Rant alert! How do those who want Lockdown to continue justify the suffering of everyone else?

[Thefrenchbaguette]

My 3 month old has been waiting for a hip scan to confirm her rather obvious DDH. She needs a harness, the GP already confirmed she will need one and put in an urgent referral at her 6 week review and still nothing because they're not doing them at all here! You can only use a harness up until 6 months and after that the treatment for DDH is an operation! My baby is going to have to have a completely unavoidable operation or suffer lifelong damage to her hips because the NHS is just not interested in anyone who doesn't have Covid19! There isn't even the option to pay for it to be done privately! I am furious and so sick of seeing countless threads and comments about how lockdown needs to be continued and even stricter! All very well with your comfortable house and perfectly secure income and no real risk to your overall well-being but what about everyone else who is suffering?!
A friend had an abnormal smear come back in January but the follow up has been indefinitely postponed! How many people are going to miss life saving diagnosis', life saving treatments! It's disgusting and I feel so unbelievably angry at what this country has come through so 90% of people can avoid getting what is essentially a bad cold!

@ArnoldBee

It's been said for quite sometime that there are concerns about other conditions not being dealt with. Yes your daughter could have been dealt with but if you had died from Covid due to attending her appointment would it have been worth it?

I don't know whether to laugh or be horrified do you think it lurks everywhere waiting for you??

One was a baby that died because of strangulation of the ambilical cord, died 3 weeks later, one was a 5 year old who was seriously ill, from birth in an out of hospital, doesn’t say what health coditions. One was a 9 month old that dyed from the rare syndrome. 14 year old boy died from rare syndrome, he was very over weight. Not sure of the 5th child.

Will be ages before the long term health effects of having COVID will be known.

I can understand you are worried about your daughter, but she’s not going to die without a harness at the moment. If it was life or death they would do it now. Puts things in perspective. I want the lockdown to continue and I’m waiting for surgery, but this virus is more of a killer right now.

So how can you say a vast majority will have long lasting health conditions? We need to see some data.

Plus so many medical staff have been deployed elsewhere to help fight covid so there aren’t any staff in some areas. Shows how desperate the NHS are. Intensive care units double and triple in size, so many staff needed and even then still struggling for staff.

How incredibly crass, ignorant and disgusting of you OP. Tell the families of the 40,000 people that have died that it’s a bad cold. Tell the thousands of families living with the aftermath of the virus that it’s a bad cold. Is your kid going to die of a displaced hip. No she’s not. I hope your appalling thread gets deleted.

Also if it's just a bad cold can you please inform my hospital manager because at the moment we are going into fourth month of no annual leave and cross covering many more patients at once as well as many of my colleagues doing 24 hr covid on calls.
That's really overkill for patients with mild colds isn't it? We should all just take a few days off and stop worrying our silly heads about this virus !!

Will be ages before the long term health effects of having COVID will be known.

It willl also be ages before we know the long term health effects of lock down and stopping all other treatments.

I don't want all the restrictions to continue, just some of them, and I want those that remain to be enforced.

I was astonished on Tuesday to get a letter detailing an appointment for an outpatient clinic for yesterday.
Absolutely non urgent... could easily wait until next year or even the year after ...
I really didn’t expect to be seen until after all of this was over .
Anyway off I went to the large city hospital.. I was the solitary patient in the department.
Easily 12 staff members there , doc , trainee doc , receptionist, person to point out the hand sanitizer, person to point to the mask 😷, etc ...
unbelievable..
There seems to be inconsistencies throughout different regions as to what health matters should be attended to .

As others have said Covid is not a bad cold

Shocked by a lot of the responses on here. Of course OP is going to be upset that her baby may have to have an operation that could’ve been avoided in normal circumstances. Who wouldn’t be? It’s awful some of the medical conditions that are not being dealt with currently. I don’t have any answers on what could’ve been/should be done differently.. I don’t think any of us can say for sure whether the balance has been struck correctly or gone too far.. perhaps that will come in time with the benefit of hindsight and more information. But I have huge sympathy for OP, her baby and anyone else who is having to wait for important medical intervention. The effects of this pandemic are far reaching for sure and it’s really hard for so many in so many different ways. As so often on MN these days, I am flabbergasted at the amount of people incapable of empathy and who take such a black and white approach to things.. if you are not actually dying then you have nothing to be upset about?? Silly twerps!

Tell the families of the 40,000 people that have died that it’s a bad cold

We don't need to be told thanks, we already know. We also, as I have said many,many times before (on this thread and others), don't need anyone to tell us how we should feel.
The OP is doing what every parent should be doing and that's putting her child first. I do not take offence at that, why would I? Why would you?

@Alex50 did you get the information about the children from the same site you got your graph ? If so does it mention what the underlying conditions were in the adults ?
I am not keen on the term underlying conditions because it is so vague, does it mean diabetes or eczema or hypothyroidism ?, all are underlying conditions after all.

If you opened a bag of skittles and we're told 1% of them were poisoned, would you still eat the bag and hope you didn't eat the poisonous one?
No, so why would you do that with your life?

What a crap analogy. Presumably in 'normal' times you leave the house, cross the road, hell you might even drive a car. All have risks, especially driving a car, statistically quite a big risk! Presumably you don't not do those things because it's 'too risky'. But even just living your life you are eating the bag the skittles.

This is why I'm puzzled at parents not sending their healthy children into school because 'it's not safe'. Statistically, their child is far more likely to get seriously injured or die whilst coming to or from school, than catching Covid at school. I know that's not the only factor involved in not sending kids back, but that is the reason that some people use.

Also, a healthy person does not have a 1 in 100 chance of dying of Covid.

I agree with this and think some are suffering anxiety which can manifest in pain throughout the body but convince themselves they have covid for weeks and weeks or months on end....

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There was a lady on BBC radio this morning insisting she's been ill for 13 weeks from covid as it moves around attacking different parts of her body. Went into detail about each body part affected. She sounded under 50 & had a child under 18 so she wasn't elderly. Then she said every hospital test she had came back "normal"... I couldn't help but think "anxiety not covid". But no presenter was going to challenge her or even comment on the obvious "gosh that sounds exceptional!". Anecdote wins yet again. "

Indeed anecdotal 'evidence' seems to trump actual research findings lots on social media... just because Karen had in in December .... or Karen's mate has had it for 3 months (despite negative tests) ... it must be true...

20% of deaths from Covid have been caused by going into hospital for something else and catching it through hospital transmission. The NHS has never been able to get infection and super bugs under control. Of course OP doesn't want her baby to have an unnecessary operation.

AlternativePerspective

Thank you for your matter of fact post. Sending best wishes and hope that you get the treatment you need as quickly as possible.

Often the ones with the least to fear from covid-19 worry the most and dictate/rant to the rest of us (some of whom are much more vulnerable) what we should and should not do. Some have become so consumed with fear they want everyone else to lose perspective and join in with their fear and get annoyed when we try to rationalise and attempt to keep the risk in perspective... usually just ranting at us that 'people will die'.... those are the ones doing the most damage IMO

Babbi - that was for your protection. Not because they don't have other pts to see.

People keep spouting the ‘40,000’ families grieving thing. A great many of those 40,000 were incredibly elderly. Of course it is still sad for them and their families. But why has very elderly people dying become so unacceptable? It’s a fact of life! I genuinely don’t understand. Why is someone dying in their 90s a tragedy and why is their family deep in grief? All of my grandparents died in their 70s. They were loved and are still missed today, there were tears and they were mourned but I don’t think anyone in my family considered it a ‘tragedy’. People have become hysterical and lost all perspective. I feel so sorry for the children And young people of today, they are getting a raw deal on so many levels.

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@Lesserspottedmama totally agree

@frumpety there is a graph somewhere, I can’t find it at the moment. The highest underlying condition was dementia, then I think it was diabetes, Asthma was very low, heart condition was high but can’t remember the %, hypertension wasn’t a very high percentage. Over 50% were men.

I really don’t understand this - I have an mri due for a non urgent issue and they are asking me to go in for it. I assumed so they would not fall behind with scans. I am sorry you need to push the doctors more. My daughter had that scan. I know you shouldn’t have to but the A&Es are not as busy - worth popping into one over a weekend?

Do you have a link for that statistic @MsSafina ?