given personal stories, she has been given facts but gets aggressive if these are mentioned and encourages others to push them off the threads.
Quite simply why post in AIBU with a thread title like this if actually this isn't a discussion at all.

Just to reiterate, I as a white person, have found these threads very informative, and it has educated me a lot, thank you OP.

The amount of whataboutery is incredible and I'm saying that as a FWR poster so normally aren't surprised by that! The motivation for the whataboutery is so clear to so many of us it's probably having the very opposite effect that you have intended...